Is employment the biggest scam in the history of the world? If you think about it for even one second you will realize it is actually impossible to 'sell' your 'labor'. In any normal exchange I give you something and you give me something in return. But when you 'sell your labor' you actually do not offer anything to anyone. The company gives you everything and receives nothing. You get a salary AND you get a job. Every day at work the company HAS work for you to do. You have nothing to offer and bring nothing with you to exchange. >but why would the company hire you if they get nothing in return?Essentially because by giving you everything (money, work to do) they become a creditor. The work you do and the money you receive are not correlated. It is only the hubris of the employee to think so. "I am getting paid well because I am valuable." This is what they tell themselves, because they do not want to face the fact that the company is simply giving them money. "But that's money that I earn!" It is simply not the case. Every time you receive a paycheck you become a debtor. You HAVE to go to work because you are indebted. You are a slave. The point of exchanging is to have done with one another. In order to establish a long-term relationship such as 'employment' something besides exchange is therefore needed. The most effective way to do this is to oblige someone to life-long servitude by generously granting them a 'living wage'.
>>24703998Fuckssake sonne read length of the working day.
leftism is so fucking dumb lmao
>>24703998When the Aryans set into the world, fully armored inside their chariot war tanks, they found these masses of hunter gatherers and enslaved them to do all work. The effects of early slavery were equal to the ones caused by mass consumer industrialization and especially electric mechanization. They became foul and lazy and unused to hard work.Then at some point the slaves took revenge upon the Aryans, a revenge they had planned from the first hour they became slaves, and sort of re-conquered their ancestral homeland from the xenophyte Aryans.New, more hidden forms of oppression had to be invented in order to get the masses working. But their hidden despise for the Aryan makes it impossible to make these innovations permanent. At some point the non-Aryans always revolt, because work is contrary to their nature.Logically, the end game of social revolutions is to erase the last trace left by the Aryan race. Socialism will occur, and under it, work will only exist as an institution for as long as the last Aryans still have the energy to oppress the masses. Industry, agriculture and the government will be gradually abolished, and the humans will return to their primitive roots and live like ooga boogas again.
Time is priceless don't give it away easily
>>24703998You've clearly never had a real job
No, work is how things are accomplished. The most fundamental economic activity of human civilization is agriculture. It literally puts food on your table. You could argue that some economic activity is superfluous or downright harmful. Usury, speculation, drug dealing, pornography, all of which are Haram. Yet work is the basis of human society itself. I've scraped a living working in illegal conditions doing the work society needs, like building roads and homes. Am an actual working class man, and I've read Marx as well. Communism is evil, it leads to systemic genocide and enslavement of Muslims and Christians. My Ummah in China picks slave cotton for the corporate profits of American fashion brands and Beijing is undeniably zionist occupied.Starting a business and seeking self-employment in order to adapt to economic conditions and employment discrimination has caused me to reflect on this as well, employment and labor, profit and power dynamics. Between sociopathic WEF billionare and church bombing USSR communist I think there is room to be a good and honest man. The small family farms that dot the hills of Appalachia are legally considered to be small businesses and many of their owners succeed by their own honest toil. In contrast, my ancestors were illiterate sharecroppers who were continuously exploited by dishonest merchants and landlords.To say that work is a fraud is a lie, and to say that hard work makes one rich is also a lie. Otherwise, the child workers in the mines of the Congo would be billionaires. Luxury? I despise it. Nabi Muhammad, salallahu alayhi wa salam, lived in a small home without any signs of luxury. It was in his power to live like a rich man, but he refused it in order to do right by the poor. He was himself an illiterate orphan by upbringing.The question remains: What can be done about the oppression of the rich? I believe the answer is in Islam. The Koran and Sunnah, the Shariah, provides the blueprint of a society where everyone is sheltered and fed, where the rich are under a mandatory and proportional tax ordained by God to give to the poor, and where the oppressed are commanded by God to fight their oppressor and destroy tyranny.
>>24704016I, for one, support the Koreans. Reactivate the Giza Mass Autism Array now.
>>24704003>that image
UBI when
>>24703998>You HAVE to go to work because you are indebted.If this were the case, I would receive the paycheck before having done the work.
