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is it possible to live a happy life without romantic love?
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>>24696576
yes if you're aromantic
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>>24696576
more like is it possible to live a happy life with romantic love particularly of the unrequited variety.
i've never felt so miserable in my life
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>>24696605
the only aromantics are successfully repressed and medicated women
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>>24696576
Women can't be romantic, so there's not really any point in romance unless you're gay
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>>24696605
what if you're aromatic
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I had some very painful and passionate loves (mostly one-sided) 8 years ago and that's enough for me
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>>24696605
Aromantic and asexual people are so due to repressed and unaddressed trauma. There's no such thing as an asexual mammal.
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Not yet, but soon. Once the Israeli bio-tech firm 'Pangea Biomed' completes their secret "Smell-X VisionTM" machine, allowing real-time, person-to-person smell transfer between many wet, plump, syrupy vaginas around the world and your own nostrils, then we shall have peace and contentedness, then we have has transcended the need for physical companionship, and finally achieved the ultimate destiny of this dark path of technologi.
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If you aren't intelligent enough to see how romance has been weaponized by women and commercialized by corporations then no, you have many years of suffering ahead.
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>>24696576
More likely to live an unhappy life with it.
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The absence of "romance" is probably one of the core prerequisites of happiness so yeah.
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>>24696700

But i don't have a trauma that would've affected my sexuality. It's just i prefer to be alone as it gives me more time for self development.
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>>24696669
then you don't care about romantic love and you direct all that unused energy into developping strong friendships, platonic relationships and the search for Beauty.

>>24696700
Not all aroace people have trauma, though some do. Ace people tend to be on a spectrum from sex-positive to sex-negative, sometimes sex-neutral. Only the ones that are extremely sex-negative tend to have traumas but for the others it's just a sexual preference/lack of interest kind of thing.
By the way you can be aromantic but sexual and asexual but romantic.

>>24696762
>>24696702
>>24696667
losers
losers
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>>24696576
Life's a lot more meaningful with a weak, hoping, despairing heart. Surprised to hear pussy anons here prefer nothingness to that
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>>24696762
Exactly. Women see a romantic guy as weak and will take advantage of him because of it
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>>24696762
The prostitute and degrade the most valuable thing in the world precisely because its the most valuable. You are the ultimate cuck if you fall for this while thinking you have somehow overcome the corporations
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>>24696864
Genuine question, I can understand being asexual and romantic (because I am) but could you explain how can someone be aromantic and sexual? Isn’t that just those who have casual sex and want to be categorised into a part of the lgbt?
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>>24696969
>Isn’t that just those who have casual sex
Being aroace myself I don't have a clue lol. I guess casual sex isn't exclusive with romance ? Like it's just about avoiding commitment and getting attached etc. (I think). But yeah I guess some people enjoy sex and seek it but don't get any pleasure in romantic stuff, though they probably don't know that there is a specific term for that.
>and want to be categorised into a part of the lgbt?
people think being lgbt is the new cool kids club but the reality is that the goal of the lgbt community is to defend it's members and there right to exist in fair conditions. The nice things that come with being part of it are just small compensations for all the shit you get, have gotten and will get in your daily life. I don't think a lot of people identify as aromantic just to go to the cool parties. If it's just that it's not super cool but fine I guess, but if they identify as it and need support for the shit they get then yeah they belong
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>>24696969
>>24697278
Do many aro but not ace people even put that label on themselves?
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>>24697278
>the goal of the lgbt community is to defend it's members
It's never really just that but also accumulation of power, desire to paint society in their colors, gratify egoistic desires, hound after meaning, those kinds of things.
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>>24696605
Imagine the smell.
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>>24697278
>they probably don't know that there is a specific term for that.
Yeah, but, like, probably because these terms are just meaningless? I mean, it's not like people have these essences within them and aren't rather products of multiple inderdependent causes. It's probably more like how the greeks saw it and sexuality is just a choice.
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>>24696864
Energy? Like, mass? Beauty?
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>>24697478
idk, probably not
I don't know any aro/ace people irl anyway
>>24697487
that's what they want you to think but if you went to lgbt gatherings and listened to them (which I did) you'd realize that none of that is true
lgbt people still don't have as much rights as non lgbt people and there existence is still illegal in most countries in the world often faced with death penalties

