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>"And since sleep is is-not and rain and wind are was, it is not. Yet the wagon is, because when the wagon is was, Addie Bundren will not be. And Jewel is, so Addie Bundren must be. And then I must be, or I could not empty myself for sleep in a strange room. And so if I am not emptied yet, I am is."
This is absolutely dreadful to read.
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>>24702391
This is absolute gold to read. I loved it
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Why?
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>>24702402
Because anon isn't was when emptying to read. If he wasn't is, then maybe he wouldn't be when he reads beneath the strange ceiling.
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Do you think the stream of thought of a semiliterate boy in grief should be, generally speaking, a fun experience?
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>>24702459
>by this anon achieves a variation. By knowing not where anon is and subtracting anon from where he was anon is...
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Anse should've disciplined him for auguring holes in the top of the casket. I wanna hear his stream of consciousness while his dad beats the shit out of him for being such a little goddamn weirdo.
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>>24702459
Problem is Faulkner's sentence makes perfect sense given the context of what preceded it.
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>>24702501
Anse may have sweated and killed himself from the effort, he simply could NOT discipline him, for the sake of his health. He would have to get Vernon's help for it.
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>>24702391
>And since sleep is is-not and rain and wind are was, it is not
Absolutely pretentious
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>>24702521
Why's that?
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>>24702522
Why is is-not how it is. Why is is that is not.
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>>24702524
Because it makes perfect sense within the context of the chapter.
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>>24702528
Stop falling for that
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>>24702536
Ok lets just have no conversation and the thread dies since no one has actually read the book.
Useless board is /lit/.
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>>24702539
I’ll give you that that nobody actually reads in /lit/.
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>>24702539
I love the book and I'm down to discuss the style with anyone. I think it's great. Imagining more conventional manners of expressing grief just seems silly to me now, like a whole chapter of a kid saying "I can't believe my mother just died! Such tragedy..."
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>>24702549
>Imagining more conventional manners of expressing grief just seems silly to me now
My goodness, man. Writing is about conventionality. You can play around it sure, but that it what it is in the end. Writing is always in the past, it is never in the present. You choose things to show and things to redact. Even there Faulkner is doing that. You think nobody else in the ancient past ever thought of writing like that or putting it into speech like that? Don’t be a style goblin.
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>>24702501
wasn't that Vardaman and not Darl
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>>24702569
Yes, but the friction is the point. I like all kinds of styles of prose, but I can also imagine an argument against the beauty of grief in literature. As new technologies and new collective traumas appeared, with even just systems of language being picked apart by scholars, I think literature was simply an expression of all those changes. Words fail.
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>>24702474
I haven't read this yet, but it sure does sound like a trip.
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>>24702549
This. I attended a funeral recently and boy was it banal. All the weeping and mourning with not a single person playing with form.
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>>24702391
This is literally the only such section in the book. The rest of the book is very readable.
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>>24702653
People find comfort in commonly approved, shared rituals! It can help to "make sense of tragedies," which implies that one's mind is not strong enough to do that on its own. So what if you still pinpoint it and force it to try?
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>>24702594
Vardaman was just as fucking crazy as Darl. "Oh he was just mad with grief" that's bullshit. kids parents die all the time and they don't go on about how their mom has turned into a fish and start trying to poke holes in her casket so she can breathe. Breathe what vardaman? If she's a fish, she'd need water in her casket, you stupid fuck. I know they didn't have schools in youwillneverbeawoman County but fuck man come on.
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>>24702691
He was poking holes in the coffin so that the rain water from the window he kept trying to open after the family would close it that was raining on her which is why they put her in the coffin in the first place would get on her. His logic is sound buddy.
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>>24702391
The Vardaman sections were absolutely baffling. No kid would talk like that no matter how retarded he is
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>>24702667
>“What’s a funeral.” Jason said. “Didn’t mammy tell you not to tell them.” Versh said. “Where they moans.” Frony said. “They moaned two days on Sis Beulah Clay.”
>“Oh.” Caddy said, “That’s niggers. White folks dont have funerals.”
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>>24702704
Have you considered he was actually a genius?
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>>24702391
Faulkner is one of the great pseud filters
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Covert cuck thread
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>>24703025
Elaborate.
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>>24702778
How?
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>>24702501
>auguring holes in the top of the casket
>Darl



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