people who read a lot and know history well enough, do you think that antisemitism has rational enough roots for us to be antisemitic now
What should be wrong or irrational about antisemitism?
>>24691694what if it was based on superiority of jews
>>24691687if everyone kills at least one jew the world would be a much better place
>>24691710you're a mentally ill psychotic, seek help at once
>>24691687No, antisemitic arguments all hinge on exaggerating the dissonance between the retarded mainstream "Jews can't do anything wrong ever" narrative and the reality where they do in fact engage in nepotism, selfishness, etc. like any other ethnic group does or has. Just because someone lied to you doesn't mean the exact opposite of the lie is true.
>>24691717you're right the issue isn't the jews its the muttgolems that enable them
>>24691687Anyone who reads a lot and knows history well enough would know that the term antisemitic is basically a buzzword that is used as a tool by zionist and grifters. Much like later terms like homophobic and islamphobic. Don't play into the word games of your enemy.
Jews are responsible for a disproportionate amount of humanity’s greatest achievements in the arts and sciences. So many of the great things we take for granted would be unimaginable without Jews. Simply look at the number of Jewish Nobel Prize recipients and the achievements for which they are responsible. If anti-Semites had succeeded in eliminating the Jews, humanity would be terribly impoverished.At the same times, Jews just can’t seem to stop themselves from acting really fucking JEWISH
>>24691751I do not need Louise Glück or Robert Zimmerman thank you
>>24691726I think it's a bit dishonist to act like the behavor of jews is comparable to all other ethnic groups or that nepotism and selfishness are the only issues people have with them. You don't get kicked out of over a hundred countries and antagonize every population you live among just by doing what every other ethnic group does or a bit of nepotism. They have a odd mix of superiority complex and persecution complex that makes them feel morally justified in truly abhorrent behavor that most people get fed up with. Jewish culture is built on excessive pride and playing up being the victim even as they victimize.
>>24691762>I think it's a bit dishonist to act like the behavor of jews is comparable to all other ethnic groupsRead classical literature. Roman emperors would crucify tens of thousands just to prove a point. Whatever bad shit Jews have done is nothing new or unique except for the unique-in-history context of Christian European civilization. >You don't get kicked out of over a hundred countries and antagonize every population you live among just by doing what every other ethnic group does or a bit of nepotismTons of people have been genocided and expelled in similar ways, what makes the Jews unique is largely just their stubbornness in not assimilating and maintaining their traditions. Do you think the anglo saxon conquest of England or William the Bastard's harrowing of the north were peaceful, happy events? What about the German "crusades" against the Balts and the Balts brutalization of relatively peaceful christian Germans, slavs, etc. before that? What have Jews, even if you accept all the "raped and killed christian kids" tales, done that surpassed the degenerate crimes of Caligula and Elizabeth Bathory?I'm not so much saying that Jews are innocent, but that literally no one is. Our combined history is constant violence, oppression, and tragedy.
Anti-semitism was an imbecilic ideology in the mid-20th century that led a nation into abject defeat and near self-destruction. It is a loser ideology. Zionism is also anti-Semitic, for two reasons:First, it is structurally the same as anti-semitism, a supposedly once-healthy body politic is infiltrated by an insidious power that is at simultaneously all-powerful and yet weak and subhuman: the Palestinian and the “Palestine lobby.” This is why Nazism created the non-sensical judeo-Bolshevik concept, they literally could not conceptualize social contradictions within the German nation and just made up the idea that aryan German communist workers were Jews or were mind-controlled. For the same reason, you can see Israeli society calling Jews protesting for a negotiation to return the hostages “Hamas”The second reason is more particular to the Jews. The ideology of Zionism rejected the civic nationalism that was birthed in the Enlightenment, that regardless of race or creed, you were French, German, etc. Zionism instead accepted the premise that nation and racial origin were synonymous, and that the Jew was incapable of integration into European society. The overlap between anti-semites and zionists was basically 1:1, it was the motivation for the Balfour Declaration and it was the nazi’s express purpose to find a Jewish homeland in Africa or wherever before they needed a scapegoat after getting utterly destroyed by Soviet industrial supremacy in 1943-1944 and began the final solution. The dialectical irony of our moment is that becoming anti-Semitic in the west plays into Zionism, the blame for Israeli genocide will be placed squarely on anti-Zionist Jews for the simple fact of being Jewish, thus recreating the very conditions that gave rise to Zionism: the impossible integration of Jews into western society, and thereby bolstering Israel’s claim of being the only place safe for Jews (and the continuation of Israel’s plans to turn the Middle East into a vast lebensraum, see the Yinon plan).Antisemitism and Zionism are the same.