>>24697495
The point of these categories is that people have a term to qualify an experience and can use that term to find people who have similar experiences and gain a better understanding of what they are facing and how to live with it. Maybe there is a name to something you're struggling with in your daily life and knowing what that name is is the first step into ending the struggle. It's not about finding the universal truth. It's acknowledged that being aro/ace or not might change with time. For some it might have a very concrete cause and can be resolved with a lot of therapy, for others it's not and you just have to live with it and be happy
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>>24697495
I'll assume we're talking about straight people here.
The reason why straight people who only want casual sex won't identify with the lgbt community is because men only caring about sex has been normalized for ages, and semi-recently the same started applying to women.
If more of them felt like they fall outside the norms in that extremely crucial part of human experience, more of them would've sought that same type of community.
In fact I'd go further. Homosexuality as just casual sex has been present all througout the world without being a huge issue. It is the desire to have committed romantic relationships openly that has led to the modern lgbt movement.
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>>24696576
Happy yes fulfilled probably not
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>>24696969
>I can understand being asexual and romantic (because I am)
if you don't mind me asking, could you share more about your experience? are you/were you ever in a relationship? what is it like?
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>>24696669
then you need to take a shower
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>>24696576
This incel was mad nobody wanted his grapes lmao
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>>24698148
No problem, blog incoming.
I had only one relationship which lasted 4-5 months, that was 10 years ago back in high school. At the time I had a very naive conception of a relationship, that being with a boyfriend meant kissing and holding hands, sleeping together meant just cuddling.
In one of his attempts to initiate sex I told him with a straight face that I planned to stay a virgin my whole life, he broke up not long after.

I don’t have any sexual trauma and I don’t mind other people having sex. It’s just that in my case I always felt disgusted by the idea of act and the sight of any sexual organ (male or female) makes me compulsively turn my head away. It’s as if my brain was still one of a child.

After this relationship I tried to fix myself by trying porn and mastubation (which I never did before) but I ended up feeling completely guilty and disgusted so I stopped.

Since then, I understood that any relationship that I might have is bound to break because of my inability to provide sex. It’s perfectly understandable that people want to have sex, and I wouldn’t want to make someone loose their time especially if they want to have kids.
So when there’s a great connexion with a man, there is no point in pursuing anything so I keep everything platonic.

I called myself asexual earlier in my post, I discovered the term not a long time ago and used it for the sake of convenience but I really don’t feel comfortable with it. I don’t want to belong to a community, it’s really not something I’m proud of.
Although I like solitude, I do feel lonely sometimes and wish I could share my life with someone. But it’s okay it doesn’t happen.
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yes and the secret ingredient is called drugs
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>>24696576
Women treat you as a cum dispenser. The romancepilled idiots willingly refuse to see this and get taken advantage of. The woman’s weapon is manipulation and the easiest target to manipulate is a gullible hopeless romantic. Do you think the stereotypical drug-dealing thug who beats her while she does his bidding cares about romance? Give me a break.
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>>24699512
Thanks for sharing, anon.
While I can understand your discomfort with the term asexual, I feel like maybe you should see it more as a tool. I'm not in your situation, so maybe I'm not really the one to give advice, but I feel like you could try finding an asexual partner online. Ignoring your own need for love is very painful, in my experience, and it leaves a mark on you. You don't need to feel proud about it, but a community that understands you can be helpful.
Wish you all the best.
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>>24696576
If you can just make it to age 50, yes.
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>>24696618
Wait until you feel limerence while being in a stable, (presumed) happy long-term relationship without any real problems with a different person Questioning your own sanity and self hatred boiling you alive
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>>24699851
I'm sorry anon. It's agony. I am in a similar situation minus the "without any real problems" part.
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>>24699861
Also sorry for you. How do you cope or try to deal with it?
I mean, for me the rational way in my situation is pretty clear, and it has been the whole time. But I feel like "rational" is somewhat lacking to tackle the issue (sorry Spinoza)
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>>24699512
John Ruskin was like this. I've started to believe morality is less about conscious self-control than the kind of sensitivity that effortlessly sets the parameters of behavior. Obviously it seems like this has gone too far in your case. Sex properly understood is the culmination of love and a mysterious and divine act of creation. Of course in the culture, and maybe this is just natural on some level, what I just stated is the transcendental exception, sex is a need that needs providing for. Have you ever had any desire to be a mother?
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>>24699851
>Wait until you feel limerence while being in a stable, (presumed) happy long-term relationship
Are you married? "long-term relationship" is a bizarre compromise position. If you really loved her wouldn't you have wanted to get married? Be considerate of her feelings and her own life. Sometimes you have to be cruel to do what's right. Real morals require resolution beyond a wishy washy desire to a have everyone be happy in the short term
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of course. more than that, it's even impossible to have a fulfilling romantic life if you're not self-suffisant
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>>24696576
I would guess for most people no, but for some, yes. Depends on how happy "happy" is too.
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>>24699763 #
Thank you very much for your support anon. It doesn’t help that with the little experience I had and the fact I’m a virgin there is also fear that someone could take advantage of the situation. You’re right in the idea that it’d help to meet people who share the same issue. Still, it’s a difficult matter to talk with people especially when you’re not foot at human contact like me. I need to work on this.

