Is The Wheel of Time worth reading?How self-contained are the books?Does the story really needed all those books to be told?
>Is The Wheel of Time worth reading?No>How self-contained are the books?They are not, it's a series. You need to read them in order.>Does the story really needed all those books to be told?Not at all.
>>24694210What is so bad about it?
>>24694297It's genreslop
no
>>24694182Is the Earthsea series by Le Guin worth reading?
>>24694320Define genreslop.
>>24694363Yes
>>24694363I like Le Guin. Her prose is probably around the peak of the fantasy genre, I like it better than Wolfe’s. Her short story The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas is a good starting point.
>>24694182It’s not. I abandoned it as a fantasy reading teen. Means it had to be quite bad. It wasn’t even done at the time but I could sense it was going nowhere. I’d rather re-read Belgarion or Magician.
>>24694378>>24694385Is it as bad as that Ghibli film?
>>24695793The Ghibli film wasn't even that bad but yes the book is completely different.
>>24695796Cool, I might give it a chance down the line.I did see this version on Amazon that caught my attention:https://www.amazon.com.br/Books-Earthsea-Complete-Illustrated/dp/1481465589?
>>24694182Is it worth reading? It is worth reading if you are looking for a long fantasy series that doesnt deviate from the comfort zone too much while still being individual and interesting, and with a large cast of characters that grow on you over time. Otherwise, skip it.Are they self contained? It is a series my dude.Does it need that many books? Definitely not.
>>24694182No. It's a mix of LOTR and Dune with nothing that made either of those works great. Extremely bloated and low quality. It will be forgotten once gen X/millenial nostalgia dies out.
>>24694182Yes, its the greatest high fantasy series ever written. The first six books are the best part of it, however.
>>24694182>Is The Wheel of Time worth reading?I have no idea what you deem worthy. But I liked it. I started reading late in life. Wheel of time was like the third series I've ever read, and I really liked it. Now with years of reading experience under my belt, I've only come to appreciate Wheel of Time eve more.>How self-contained are the books?They are not self contained at all. It's one long series.>Does the story really needed all those books to be told?Yes. You will be lost if you skip a book.If you've been researching the series, then you have probably heard that it drags somewhere in the middle.(In the latter half) I used to think that those parts could be edited down. However, upon re-reads, I've come to the realization that the the length doesn't need to be shortened, rather more important events needed to be fleshed out. There are a few story lines that suffer, not because they're too long. But because they're too short. As the author focused too much on inconsequential banter, rather than pushing the narrative along.But I refer to things in books 8 through 11. If you're already in that deep, then chances are you enjoy the story, and are too invested to stop anyway. The dragging books aren't really "bad". Just slow.
>>24696170>upon rereadsThis series is 15 books long and you've read this multiple times? Christ.
>>24695953>It's a mix of LOTR and DuneThe only thing like lotr in wheel of time id book 1 and the most dune esq thing are the Aiel.
>>24696575Don't forget the Aes Gesserit
>>24696715>Aes SedaiA lot more different compared to the Aiel, with their respective inspirations. Being the remnant half of an older order, with their male half having been destroyed due to all its practitioners going insane. This ties into the overall themes of male and female existentialism, balance and relations between the sexes, etc.Imo Aiel are the only part of the series where I thought Robert just flat out took from DUNE. Tribal warrior races out in the desert, becoming giga chads because of the harshness, who swear fucking water oaths and have an incoming messiah? Like seriously.
>>24694210Fpbp.>>24694182It is a misery porn full of psychological and physical humiliation except the ending, written by the different author because the original one had died of cringe at the realization of what he has made into existence before even finishing it.
>>24696201So WoT is about 12 000 pages. Reread: 24 000 pages. That’s spitting distance of reading a top 100 best books list.
>>24696857>physical humiliation except the endingThe ending was written by Robert Jordan. Did you even read it?
>>24696575Without giving too much away, can you explain how Book 1 is similar to The Lord of the Rings, and how, at least the next 2 books, differ from it?
>>24695793No>>24695803I have that and it's pretty sweet but it's massive and you have to accept that you're only ever going to read this book at home on the couch. I went on a trip recently and I downloaded an Earthsea book onto my kindle before going, which was a fine compromise.
>>24697018Book 1: A couple of backwater small town characters form a fellowship with a couple of more worldly characters and have to go on a quest from one side of the map to the other. More LotR parallels ensue along the way.Subsequent books: Full of other fantasy tropes, but not the one described above
>>24697018Eye of the world is deliberately structured after Fellowship of the rings. This was consciously done by RJ to ease readers in.Once book 2 rolls around it immediately goes in its own direction and never looks back. Series becomes a lot more edgier and darker too, for lack of better terms.
>>24694182>Yes>Not at all>Definitely not
I think I read them too fast. These books were probably fucking gold for a kid who was reading them as they came out, when you have time between books to digest and fantasize about what might happen next. I got to book 7 and he kept introducing new characters and factions and political intrigue surrounding what were previously minor characters. I got halfway through and I was like "I have no idea what's going on anymore." Am I missing out? Should I print off maps and take notes on characters or something? Does it get better?
>>24696124Books 11-14 are pretty fire, come on now. Lets not talk about 10. 8 and 9 were mid, 7 was good, and the first 6 are very good. No cap 14 is the best one tho.
>>24696909It doesm't seem like he did. The foreword of the last book explicitly states that Robert Jordan wrote the final chapter. Unless he skipled the foreword which is a possibikity.
>>24698660Theres actually an app that was made for this exact problem. Its all alot to hold together in your mind. Check out the WoT compendium. Its free and has no adware or anything. You basically tell the app what book ur on and then search up anything and it will have a book-current wikipedia page for you. I.E. it wont spoil anything past what youve already read.
>>24694297The author REFUSES to kill characters while continuing to add characters and give all of them their own side story. It's scope creep in story form. It's like he was trying to build one piece in literature by endlessly creating side plots with no progression or resolution of the main story.>>24694320Ask me how I know you're a fat female who's also never read them.
No
>>24699470>Books 11-14 are pretty fireThey are, yes. Imo, it could have been a disaster with RJ's death, but he wrote so many notes that Sanderson wrote to his beat.