Is this the virgin containment thread
>>24691810So your only argument is whataboutism and disingenuous comparisons of apples and oranges to make that whataboutism claim. I want you to reflect on your argument in the context of what is being disused. Maybe with reflection you can conclude why it is nether convincing nor compelling. I see this same form of argumentation whenever the CCP's or USSR's wrongdoings are brought up.
>>24691845The fuck are you talking about? Just about every antisemitic argument I've seen is predicated on claims that the Jews have committed some exceptional crime, or are currently doing so. It's not convincing or compelling to you because antisemitism is part of your identity the same way trannyism is to a tranny. I get it, but it's still wrong.
>>24691815no, that's the TAG thread.
>>24691815it's the JIDF zoomie thread
>>24691867And now you are strawmaning and making baseless assumptions about someone you don't know instead of engaging in self reflection. Think about your argument, not think up insults to spew.
>>24691894You are retarded anon
>>24691810surprisingly, the only intelligent perspective in this inarguably profoundly low iq thread.
>>24691810Jewish cruelty is weaselly and subversive and when they take the mask off is when the problem of their existence starts to rapidly get sorted out.
Somebody pill me on anti-semitism, as an American I care about Fentanyl + street violence and mass immigration.If we arrest some 40 important Hebrews + Soros, all that is going to stop? I think not.
>>24691950Arrest every politician accepting their money for treason
>>24691950A lot of it would, but it'd take the top 500 not top 40.Name something that you don't like about society, and there will be a jew at the forefront of its advocates. I don't hate Jews as a group, but that's a little weird, isn't it?
>>24691955Arrest every politician accepting their moneyI want to name the solution to a problem, in order to fix it. Like if my house is on fire, the solution isn't pointing out pornography is also bad. >>24691958A lot of it would, but it'd take the top 500 Feels like Stalin tried all that with deporting different ethnic groups everything still sucked.Solzhenitsyn wrote:>If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being.
>>24691728Are these muttgolems in the room with us right now, Hans?
>>24691815Roastie hands typed this
>>24692034>But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being.Trvthnvke
>>24692034getting put in a cage for life is an example for other hylics
>>24691751It's just nepotism, laddy. You need connections to get those jobs and posts that allow you to do research and you even need connections to win the prizes.
>>24691687Jewishness is a crime against humanity, but there is nothing racially inherent in those who call themselves Jews that makes them bad imo. Jews are raised since birth to believe in genocidal nonsense about how they're a chosen race that's meant to enslave all goyim.
>>24691751>If anti-Semites had succeeded in eliminating the Jews, humanity would be terribly impoverished.True places like Scandinavia wouldn't be ENRICHED without the likes of Barbara Lerner Spectre or Ervin Kohn.
>>24691810The difference is that Jews did not leave behind their psychotic behaviour in antiquity.
>>24691687>/lit/s staple anti-semitism threadyou are spreading hate
>>24691867>or are currently doing so.Your pathetic strawman aside, yes they are. Their treatment of Palestinians is, in this cruel world, bizarrely unique.
>>24691950You will never stop people wanting to get high. That's a pipe dream.
>>24691950You could kill every fent dealer in America tomorrow and the opioid trade would be back up and running by Monday.