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She is the anti-Leonie

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>women

I skip sex scenes in books and TV shows. They add basically nothing to the story. I'm not some puritan - I watch TONS of porn. I'm just bored by reading about or watching people pretend to have sex. It's not interesting or sexy, it's just boring

>>24689120
She argues that you watching porn is the same thing as women reading porn. She explicitly says the female brain is wired to respond better to written porn because they crave empathy and the storytelling which men don't. In hindsight this would explain a lot of the bad decisions women make and causes they support.

>>24689134
The difference is that i can cum in 60 seconds and get back with my day - i dont spend a few hours a day watching porn

>>24689303
Peterson nailed this part. A low status woman meets a high status man who falls madly in love and cares only for her. Women cum buckets for that. They don't talk about babies. But this is a jackpot reproduction wise for women.

>>24689134
>because they crave empathy
>"I'm not like them; I have feelings!"
I believe that they think men don't require empathy but it's laughable.
I know it's a cringe example (not any more cringe than werewolves tbf) but there are two reasons why step fantasy got so popular, neither of which are physical or visual:
1. The taboo, obviously (social)
2. It's one of the only types of porn where the actors show more emotion than if they were assembling an IKEA set (emotional)
GFE is also ridiculously popular and frequently has no sexual content at all.
>>24689340
>But this is a jackpot reproduction wise for women.
It has about as much to do with reproduction as gooning to anime characters.

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The spergy 20-minute rant on how getting wet from non-consensual fairy fingering does not mean you enjoy it was clearly personal.

>>24689416
After 30 years of being attracted to women, I am starting to reconsider my decision.

>>24689395
I mean in the novels. It's all about hijacking your reproductive drive. For men it's super cutie youthfull sex nymphs. For women it's rich handsome loner Chad's who love them above all else. There is no better mate to reproduce with from a woman's standpoint.
Just like an average guys isn't going to have a uber attractive cutie fall on his lap. The average woman isn't going to have Elon Musk fly them to his space mansion and make love to them. Not for lack of trying on his part.

>>24689442
How about poor mid loner chuds? Anyone?

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>How could this have happened?

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>>24689134
I watched the video and I can tell you that her point was woefully puritanical. Notice she can't even pronounce the word "porn" verbally, which is strange. The main problem of the video was saying that modern literature is too lewd, rash and inappropriate and women are evil for doing that. You can easily translate this to men watching anime, videogames with tons of fanservice and bouncing boobs.

Many women in the comment section started to say her point of view came as prudish and downright hysterical. Especially because censorship in 2025 is increasing all over the Internet.

If anything, literature and entertainment feels so soulless today because is much less transgressive than to say, literature in the 90s or the 80s. You could read all type of shit there and genuinely disturbing things that challenged standard views. You had pulp filled with ultra violence and sex scenes and for women you have all sort of vampire or witch literature dipping in occult stuff, tons of social critique, etc. By asking that women literature to be more prudish and even more sanitized is basically asking to kill literature for good (and eventually killing things like anime or anything actually fun for that matter).

>>24689051
I would take this woman more seriously if her writing wasn't so aggresively mediocre.

>>24689637
Are you retarded? She doesn't say porn because the algorithm punishes your reach for it. She says as much at the start.

>By asking that women literature to be more prudish and even more sanitized
???
The new york best seller list has literal minotaur bestiality on it. What more do you fucking want. I like writing erotica desu (I've never published it other than showing it to ex gfs) but it should absolutely not be normal or publicly available. Making you coom != good for everyone.

>>24689637
I watched it over a week ago so I might be remembering wrong, but I thought she mentioned at one point that she can't say the word "porn" because YouTube's automated censorship system will flag her video as adult content if she does. Her main argument is the familiar one that your brain's long-term reaction to continuous porn consumption works like drug resistance and you will inevitably need increasingly depraved content to feel the same thrill. There might be some truth to that but afaik there isn't enough research to say for sure.

The real problem is something else. Women have been reading smut forever, but it used to be quarantined to the smut ghetto in one corner of the bookstore with cover art of hunky men tearing women's clothes off, so you could recognize it for what it is a mile away and nobody pretended it was anything else. Some women got addicted to them, some women read them in moderation, overall it wasn't a big deal. Now this type of book has subdued cover art that doesn't convey much information and stores stock it in the fantasy and sci-fi section mixed in with normal books, and women pretend like it's ordinary genre fiction when they review it on social media. Nobody would have much of an issue with these books or even be aware of them if there wasn't this large scale gaslighting to pretend they're something other than porn. It's like if every third movie coming out of Hollywood was just explicit porn with low production value and porn stars instead of real actors and everyone in Hollywood pretended they were normal movies. Is the issue the porn itself or is it the way it's being mixed in with more mainstream content?