>>24700017 #
I can see how sex can be a beautiful thing when properly done with meaning. But even in a hypothetical perfect relationship my disgust would take over nevertheless.
I do not wish to be a mother, I cannot imagine being pregnant, it fills me with the same type of disgust. It doesn’t feel right because in my mind I feel like a child about some things, it’s as if my brain was underdeveloped.
I do not want to destroy the desire of a man to have a family. They’d be better with a woman who can make them happy in the long run.
John Rukin’s situation is interesting, in my case I wasn’t raised in a very religious environment but I did imagine my ancestors floating as spirits around me when I was a child. I didn’t want to make anything shameful because they would see me and be dissatisfied.
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>>24700023
No, we're not married; she doesn't want to marry. I asked her for the first time after being together for 8 years (now it's 16), and she always said it wouldn't be necessary for her. We are together since we are 14, and she shaped the person I am today, guided me through a lot of hardship and made me a better person. Without her I would've an heroed as a teen(at least I think so in retrospective), due to having the first depressive outbreak there .
As I said in the reply to the other anon, there is only the rational to stay with her, especially because I also do love her. That's the part that's torturing me. The correct choice would be to quit being a whiny faggot, but I am what I am
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>>24700753
This sounds like a unique situation then. That's pretty normal to feel affection for someone else after so long. Humans aren't necessarily designed to be completely monogamous, at least men aren't. I don't know what you should do, you should probably do nothing and fate will take care of itself, but you have no reason to hate yourself for this.
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>>24696576
>is it possible to live a happy life
NO
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>>24700418
Honestly, it sounds like you could benefit from psychotherapy, if that's available to you.
You repeatedly mention thinking like a child and also link sex to shame and mention how you didn't want to do anything "shameful" in front of your ancestors.
I don't know if in the end you'll uncover some suppressed sexual desire or understand your asexuality better, but either way it seems like it could help you accept and understand yourself more.
Take care.
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>>24700753
>person I am today, guided me through a lot of hardship and made me a better person. Without her I would've an heroed as a teen(at least I think so in retrospective), due to having the first depressive outbreak there .
>As I said in the reply to the other anon, there is only the rational to stay with her, especially because I also do love her. That's the part that's torturing me. The correct choice would be to quit being a whiny faggot, but I am what I am
Are you my twin my oneitis got married to someone else though
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Commit yourself to a higher purpose. Pursue something that is meaningful to you, which can especially be a creative art - writing, sketching, painting, playing an instrument or anything else. Once you have chosen, aim to improvise at it everyday. Once you see yourself making progress, you will gain confidence and that will suffice to give you happiness, despite the lack of romantic love in your life. In addition, you can also befriend people who pursue the same art as you do. Interacting with such people will help you learn and get better at your art.
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>>24697492
underrated toast
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>>24699512
Post tits or gtfo
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Here's my true love tale:

