What is the thought process here? You looked on Reddit for a recommendation, now you’re /lit/ to verify? The sticky has everything you could need to start with the Greeks, anything else is auxiliary.

>>24695456
nigga i just wanna hear opinions chill

Idk. For things like the Greeks, especially presocratics it's better to have some basis Ancient Greek and choose an annotated version of the fragments you want to study.

Chronological order don't mean shit, you are not an historian. Start with Plato right away because that's where occidental people more or less start with the greeks. And by books about Euclides and the Pythagoreans. Having a lot of fragment will not take you very far.

Maybe read about their mythology too.

>>24695467
>Idk. For things like the Greeks, especially presocratics it's better to have some basis Ancient Greek and choose an annotated version of the fragments you want to study.
ok
>Chronological order don't mean shit, you are not an historian
makes it easier to process everything and see the evolution
>Start with Plato right away because that's where occidental people more or less start with the greeks
fuck that shit then. i wanna understand everything
>And by books about Euclides and the Pythagoreans
im planning to read euclides elements

>>24695445
Excellent set of volumes. Contains the testimonia and fragments in Greek and Latin (as applicable) with decent translations of them all. In some cases, you even get some access to fragments discovered subsequent to Diels and Kranz.

On the other hand, it's not really a replacement for Diels and Kranz, since many of the smaller figures lack any presence, as well as a few significant Pythagoreans.

Start with the Torah. Learned Greeks like Origen admitted that all the wisdom of the Egyptians and Greeks, from Euclid to Plato, was a pale imitation of Moses and Solomon. After the Torah read the Wisdom and Proverbs of Solomon. Then the wisdom of Sirach is excellent, and Ecclesiastes.

>>24695546
Ok, Im really liking the fragments and testimonies.
>On the other hand, it's not really a replacement for Diels and Kranz, since many of the smaller figures lack any presence, as well as a few significant Pythagoreans
Oh I dont wanna go too deep. These smaller figures can left out and I will read about the pythagoreans separately

>>24695445
I agree with this anon >>24695467, these fragments are interesting, however you might miss some context, although something like Heraclitus' fragments are very short so you can easily re-read them anyways.
I would start with the Theogony which is the Greek creation myth.

you should start by analyzing cave paintings of preliterate societies. start with Maltravieso cave in Spain and go chronologically from there

>>24695551
>learned Greeks like Origen
Good one anon