Redpill me on Brandon Sanderson.Are his books worth reading? Is he woke?
genre slop, no
>>24686778There’s too many smutty scenes for my liking. Guy’s a coomer
>>24687157Fpbp, his stormlight series starts off fairly strong but has turned into fanfiction level writing book 3 onwards
>>24686778He's hated because he's popular. The man is no genius but I've enjoyed what I've read by him.
The most curious thing about him is that he's so well known as a prolific fantasy author, maybe even the most successful alive, yet his work seems to have little or no cultural impact.
Redpill me on pounding my balls with a hammer. Is it worth doing? Is it woke?
>>24687787mormon mafia promote him to spread mormonism
>>24687986trvke, guy is the mitt romney of fantasy slop
>>24686778only patricians who can read deeply and appreciate worldbuilding can
>>24687986>>24688006I’ve only read Elantris which was terrible and also an incredibly thinly veiled Christian allegory. Are they all like that?
>>24688292No. I only read Mistborn, then later Elantris. His writing improved and the only thing that made it obvious that he's a Christian is that his sexual content is always PG-13
>>24687986That's right. It was the same with McCarthy's "Border Trilogy". Mexican tourist board bankrolled the whole series. They set the whole thing up. To get more gringos to go South, whoring and drinking. And it worked. It went off without a hitch.
>>24688292No, his recent stormlight archives books are genuinely fucking slop. Book 4 just lazily gives random characters mental illnesses so one of the few interesting characters suddenly gets depressed and whines over and over and over for like 400 pages till something actually happens with him at the end of the book. Then he becomes a therapist for no reason. Book 5 is unironically what people would call woke. It does a lot of random shit like introduce transexuals into the world for literally no reason or impact. It uses the visions dalinar, who is arguably the protagonist of the first 5 books, gets as he’s about to die to make him watch his autistic loser son suck some crab man penis. Not fucking joking.At absolute best Sanderson just writes fucking slop yet he’s considered the best of the current age which is frankly a fucking indictment of modern writers
>>24688292>thinly veiled Christian allegoryYou didn't read the book.
>>24687252Loreslop is fun because it's like collecting little individual trivia for the whole novel. You don't have to integrate your understanding, you just learn that there is a Council of the Four, a Knights of the Seven Chalices, the Desolation Field—the appeal derives from the same compulsion as the 40K autist's need to consume 800 wiki articles. It's collectible, pre-packaged, and completely separable. Not to say that it isn't /fun/.
>>24686778Rock solid magic systems>Never makes up magic rules then breaks them later>Obviously played a lot of D&D>Power levels feel strong but have well defined limitationsServiceable story and characters >Manages ensemble of characters well>Dynamic characters have meaningful growth>Static characters compliment the world, support main charactersSatisfying>Wraps up story threads without glaring plotholes>Characters get satisfying arcs>Actually finishes and releases books, literally constantlyReading Sanderson is like eating a Chipotle burrito. There's a lot better out there, but there's a lot worse and it's good for the price. It's reliable, it's the same thing every time but the filling might change a little. Occasionally you get a chewy piece of meat in your burrito but you just kind of deal with it and keep eating; maybe you don't come back for a while but you know when you do come back it will be pretty good, all things considered.If you have a bunch of shit you really want to read then by all means go knock out your reading list. But if you're looking for something to read, Sanderson is a safe option.
>>24688331Pretty sure I did. “Lord Spirit”, a prince who “comes back from the dead”, brings hope, magic and the promise of new life to people who have given up hope
>>24688354Yeah, you definitely didn't read the book. If you had then you would know he never promises them a new life and does everything he can to not be treated as a messiah.
>>24688384>new lifeHe brings back the ancient magic of the god like people. He returns agriculture, stops crime, and gets people to be self sufficient rather than rely on charity. It’s a new way of life/ a metaphor. Also, he’s pretty much literally the messiah
>>24688395Do you just think every hero is a Christ allegory? The book is just magic zombies (which the author has even stated to be the case) so no shit there's rebirth themes.