Since senior year high school been with my dream girl. shes got the looks, body, and personality. she cooks cleans and supports me. of course regular sex, not jealous, nor vile. She's not perfect but neither am I. We give each other grace as we have been together for almost 15 yrs. as teens we had hundreds of wild, fun, sexual adventures. 'early adulthood' post college she started changing and went from down to whatever wherever to kind of cold prude and evil, "dont touch me dont breathe by me, dont lean ur hand there, literally walking on eggshells.....her backstory:

she was on the pill as a teen, she blames her hormones & ignorance & willingness to please me as making her be who shes not. Thus, when she came off the pill and starting maturing, sometime then I proposed to her, and at 23 we both married. She changed...like mentioned, no more kissing, holding hands, moaning during the sexs, no quickies, nothing spontaneous, really planned and checkbox sex (like: only touch this, dont do that, move ur hands, hurry up, she needed to be drunk/stoned etc etc) woe is me right? well, ever the mindless idealist, i kept at it, we had A LOT of fights, I never ended it with a you're the worst i hate you, lets end this. I was optimistic (remembering who she was when we first were fukking and that gave me hope to get that REAL wife back.....)

we then started a family.......

And most importantly, discovered therapy, fell for the 'tism/add self diagnosis plague and now many aspects outside my romantic life are on the upswing, look up ROCD. We are still together and guess what, 10 years after her sexxual habits changed, we're having better sex than as teens, trying more positions, twice a week, she's finally taking lead with cowgirl, (where even as teens she would never try), regular Bjs. Full disclosure, she did not work for 4 years after baby was born, (once ur no longer working you realize how much work is literal soul killing) so she had time to settle her mind, research her problems, reflect on her past & has honestly been the leader in our self care recovery.

Its all good man, idk if you can find real happiness without romance, i've felt i've always been very turned on blame it on ancestral lust in my DNA. sex/romance has been a core tenant in my life, since childhood i decided love is the only real thing, so I've spent hours wishing on it, hoping on it, and desiring it. Subconsciously my intentions have been towards it, my desire/obsession.

You'll have a life partner in mind: once you're ready to find one, go with full hearted eagernerss, all your intentions/actions will start leading you to someone like them, (i want a smart girl = hang out a library's go to college lectures etc etc)
also talk to as many people, talk to girls boys babez and find people who can flirt, learn from them and become a romantic bc if you are, then fukken go all in.
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>>24700998
Thanks for your understanding anyways.
And I also came to the conclusion to let fate decide. But this feeling of being split is quite taxing. As you can imagine the situation is a little deeper than I described it above, so there is more playing into it than just being in a relationship and having lingering feeling for a second person. A Tibetan basket weaving forum is just not the right place to whine.

I only disagree with your last sentence of not hating myself, but that's a me-problem which I am working on.
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>>24701757
Oof. I'd like to consolidate you and tell you all will be good, but that would be a stretch. I can only say it most likely will get better, for what it's worth
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>>24696863
Self development feels less real or fundamental to me than sex and love.
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>>24701584
Thank you for the advice and for taking the time to read my posts. Much appreciated.
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>>24696863
The ironic part is that you need a companion close to you, to figure out what the fields are that you need to improve on. And if you've lived like a recluse, then trust me, there's a lot of communication skills that are invaluable that you likely need to work on. Which you can only do through interacting with people. And communication with your significant other is one of the most difficult things ever, it takes much practice and patience.
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>>24702229
Spoken like a giga normie.
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>>24701847
i ain’t reading all that
I’m happy for u tho
or sorry that happened
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>>24696700
that's like saying there aren't female mammals without a womb, or humans that lack legs. Or to focus on more psychological aspects, people without empathy. It's not like every mammal is perfectly formed.

