I was told this wasn't YA. I was lied to.Real people are not like this. The characterizations remind me to something like BBC's Sherlocks. Just awful. All the characters are out of a comic book. They are so unrealistic they could as well be vampires.This must have been written by a really stupid person.Discuss
Why do you think it is popular with dark academia types?
>BBC's SherlocksWhat do black men have to do with this?
>Once, over dinner, Henry was quite startled to learn from me that men had walked on the moon. “No,” he said, putting down his fork.>“It’s true,” chorused the rest, who had somehow managed to pick this up along the way.>“I don’t believe it.”>“I saw it,” said Bunny. “It was on television.”>“How did they get there? When did this happen?”
>>24700141It's ironic the only somewhat well written character is the one you're meant to hate, based on someone Tartt hated herself.
>>24700141I know people this pretentious do exist, even among brilliant people, perhaps specially among them, but the problem with this book is that real brilliant people don't behave like these characters. They are written like what Waldun or Dakota Warren would think really smart people are like. It reads like the silly aspirational fantasy of a midwit. The book could have worked had the characters felt more grounded, but even when Tartt tries to show their blind spots, like here >>24700183, it only makes them come off as even more quirky and precious.
>>24700141>Tartkek
>>24700141I'd fuck her but I'd never read her books
>the dinner with Bunny>Julian's lecture on The Bacchae>the autumn chapters in Francis' house>the yard sale part>Richard's monologue on the greek languagethis book is comfy as hell and i'll never stop loving it.
>>24700141its because she writes the men like they have women brains
>>24700141Everything about this book makes perfect sense when you find out it was inspired on Tartt's actual college, a place that didn't ask for SAT, so it was the perfect environment for the kind of narcissistic people who like to see themselves as geniuses despite not having anything to show for it.>>24700210It's really funny that Bun is the only character written somewhat like a realistic smart person, but he's portrayed like a borderline retard for having to study hard to be proficient in multiple ancient languages by his early 20s, while everyone else has an Oppenheimer tier intellect despite going to a shitty college.>>24700583This too. Everyone is such a ragging homosexual. A straight man could have never written this.
>>24700141I read it as my bedtime book, just take it for the light entertainment it is and it's pretty enjoyable.
>>24700141>t. didn't go to benningtonProbably did not go to college, certainly not a liberal art college. Not to say it is entirely accurate, but most who went to college should get the satire.
>>24700604>a place that didn't ask for SATInterview process for Bennington is rigorous and far from easy and just getting to the interview stage requires more work than SAT prep. For most people, you have to already have a degree and glowing recs from your professors to even have a chance. It is a fairly amazing school, something like 8:1 student teacher ratio and you get a ridiculous amount of one on one time with the professors. Pretty sure Donna had already gotten a degree by the time she went there.
>>24701817Our queen went there so it must be the best school in the land
>>24701801Not OP, but I went to the best liberal arts college in my country. No idea how it would rank against Bennington, but in my country the only way of getting in college is a standardized test you can only take once. It's brutal. No positive discrimination. No essay. No interview. No sob stories. If you want to get in an elite college you need a perfect grade on the test and that's it. And it was absolutely nothing like the college in this book. Julian's class and his students are so aliens to anything I experienced that I unironically thought Tartt must have come up with all of it herself. I liked it for what it was though. But it's a revelation of sorts to learn Americans are really like this. I guess American colleges are their own thing.
>>24701817Interesting, because a point one of the twins, I think, makes in the book is that Hampden accepts about anyone.
>>24701851My interview was mostly me getting grilled about my compositions by people way smarter than me. They don't ask generic questions. >>24701861That is just the attitude and a generic insult/way to validate yourself/express jealousy/etc. There is a great deal of that sort of behavior here on /lit/.
>>24700183The is actually reminds me of Sherlock Holmes when Watson first meet him and he’s startled when Holmes is ignorant of heliocentricism
>>24700141The tragedy of this book is that Bunny is such a well realized character and she has such a knack for writing him that she could have written a modern classic had he been the main character.>“And as we leave Donne and Walton on the shores of Metahemeralism, we wave a fond farewell to those famous chums of yore.”
>>24700141Yeah this book is just stupid normie slop that pretentious people with no taste think is sophisticated because it's about classics scholars
>>24700141Wow. Just to think on what we missed out. David would have been PERFECT for this. How come it never happened?
>>24701851Didn't you learn what satire is when you were in school? Guess that is what happens when the liberal arts relies on standardized testing, end up with robots who treat the liberal arts like a standardized test. What shithole are you from?
>>24703920Eurocucks, specially Germans and slavniggers, have serious trouble understanding satire. It's the reason why stuff like Twilight or 50 Shades were a massive successes here but not so much in Europe. Not defending their quality nor anything, obviously, but there was obviously a layer of satire to them that Americans got, but to eurocucks it looked like we like to read/watch dumb things and we take them straight and we like them for that. No wonder they think we're dumber despite all the best technological advances being made here. They are autists. Genuine robots. They are the people online that need to write /s at the end of their posts online to make clear they are being sarcastic, after all.
>>24703967Satire is nearly impossible to translate unless you are ok with a great deal of rewriting and a finished product that is very different from the original. It is very dependent on the culture and if you are not a part of that culture you are very unlikely to get it even if you are fluent in the language of the culture. The issue here is that the anon he was responding to explicitly said it was satire, which suggests he does not even have the most basic understanding of what satire is and likely larping, or that school he went to is complete shit. Most in the US who go to a liberal arts school are used to being the best, in all of their prior schooling they effortlessly got the straight As and lots of praise for their art, it builds an ego. This creates a certain environment in these schools and a big part of what these schools are about is showing them that their ego is built on being judged by the general population instead of their peers; that in context of their art they are actually shit, that they have been deluded into believing that everything they do is a masterpiece and can not see their work for what it is, mostly shit but having a great deal of potential. They start teaching the students this in the interview and they are fairly merciless about it.When I was doing my stint in the liberal arts, the only students there who did not already get a degree where the ones who got into a liberal arts high school and did very well. Don't recall a single student who came right from a normal high school but there were probably a few who came from private schooling, don't remember. SAT serves no purpose here, would be like asking for SAT scores for some applying to grad school. You seem like you are doing the same thing as that anon, thinly veiled "my country is best."
>>24700146haha! look at this twat! say, are you by any chance... AMERICAIN??
>>24700576For me it's the winter spent in the hippies warehouse.
>>24700141Did anyone else lose all respect for WHOREmilla, I mean Camilla, after learning she got gang banged?
>>24706768it was the only way they could escape the sewer
>>24706768No. She's literally me.>“No way could we have patched together a plausible story from this. Good Lord. It was weeks before I got over it. Camilla couldn’t even talk for three days.”>With a small chill, I remembered: Camilla, her throat wrapped in a red muffler, unable to speak. Laryngitis, they’d said.>“Yes, that was very strange,” said Henry. “She was thinking clearly enough, but the words wouldn’t come out right. As if she’d had a stroke. When she started to speak again, her high-school French came back before her English or her Greek. Nursery words. I remember sitting by her bed, listening to her count to ten, watching her point to la fenêtre, la chaise …”>Francis laughed. “She was so funny,” he said. “When I asked her how she felt she said, ‘Je me sens comme Hélène Keller, mon vieux.’ ”That passage always gets me. I do be like that. Oui.
