What is the essential difference between correlation (two events happening together) and causation (one event bringing about another)?
>>24697739hold on a second I'll ask my cat.Ok he said that basically correlation is kind of like how things are related to each other.and thencausation is more or less how things are caused by other things. he started waving and moving his paws in a little circle when explain this part.
>>24697766Your cat is so smart
Correlation means events are probably both contingent on the same event, not that one is contingent upon the other, e.g. your birth correlates with the birth of your big brother. Causation is that one event is contingent upon another event, e.g. youe birth is caused by the birth of your mother.
>>24697739>what is the essential difference between thing A (which is defined as X) and thing B (which is defined as this other, distinct thing Y)?it sounds like you've already nailed it down OP, don't know what you're asking us for
>>24697739>listening not to me but to the logos, it is wise to agree all things are onethere is no difference. perception of chronology is culturally conditioned and limits our understanding of the logos to casual structures.
essentially they're both vacuous properties because nothing ever happens
>>24697739Correlation is when two events happen at the same time, but neither event caused the other to happen. Causation is when one event directly causes another event to happen in a cause-effect chain.If I fire a gun at the same time someone buys a hot dog halfway across the state, the events are correlated by the timing, but are otherwise unrelated because neither the firing of the gun nor the purchase of the hot dog caused the other event to happen.If I fire a gun at someone buying a hot dog across the street from me and that person dies after being hit by the bullet, their death is the effect of my having fired my gun, which means my action is causally linked to that death.
>>24697739Correlation doesn't mean causation until it does.People almost always get the correlation doesn't equal causation fallacy wrong because, quite often, correlation DOES equal causation.I think the butchering of this logical fallacy is intentional because the news media is constantly gaslighting and using broken logic to mind-break normies into denying what their own senses are telling them.>>24697766Your cat is on drugs.Correlation is the logical and or rationalized connection of one event to another. It is logical (or irrational)Causation is the systemic root of an event chain.
Correlation is not equal to causation and I'm tired of pretending that it is
>>24697739Correlation is a statistical term. If you make a line graph of two phenomena and find that they both move in the same direction at the same time, you've proved correlation.Imagine you're doing a study on manatees getting killed in boating accidents between 2000-2020. Suppose you find three things:>the more Harry Potter movies there are in total, the more manatee deaths there are in total>during times when there are more human deaths in boating accidents, there are also more manatee deaths in boating accidents>when there are more boats on the water, there are more manatee deaths. when there are less boats on the water, there are less manatee deathsIn all three cases you've proved correlation. The next step, proving causation, requires you to apply your reasoning and provide a sound argument. With a little basic common sense, you'll decide that the first correlation is probably just a coincidence; there's no reason why Harry Potter movies should prompt people to kill manatees. The third correlation can be argued to indicate causation; you can easily come up with a reasonable argument that more boats = more chances for boating accidents. If necessary, you can even perform an experiment where you ban boats from certain areas with manatees and see if those areas have fewer manatees dying in boating accidents. And once you've proved that the third correlation is a case of causation, you can apply that same argument to the second correlation: more boats = more chances of human deaths in boating accidents, but there's no particular reason why a human death should cause a manatee death.
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>>24699612>quite oftenLazy, irrational assumption. You could just as easily say "quite often, correlation DOES NOT equal causation" and use this as an excuse to ignore all correlations without actually doing the work to find out if there are causal links.