>>24701847
>she was on the pill as a teen, she blames her hormones & ignorance & willingness to please me as making her be who shes not. Thus, when she came off the pill and starting maturing, sometime then I proposed to her

Women select completely different men when they're on or off the pill.
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>>24696700
dudes will call themselves asexual while jacking off 3 times a day
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>>24702055
I either need to steal her back or consider that she's dead.
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>>24699512
Ok so you're fucked in the head. I can see you're some kind of an autist/psycho from the matter-of-fact tone you have in your posts. "I just told him I'm a space alien from Zork" and you think this is "just the way you are" and don't give a shit because you're too coddled and sheltered to develop into a normal human being.
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>>24700753
>>No, we're not married; she doesn't want to marry. I asked her for the first time after being together for 8 years (now it's 16), and she always said it wouldn't be necessary for her.
Lol, expect "what? it's not like we were married or anything" when she fucks you over in the near future.
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I'm stuck in a relationship that I don't feel too much comfortable but with fear of being totally alone. It's kinda sad
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>>24703284
okay but like consider this hypothetical: if the jackoff material here is not strictly sexual, they still don't like sex
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>>24704107
My man, I am the one telling about having feelings for someone outside of the relationship to anons on the Chan's.
And she is the least female brained woman I have met. No drama, not playing any gossipibg games, etc. So, a move like that would be highly unlikely, perhaps the most unlikely outcome of my situation.
But you know what, if it would happen, then I'd deserve it
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>>24703715
Do you see a chance for the first option? Was there anything between you at some point? Sometimes the latter might be best, but who am I to judge. There is a stupid saying in my language: "better an end full of pain, than pain without end" (loosely translated, not sure if that one exists in English)
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Sure, the love of God is sufficient.

Though in my religion one should seek a wife.

Plenty of fulfilled prophets, hermits, monks that were unmarried.

