Anyone notice that almost every author from every time feels the need to run anti-immortality propaganda? What is that? What’s so scary about the living forever that it requires non-stop propagandizing against? Is it just that people want to cope that dying is a good thing because they have no choice but to die? Why is it that whenever a character achieves immortality it’s depicted as an awful, depressing inhuman experience? Why is it NEVER explored how an immortal person can be in the lives of many more people across many generations?
sour grapes
I could drink so much beer if I lived forever
>>24687479Lots of people are apathetic now to the point that they create their own self fulfilling cycle so they get this idea that life in general isn’t worth living. Also probably ssri’s.
>>24687479It was originally to stop other people from wanting to become immortal, doing it, and ruining it for them. Then it became a trope that people did automatically and the immortals didn't have to put in so much work on it.>>24687586Commonly known fact: those Babylonians recounting the epic of Gilgamesh were totally krunked on Zoloft.
>>24687479Immortality is gay, and it's deconstruction is justified specifically by faggots like you think it's not gay and actively try to spread the gayness of longing for it. >Why is it NEVER explored how an immortal person can be in the lives of many more people across many generations?That is often showed precisely as a major part of the "awful, depressing inhuman experience" thing.
>>24687479Every author is immortal and seeks the sweet sweet release of death. You have something that they will never taste: ceasation.
Another thing. Whenever an immortal is confronted by a protagonist, all they can do is stand there while a baby lectures them about morality and life. Shouldn’t a person who’s lived for hundreds or even thousands of years be much wiser and armed with plenty of rhetorical comebacks to that? Shouldn’t such an experienced person understand mortals even better then they do themselves? Picture how much wiser and intellectually capable you are as an adult compared to when you were a teenager and the multiply that gap many times over. Yet this is never shown, the immortal has to be, in contradiction to expectations, a shallow almost animal-like shell who can only seethe impotently at the protag’s lecture.
>>24687479Coping with their approaching death by trying to make living forever be a bad thing.The older I get the more I realise that immortality seekers are in the right.
>>24687479Read Moses Mendelsohn's Phädon.
>>24688399>PhädonI'll check it out, thanks.
>>24687902Because the mortal is going to die, who gives a fuck about arguing with it? It's like taking a political debate seriously with leftists who will simply use whatever made up definitions of words they want. At some point you realize it's pointless to seriously engage
>>24687902Look at the immortal gods of the Iliad. They aren't heartless (think Zeus mourning his mortal son Sarpedon), but there aren't really the same consequences for them as for mortals, hence they both tend to act more cruel and get away with it.
>>24688423But this is not what happens. The immortal always seems to cling to some simpleton's mindset when in fact it should at a minimum be contemplative of an arc of history. Even if one ignores a baby crying at him for the millionth time because he knows the infant doesn't have experience to understand the truth of things, there should at least be some indication that's the case. Not just throwing childlike sophistry seemingly designed to make the protagonist look right.
>>246874791) Presenting the idea that immortality might not be as cool as you think =/= propagandizing against it2) living for 10,000 years would be awesome and objectively better. Living for 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years would be torture for the overwhelming majority of it
>>24687902the story is written by a mortal. Writing that would be like trying to write the process of solving an equation that you don't even know how to approach
>>24688938There’s a limit to how much information your brain can store. If you lived long enough you would be constantly forgetting things as new information comes in.
>>24687479Imagine having to brush your teeth and tie your shoes for eternity.
>>24687479THe characters in the Old Testament were basically immortal. I mean hundreds of years old what else doy you need? THe jews did not see it as a bad thing
>>24688920I'm not sure which examples you're basing it off
>>24687479The thing about immortality is, and I entirely grant the Aristotelian/Thomistic arguments for the immateriality of the intellect, is that, if the human individual "I" is unbounded materially and survives physical death, and matter only disintegrates due to entropy and the arrow of time, then isn't whatever that survives death necessarily timeless? So an immortal mode of being experiences things qualitatively in the same kind of "eternal now" that God experiences.That wouldn't be "eternal" life in the way we think of it as an infinite linear sequence of events with a direction, but "atemporal" life. Anyone more familiar with this stuff, please correct me if I'm wrong.