>>24689051
I like her aesthetic is she single

i'm a man and i thought Twilight was good

>>24689822
How bad can it b-
>Blue Prince
>On royalslop
Its xianxia slop isn't it?

>>24689134
>She argues that you watching porn is the same thing as women reading porn
it obviously is, you will just never see any man pretend porn is high art and that they cultured for engaging with it

>>24689637
>If anything, literature and entertainment feels so soulless today because is much less transgressive than to say, literature in the 90s or the 80s.
When everything became permissible, there was nothing left to be edgy/transgressive. You NEED a conservative mainstream culture to get cool countercultures.

>>24689892
Wasn't that the point of Playboy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8ATT6Ffd88

How to find a qt fat hairy Jewess who reads and didn't go to college to marry and live happily with ever after, /lit/?

>>24689442
>The average woman isn't going to have Elon Musk fly them to his space mansion and make love to them.
Didn't he literally already do this to 20+ average and below average women?

>>24689999
Well he's giving it an honest go, he's only human after all. For now.

>>24689999
If you were the richest man on earth wouldn't you knock up as many women as possible like Genghis Khan?

>>24689637
Smut, porn, and fanservice are not transgressive. They are inferior products for inferior people, and the fact that they are so popular today IS bad, which is her point. Smut does not good literature make.

>>24689879
I actually went out of my way to read it and while it looks like that on the surface it's more a regular low fantasy set in not-china and not half-bad desu. Plot is a bit unsubtle but I enjoyed it.

>>24690055
You’re a moron. I’d hire the ultimate matchmaking service to find me a wife 100% compatible with me across every possible metric.

>>24690066
>has more money than anybody
>wants a wife
lol retard, absolute buffoon

monogamy is slave morality invented to keep proles in their place, it doesn't apply to god-kings

I’m a man and I read porn
Smut is better than cinematic porn. More vivid views into the thoughts of the characters. More room to explore kinks that can’t quite be captured on film. You can build hotter scenarios by having a wider cast of characters whereas porno clips usually stick to the bare minimum of the people having sex in that clip. The acting in porno movies is also consistently bad and the dialogue is almost never good.
Things are possible in smut that are unfilmable, or even illegal to film. It’s the pinnacle of pornography.

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>>24689637
You either didn't watch it or you did and managed to miss the entire point holy. Her point is that using sex to sell books is transforming the industry into low quality hornybait. The sex scene is the entire book objective and build up and everything else is secondary and getting hammered into the bare minimum.
She is not asking for prudish books, she is asking for books to not be porn which is not the same thing as sanitizing.

It is literally happening to videogames too. When games are not a souless DEI fest like Veilguard or Concord they are gacha games.

>>24689822
desu i don't subscribe to the view that you need to be good at something to recognize when it is bad. I'm not a good football player but i know when i see a bad one and i can identify why he is bad.

>>24690066
>I’d hire the ultimate matchmaking service to find me a wife 100% compatible with me across every possible metric
The degenerates have already done that in pic rel

>>24689637
>eventually killing things like anime or anything actually fun
"If I can't watch PORN then what's even the point of life??" fags are the most insufferable retards on the planet

>>24690080
> i don't subscribe to the view that you need to be good at something to recognize when it is bad
Oh yeah I agree. I mostly agree with her points in the smut video (although I think she has slightly too much radfem anti sex neuroticism). I meant her writing advice in her other videos, I've watched most of them.

>>24690079
Me too but it's still bad to have it normalized. Apparently feminist librarians are handing it out to 12 year olds. It's immensely fucked.

Wireheading should be resisted.

>>24689967
But we do have a conservative mainstream culture.
21st century western “liberalism”, contrary to its self image, is extremely reactionary and puritanical
>Democracy and freedom are bad, aristocracy by another name and authoritarianism are good
>Moral norms are strict, rigid and unquestionable
>Heterosexual sex is more repressed and policed than it has been since the 1960s
Things like rape smut and lolicon are the epitome of 21st century counterculturalism. What we have today is not actually liberal at all, it’s an extremely rigid civic religion based on a cargo cult of various civil rights movements that calls itself liberal because those movements were liberal, but under the skin the real bones of that civic religion are technocracy.