I believe that the key to a fulfilling life is a personal relationship with the Lord.
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no. but it's not a choice. it's what some of us get and there's nothing that can be done.
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>>24696668
this
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>>24696700
Or due to being in extremely poor health, or as a permanent side effect of certain medications, even if they stopped taking them.
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>>24696576
Some of us don't have a choice.
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>>24700418
>>24699512
That sounds a lot like me. I too find sexual organs disgusting except maybe my own and regarding a cunt if its an innie then its fine i guess. I too felt guilty when i used to masturbate as a teen, nowdays not so much. Also, the thing you mentioned about your ancestors watching you in spirit, i had that feeling when i was a kid too. So basically i had everything you described but only as a kid,not anymore. Makes sense that you feel like you are still a kid, in a way, especially around my parents,i still act like a kid.
But anyway, regarding the OP- i used to be pretty romantic person, i wanted to be romantic towards a woman, but i realized thats just a liability and faux pas to women. Makes you look like a wimp and gullible to them. Does anyone know where does the idea of romantic courting come from cause from my experience none of the women want that at all. So i dont understand why thats even a thing?
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>>24699595
Spiritually empty retards who spend half their lives in jail aren’t really the standard I want to hold my life to.
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>>24699595
>Women treat you as a cum dispenser.
That is so true... I met this girl at university in 2007 and she basically wanted me to get her pregnant. She was more aroused about using me as a sperm donor to get her pregnant rather than to be with me in a relationship.
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>>24696576
Yes, but not without love altogether. If you don’t have relatives you can form close relationships with, then find friends.
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The pain, jealousy, anxiety, and all the other shit that I've experienced through even just liking another girl has weirdly outweighed any outright joy I've had from romantic love. I get more happiness from daydreaming about a girl than actually being with her it seems.
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>>24705958
If. I’m not in love I still feel anxiety and pain, probably less but it’s not as meaningful, and also you suffer from boredom. If you are in love then at least everything is meaningful and are connected with reality
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the terminally single dudes I've known were all a bit weird. I am not looking for a relationship, but I do worry what staying single will do to me as the decades roll on.
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>>24696576
I can hardly function without it, whether or not the consequences rise to the condition of happiness. The question is in any case too recherche for me to address, other than with this.
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>>24705803
>i had everything you described but only as a kid,not anymore
Did it go away by just growing up or did you have to make a conscious effort to remove this condition of disgust and guilt?
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>>24696576
I'm pretty happy without it so yeah.
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>>24706013
>but I do worry what staying single will do to me as the decades roll on
Chicken or the egg situation. The people who end up terminally single into old age typically have mental conditions which make them bad at socializing / relating to others (autism, which accounts for much of the "weirdness" you see in older bachelors), heightened neuroticism (a tendency towards negative emotionality, anger, depression, etc.) which makes their relationships fragile and short-lived, low agreeableness (resulting in an inability to compromise or a tendency to start fights), or just extremely high introversion (making it difficult to meet people in the first place).
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>>24697278
>people think being lgbt is the new cool kids club
That’s because it is.
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>>24696576
That's like asking: "is it possible to live a happy life without becoming an astronaut/billionaire/rock-star?"
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>>24706135
The vast majority of people do not become astronauts, billionaires, or rock-stars. The vast majority of people are in committed relationships past a certain age. Romantic love is one of the most meaningful of human experiences, it's not a coincidence that pretty much all forms of artistic expression, from greek tragedy to pop music, are centered on it. Even if it's not strictly necessary for a happy life, everyone acknowledges it is a fundamental part of the human experience, and its lack is difficult to compensate for, which is clearly evident from how often this topic comes up and all the convoluted ways people have of coping with it.
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>>24706211
I think he meant it more ironically than that.
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>>24706126
it's really not though
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>>24706092
Yeah those things that were mentioned have gone away naturally while growing up though i continued to avoid women but that is i think for other reasons. I feel like i cant trust them cause they are so inconsistent and always change their minds, i dont know what to say in their company and i guess i was a bit scared of them. Thats why i never had a gf
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>>24706264
Well I wish you the best anon, I’m sure that a girl you’ll be able to trust and that you’ll be confortable with must exist somewhere.
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>>24705803
It’s a 19th century meme that came from romance slop. 19th century west Euros were obsessed with romance, you can see this in their literature, their philosophy, their music, even their styles of chess playing. It was just the meme zeitgeist of the time.
For their 18th century grandparents this wasn’t as important. Compared to their progeny they were much more cynical and functional about this kind of thing.
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>>24696576
Does this nigga look happy?
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>>24706339
I know the basics, i went to highschool. I just meant who and why invented the idea of romantic courting? Was there a time when women fell for that kinda thing? Were there romances before that? Im pretty sure there were. Song of songs is pretty romantic, so is romeo and juliet. It was just style of the time and popular in 19th century. And I mean is romance even natural to male female relationships? Cause what i see are pretty transactual relationships, if they are not transactual they are out of inertia, complexes, social relationships, status and even because of appearances. So where does romantic love come into play in the real world? Or does it just exist for books and screens?
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>>24706444
You honestly sound retarded. Do you have assburgers? Yes, sexual love is real, attended by thousands of counterfeits. Read Stendhal if interested in a scientific treatment
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>>24696576
Well I'd say yes normally, but I just read Little Herr Friedemann by Thomas Mann today, and I'm not sure anymore. Read it OP btw, its theme is literally your question and it's a 9/10 short story.
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>>24706517
I’ll spoil it here for those who don’t care (but seriously, go read it):
||MC is a 19th-century truecel hunchback who gets mogged by Chad and gives up on women entirely. He decides to cope with the vidya of his era: theater, literature, and classical music. Life becomes a slow burn of refined solitude—until a cute tomboy moves into town. He simps instantly. But when he finally confesses, she laughs in his face, and he ropes.||
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>>24706567
Well that's just the story of my life. He found the exact same answer as me: don't make the mistake of falling in love.
I'd say that yes, you can live a happy life without romantic love, but it has to be a choice.
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>>24702229
go back to plebbit
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>>24706517
Sorry, I’m not reading the incel masterpiece if Thomas Mann, the Zionist coward
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>>24704857
eh I decided to write to her to close it off because if she ended up with my autistic ass it would be such a downgrade that she doesn't deserve