>>24688405No, but when that hero is a secret prince calling himself Lord Spirit who returns magic, vitality, and hope to a downtrodden population I fail to see how this is even controversial. Frankly I’d much rather rather talk about how much I hated the princess and magical FaceTime, and thought Sanderson’s barely hidden commentaries on Chinese food being greasy were odd if I have to waste anymore time thinking about this terrible book
>>24688325Truth, same group funded Bolano's 2666 for the same reason.
>>24688330> uses the visions dalinar, who is arguably the protagonist of the first 5 books, gets as he’s about to die to make him watch his autistic loser son suck some crab man penis. Not fucking joking.…pardon?
>>24688554A part of his dying visions are dedicated to watching his son suck cock yes. He also does by getting hit in the head by a random rock
>>24688566Dies fuck
>>24686778I have not read anything of him neither. Mostly because his sagas are too long. It's Mistborn worth reading?
>>24687179AWOOOGAA I will now read your fantasy slop
>>24688458>Chinese foodActually schizophrenic.
>>24688615“Jindoese” food which you eat with “Maipon” sticks. Which consists of greasy noodles.
>>24688594Yes. You can read Mistborn 1 and if you don't like it you can stop there, the story is at a great stopping point there.
>>24688638The fact you even remember something as trivial as that indicates you're either just pretending to hate the book or are mentally ill and letting it live rent free.
>>24687225This. I liked the first book and hate-listened most of the rest while commuting. Not worth it unless you're a particularly stupid woman.
>>24688330>>24688566He did say he leans left, so no surprises:https://youtu.be/SjefQl0P9-Q
>>24688330It's worth mentioning that he uses the words "therapist" and "therapy" repeatedly in character. I actually LMAOed when I read it. It's straight up just slop fine tuned for retarded women who grew up on Tumblr. >>24688554One of the female characters also "squees" when they (gay son and gay crab alien) kiss. It's so bad lol.
I started reading the Stormlight Archive today over ASOIAF because there's a higher chance that he'll actually finish it. 75 pages in and I like it so far.
>>24689978Have fun but the first book is by far the bestAnd yeah fuck fatman martin
>>24686778It's just your typical boring D&D session in book form. And yeah, very woke.
>>24688458>Sanderson’s barely hidden commentaries on Chinese food being greasy were oddI mean it's greasy as shit? I get a diarrhea after almost every time.
>>24688330>>24689900There's therapy in D&D world?
>>24689567Your responses indicate low reading comprehension
>>24690044There is now! It's even essential to the final battle iirc. The more I remember the more retarded it gets.
>>24690099Who performs it? Is it magic?
>>24690045Ironic.
>>24690102The main character upon being tutored in it by another character who can change dimensions or something. And no it's just therapy as understood by #booktok types. That's it.>“How?” Ishar repeated. “What are you?” He gestured toward Szeth. “Are you … are you his spren? His god?”>“No,” Kaladin said. “I’m his therapist.”
>>24687179Kaladin is so lucky...
>>24687787Partly because Sanderson is downstream of Robert Jordan.But even then he is extremely influential. James Islington cited Mistborn as why he started writing and the Shadow of what was lost trilogy is very much written like Sanderson.People in general are writing magic systems as if they were sciences, because of Sanderson's autism.
>>24687787Brandon Sanderson, much like Sarah J Maas is extremely demographic specific. It is unlike sometihng like Harry Potter or ASOIAF, whose commercial success was unhindered by being stuck to a demographic, mostly due to factors outside of the writing and more due to the way they were marketed and publicized, otherwise they too could be narrowly stuck with a specific audience of children or spergs REALLY into violence and historical fiction.The issue with him is that he is a turbo autist, one with a very good ability to speak to the public and curate a nice, likable persona, but he is too toothless and incapable on his own when it comes to being his own businessman. You can tell by the way he gets kind of pushed around by Amazon's business decisions all the time. He definitely has people working for him who handle the business aspects and it doesn't seem to be his publishing house, which seems to just put out literary autisms but not have that much in the way of sway of an industry.Sarah J Maas is like that as well. She is very much vocally talked about, but NO ONE outside of booktok knows her work or cares. Sometimes a series of hers sells millions, her entire body of work has sold dozens of millions, yet nobody outside of its specific audience knows it. It makes no greater mark on literature, even commercial entertainment lit. For reference, her ACOTAR series has sold as much as Jujutsu Kaisen. No one knows it.