>>24690108
>>Democracy and freedom are bad, aristocracy by another name and authoritarianism are good
>>Moral norms are strict, rigid and unquestionable
>>Heterosexual sex is more repressed and policed than it has been since the 1960s
Those are based though why would I change that

>>24690118
So join the Democrat party or your regional equivalent.

>>24690108
So what would your truly liberal society look like? How would it differ from say 2020 San Fran

>>24690139
You need only look at the things about somewhere like 2020 San Fran that are blatantly illiberal.
There are blatantly obvious examples. Gun control is a textbook one. The way heterosexual sex is policed with ideas like rape culture bad objectification. The rigid guardrails put on speech and thought, you cannot just say the obvious that troons are not women, the very freedom to have an opinion is itself what is attacked. These latter two points could be expanded at length because they appear in various forms constantly. Drunk sex is evil, you can’t question the vaxx, loli hentai is evil, you can’t question immigration policy, looking at yoga pants and getting hard is evil, you can’t question that the problem is the police and not niggers nigging etc. It just goes on and on.
It’d be easier to list the areas in which modern liberalism actually is liberal. And that would be a short list, it’s pretty much just gay sex, abortion and border control, maybe euthanasia in particularly avant garde regions.

>>24689416
She's Dutch, Dutch women are 6'1 feet on average. She has to fantasize about 7 feet men (which are common in the Netherlands)

>>24690298
In the entire world there’s only about 2-3000 7 foot+ people. Dutch men aren’t really that much taller than Dutch women. They are a bit but it’s not as dramatic as in some other countries.
Strange people

>>24689086
I hate this infantalisation of vocabulary
The sex scenes
The rape scenes
The scenes where her anus gaped
Not le teehee spicy please corporation I'm being safe bullshit

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>>24689838
She still has a whole demeanour of disdain and aggrieved prudence through the video making it clear that the whole topic of smut, fanservice and sex scenes in books for any reason whatsoever make her uncomfortable. I think she was aiming for the slightly-more-intellectual 19th century women compared to the unwashed masses of femcels who write the smut.

> but it should absolutely not be normal or publicly available.
And that's exactly the problem. These prudish type of accusations as the one she was making the video quickly lean themselves for these callings of censorship, book-burning and general anti-artist thug-behaviour. The truth is that good art will always have some transgressive element to it that offends some people. Violence, uncomfortable social critique or just not fitting into a mould. And let's be honest: violence and sex are just fun. Just like rock-and-roll is fun. The idea that women shouldn't leave their fantasy books with romance in them is as stupid as to say men should ban video games and anime. And is hated as a position held by moral busybodies.

>>24690065
>Smut, porn, and fanservice are not transgressive.
Lol, they literally are. That's why always ANYTHING sexual always gets a subset of puritans screaming bloody murder. Satanic panic exists for a reason. And see you can't just go around claiming that everything you dislike is shit and pretend people to take you seriously and just don't call you a censorious retard.

>>24690323
This is for sure not true as I got 3 separate family members that are 7 ft tall. My nephew is currently having a scholarship in the US for basketball because he is 7'1. That statistic is either wrong (most likely the case) or it doesn't include Dutch people as they are outliers or something like that.

>>24690382
>The truth is that good art will always have some transgressive element to it that offends some people.
There is nothing offensive or transgressive about Bach's unaccompanied cello suites within the context they were created in. This is silly dogmatism that is usually not true unless you're mentally ill (I am btw, I am condemning myself with this somewhat).

Lazy, sloppy pattern matching against dogmatic prescriptions without directly engaging with the topic at hand is what actual regressives do.

>And let's be honest: violence and sex are just fun.
Are they? Is gambling fun? What makes them fun? Is meth fun?

>>24690395
>can't tell the difference between statistics and personal experience
So this is what having 50 iq looks like.
How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?

>>24689496
She could just look at her own videos to realize why people think they’re gooners?

>>24690298
>Dutch women are 6'1 feet on average
>7 feet men (which are common in the Netherlands)
you are mentally ill holy shit lmao

>>24690384
Romantasy smut is the female equivalent of anime porn games and visual novels. It's okay for you to like it if that's your thing, but imagine how annoying it would be if porn addicted gooners were constantly talking about their favorite hentai games on social media without any shame whatsoever and would pretend that they are some kind of legitimate art form. That's what booktok chicks are doing with romantasy slop. They talk about this cringy, wish fulfillment porn slop without the slightest hint of shame and it gives normal people second-hand embarassment.