>>24706576
That kind of love is just limerence. I know because I have it
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>>24701804
based anon. I've been in this process, and it's helped immensely.
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>>24696576
A happy life? Sure
The happiest life? Not a chance
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>>24706487
I very obviously asked whether romantic love is real, and answered that sexual love is real. Im not sure little experience you have with women( sounds like very little) but "sexual love" doesnt exist, its sexual attraction and lust. If you are fucking a woman that doesnt mean at all she is in love with you, the whole thing probably starts and ends in bed. You are equating romance with sexuality which is very retarded. So im not sure who the retard is in this scenario.
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>>24696669
kek
>pic related
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Why is getting a gf such a Herculean task.
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>>24708009
Retard doubly confirmed. Romantic love is obviously sexual in foundation. “Romantic” doesn’t even mean what you are referring to, you are literally going off American hallmark definitions and expect anyone to take you seriously. Don’t mistake your degeneracy with reality. Sexuality is metaphysical. You really think the sexual act (the only way of bringing humans into this world) has nothing to do with the “romantic love” you refer to? Retard.
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I'm pansexual and aromantic. The best combination if you're going to be weird.
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>>24696700
Yeah that’s me.
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>>24709614
you're just a bi slut. you're not special
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>>24707319
What if I really need to bust a nut in some dynamite pussy though
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>>24708503
Are you fat
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>>24710251
No, I'm below average height.
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>>24710299
So are you fit or make six figures or packing meat or are funny / famous
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>>24710317
I'm somewhat fit because I practice martial arts. Why do I need to make six figures for a girl to love me?
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>>24696576
Yes but I need to put my dick through a dick sucking machine once a week to take off pressure.
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>>24710328
https://home.uchicago.edu/~hortacsu/onlinedating.pdf
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>>24710341
Don't show me stuff like this man, I'll feel like asking /lit/ for hopepilled recommendations in a few days.
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>>24710395
>hopepilled recommendations
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>>24696576
absolutely
old people love is usually just a good friendship so if you can get some good friends along the way you'll be happy
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>>24710472
didn't that turn out to be a gold digging scammer
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>>24708696
obviously there is some kind of attraction based on appearance, young people are usually beautiful, at least the most beautiful they will ever be. you are equating romantic love with sexual attraction. romantic love is supposed to be suprasexual. obviously man who is romantically interested in a woman wants to bang her, but those other elements like appreciating her beauty, caring for her, developing a strong bond by learning about her, having romantic dates with dinner. those are the elements of romantic love that surpass the sexual attraction. sex is metaphysical, but in these times its stripped to something physical with little to no emotional attachment. i am not a degenerate, maybe you are projecting much cause you claim that love between man and a woman is solely sexual attraction. now i will stop responding to your posts cause you are insulting me without apparent reason or need which is telling of where your psyche and values and virtues ( or lack of them) are
if someone else wants to chime in about this issue feel free to do so
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>>24710503
No, they're still married and have a daughter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X96EOxaGJJ0
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>>24710942
you're grasping at Diotima's Ladder of Love without knowing what it is
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>>24711245
Yeah, you are right. I've read the 1st book of Plato's Symposium but I havent finished it yet. Thanks for this.
Plato really is the man, and I should've( like everyone else) started with the Greeks
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>>24710942
That doesn't make it any less sordid to be h
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>>24710942
>Nevermind you're totally right, you were just being mean to me on the tibetan basket weaving forum which isn't very nice
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>>24696576
Maybe.
But would YOU really want to?
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>>24696576
Dawg I love seeing her.
I love seeing her beautifully dense eyebrows against her pale skin.
I am a confident monkey of a man but I melt when I have to hold eye contact for more than a second and yet I desire her gaze so much.
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>is it possible to live a happy life

no
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yeah i am hyped up all the time i dont even need coffee or alcohol. if i got heart disease and couldnt handle all this adrenaline that i live with 24/7 i would probably just suicide by that point. i am holding in laughter basically all the time and i feel euphoric all the time, i am content with being incel because i realise life and universe works on order so ugly and retarded means no pussy then that is completely reasonable to me lol. it's like going to hell. you don't like it but deep down you know you deserve it for living a shitty life
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In ancient Rome, loving your wife was a sign of faggotry, women are meant to be bred and nothing else.
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>>24711718
Yeah well, in Rome, fucking little boys was cool and hip. You wouldn't fuck little boys, would you anon?
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>>24711693
She's probably mid
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>>24696576
I might be a 4chan user, but even I know that no woman is gonna be impressed with you if you depend on her for your happiness.
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All philosophy is rendered inert by the simple fact that you can always just kill yourself and get it all over with.

You are nothing more but an animal put on this earth to survive, eat, shit, and procreate and pass on your DNA for as long as possible. If you disagree and still cling to philosphy or religion for any more higher meaning than that then you are coping through philosphy and you don't have true free will.
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>>24696576
Yeah but you have to be essentially noble in intention and action if you are to do so. Sexual love is the death of happiness but makes a tedious existence bearable. Unless you're already on the path of a saint, I'd still recommend trying Sexual Love to fully understand how miserable it is, you kind of have to be fallen to understand anything if you aren't born with it
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>>24712223
If you live for nothing other than being an animal how can your life have any more worth than an animal. Yes you're supposed to leave your self behind because all animals seek only to have their existence reaffirmed, but if humanity degenerated to this level of existence purely in the manner of the animal they literally would have left nothing human behind, there would only be another one of the trillions of animal species, nothing constructed. I think for most that believe in art and god and human potential its simply because they have better things to do than waste their one chance at consciousness yearning for the same tedium a bacteria accomplishes without effort. The conscience and its doubt of the path of the animal in favor of a universal refinement is the only thing that makes life for the only people who do anything that lasts interesting
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Cupid shot his bow but I deflected it with my shield of reason. Woe unto the furious maidens, this dick you'll never embrace, for my arrow is for the sun alone. In the folly of my youth, I succumbed to Eros and Thanatos, upon being struck afterwards with the blow of grief. But no more shall the pale-green furrow my brow. Upon nectar and ambrosia feeds my anima, from which the mob retreats, chasing after the ephemeral lusts of the fields. Woe unto ye Maidens, I spit upon your withering flowers!
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>>24712474
>Yes you're supposed to leave your self behind
See? Even you have to kneel to the objective truth of life. Everything else you wrote was just cope and seething.

Lets say you see a 32 year old, 90 IQ 3rd worlder with a loving wife and 6 kids and the older ones are working jobs and creating a future for themselves do you think that man would not earn more respect than a 1st world 32 year old with 110 IQ but has no wife, no kids, not independent and needs financial support from his family but has a lot of knowledge on philosophy and is well read?

All the 1st world man can do is cope, make excuses and hide behind philosophical wank gymnastics meanwhile the man you call an "animal" thats just doing what humans do by nature would gather more respect and have actual results for his life.

Sometimes you try to be too smart you end up stupid.
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>>24712202
She looks like Ana Paula Arosio
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>>24712759
And is like 6ft for some reason
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Names to be forgotten within a season
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>>24696762
Exactly
Romance is a childish mentality. Women are incapable of love
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>>24696762
You have to be very weak to be threatened by a woman.
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>>24712798
>drains your bank account
>destroys your social rep
jokah laugh
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>>24699512
Despite whatever you might hear its pretty normal for women to be this way. It makes sense when you think about it.

The average man is an unhinged, insensitive creature who will probably just take your virginity and never look at you twice at best or make your life a living hell at worst. The odds of rolling a good husband for a woman are very, very low since so many men are violent drunks and criminals, and women can’t physically fight them off if they have a temper. This has always been the case in every time, era, and social class.

Women are naturally afraid because of all this and many become sexually withdrawn as a result. Its difficult for men to understand but women don’t really have a moment in early adolescence when their sexuality just clicks during puberty. They naturally remain timid, modest, and bashful. If they’re not comfortable enough with arrangements, they won’t find sex pleasurable. I’m describing a subset of women here. I understand many women are born wanton sluts and many are conditioned into being sluts through culture and birth control pills but I’m not talking about them in this post.

Your experience is pretty normal for a woman and you are unironically a well-adjusted person. Many many women scorn men and its a relatively normal thing. Frankly I consider it to be a mark of good character.



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