>>24689051
There is plenty of stuff directed towards women that isn't smut.
Though I wouldn't be surprised if smut makes most of the money for the adult female demographic though.


On a slightly unrelated note, I disagree with her on her extreme dislike of formulas and tropes.

>>24690323
Anon... The most common cause for suicide in the Netherlands is being too tall, both for men and for women. A not insignificant portion of the population gets hormone blockers during puberty to limit their height to prevent people from growing too tall. I'm 6'3 and I got bullied for being short. About a third of women I see are taller than me, 80% of men are. I'm restricted to dating expats because I'm too short for Dutch women.

>>24690434
Dude, you are so stupid you couldn't even write a 1 paragraph shitpost that doesn't contradict itself. The dutch are suicidal for being too tall and they take hormone blockers to stay shorter, but you were bullied for being short and can't date because of it? Is this the sort of shitposting quality you can get away with on other boards? This is just embarassing.

>>24690445
Pseud post, 60 iq

>>24689865
ring on finger, anon.

YouTube has been pushing BookTube content on me a lot more forcefully than usual, lately.

>>24690473
I wish it did that for me, too. Maybe I'd find something worthwhile.

>>24690473
juat ignore it, or else it will poison your mind

>>24690434
Average male height in the Netherlands is 6’1”
Average female height in the Netherlands is 5’’7”
There is no country in the world where 7’ is common and 6’3” is short.

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>>24690399
Bringing Bach to a discussion of literature and stories is strange. But if you really want to go for the topic of classical music we could take Wagner for example. Should we ban Der Ring des Nibelungen along with all the music compositions belonging to it such as Der Walkyrie because the play is filled with incest, rape and infidelity? Should we ban Carmen because the main plot is about an adulterous woman who cheats on her proponents? And before you say this would never happen, when the play was actually premiered in the 19th century it received wide criticism for being immoral, scandalous and perverse. It gained fame out of France. We can also put the example of Molière, today universally considered a genius of theatre for France was refused rites after his death by priests because acting was considered immoral, and actors were buried along with prostitues and people who suicided. For being one of the most famous he was spared the indignity and only was buried along with unbaptized infants.

What about Paradise Lost and Lazarillo de Tornes being outright outlawed by the Inquisition, two works now considered classics?

But hey, culture moved, so everyone gets to pretend these things never happened and moral orbiters didn't try to outright outlaw theatre. Now theatre is considered "high art". Funny how that works!

>>24690480
Yeah, ban it.

>>24690480
> acting was considered immoral, and actors were buried along with prostitues and people who suicided.
Based

>>24690487
>>24690489
This. Everything except the Holy Bible should be banned and anyone who can read should be tortured to death on principle.
>b-but how will people read the bible if they can't read at all
To the rack with you.

>>24690491
What does that have to do with actors being prostitute-tier?

>>24690428
>Caring what nomralfags think

>>24690445
They both hold true. Tall women don't date men shorter than them, hence they get suicidal if too tall. Men get bullied if almost half of women in their classroom are taller than them, which happens at around 6'2-6'3 in the Netherlands as median height for ethnic Dutch women is 6'1

>>24689051
>only
the overwhelming majority of stuff women write for each other isn't actually porn, and a lot of the porn that does exist is quite mild. booktok just has a small list of known smutty books that reach meme status.

>>24690478
This includes immigrants which are way shorter dragging averages down a lot. Look at ethnic Dutch statistics.

The fact that this shit absolutely fills big box bookstore primarily Barnes & Noble now should alarm all of us.

>>24690520
Do you have any of these ethnic Dutch statistics showing that most women are taller than 6’3” and 7’ men are common?

>>24690533
Common in the same sense that 6 ft is common in the US. It's what women fantasize about. If women are already 6'1 on average then they have to aim higher.

>>24690539
In the United States about 15% percent of the male population is 6 foot or taller.
Even if the entire global population of 7 foot people lived in the Netherlands it would still be less than 0.02%. In any city I’ve been you meet 6 foot men everyday, granted I’ve never been to Asia. I’ve been to the Netherlands and I never met any of these supposedly abundant 7 footers though.
> If women are already 6'1 on average
But they’re not,