>>24703998I'll let you in on a little secret anonThe problem was never about Capitalism. It was always about Labor Economics, and Marx has doomed Radical Leftist rhetoric by believing that Labor Economics will solve everythingRifkin had the good sense to sniff out this bullshit even if he never said anything explicitly about it. Labor will always conflict with technological progress, and any truly socialist system will have to either embrace primitivism or to reject economics rooted in labor altogether
>>24704540The paycheck and the work are not correlated. Both are given to the worker without him offering anything in exchange. I am as much indebted for their 'having work for me' as for their providing me with wages, whose correlation with 'hours worked' is a formality. If you look closely at the average worker, you will see that he goes to work not only because he receives a paycheck but because he feels obligated on account of their having something for him to do. They have work for him, there are tasks to be done, and on that day he is being given to perform them. They are not his tasks in the sense that he owns them or can dispose of them, but that they are given to him to perform. He feels obligated to go to work, not for the money but because the company has generously provided him with things to do. He is exalted by the fact that a task is given to him, that he alone can do it, that it can belong to him to perform. He feels virtually that it is his calling or duty, something special given to him, and therefore that he owes it (to God, to himself, to whatever) to do it. Why does he work during his lunch (when he is off-the-clock and not being paid)? Why does he think about work during off-hours or go to work social events? Why is he virtually obligated to give two-weeks-notice? Why does he take special care to do a good job when his work will certainly go unrecognized? Because he is thankful, because he feels blessed, because he feels obligated to live up to the gifts that are showered upon him. "I love this company."
>>24703998/lit/ is the dumbest fucking board I swear to god
>>24704693This is only somewhat true for elite level workers in niche fields, who are only grateful that they don't have to go plough a field or something, and their specialized skillset is still in demand.Ploughers of fields still charge per unit of field ploughed.
>>24704729"Unproductive" and "productive" workers. Or high rate of profit and low rate of profit. Or low labour supply and high labour supply.
>>24704746Not exactly sure what you're saying there. But yeah, looking at the animal kingdom, it's pretty insane how we've figured out a system where most of us can spend their days on meaningless tasks and still somehow get fed.
>>24703998So agreeing to bash in a fence posts across a bunch of fields and dig ditches so his animals can't escape or be eaten by wolves in exchange for money/food/things by your reckoning is a complete one way gift? The labourer hasn't given anything to the farmer?What retard world logic is this?The labourer is being paid because what his labour creates is needed by the farmers, thus has value, thus he pays him for it.fucks sake
>>24704761Over a long period of time you can make a "Doctor" a starvation job, like in the USSR in 1980 by feminisation, or in the US by 2020 by degree price inflation.
>>24703998>Is employment the biggest scam in the history of the world?Yeah we’re supposed to be farming on our own land
No, money is the biggest scam in human history, and I'm fully convinced that if we stopped with centralized forms of money overnight, either nothing would happen, or society might even thrive, due to local communities reconnecting with one another
>>24703998So why do you want to make anons say labour has value?
>>24703998Baudrillard offered a number of highly fractured views on this. He thought most employment had devolved into a security exchange. He also was of the opinion that you only become a slave when you take possession of your own finances and future, but it couldn't be forced on you, basically your boss transfers the master status to you and if you accept then you're the slave but the boss was also a slave and the master part was only in your head, it inevitably becomes more difficult to convince someone to do this on their own rather than paying someone else to do it for you, which is also a type of security exchange. The slave technically still has more power. He also was of the opinion that there will always be some people who just want to commit suicide to rob the system of any ability to say it has refined itself to a point where no one will want to commit suicide. In response the system will have to accept concessions and offer voluntary suicide options to make itself look accommodating. The irony of this is that it won't change the opinion of the people it's supposed to but just get utilized by people the system has already chewed up.
>>24704215When the world population is much smaller and culture is more homogenized.
>>24703998>oblige someone to life-long servitudeYou can quit a job, as you'd know if you'd ever had one.Trust-fund babies are a pox on the world.
No, religion is. Employment gets the silver medal.
>>24704770If only it were so simple. If only in finding work nowadays it were only a matter of, "I do a job, you give me money." Alas, employers are not simply buying your labor. If you pay me to set up the fence posts, if I don't do the work, if I don't finish the job, no matter how much time I've spent moving the posts around, you will not pay me. The deal was that I set up the posts. But you and I both know that today's employers have nothing to do with buying labor. When 'workers' goes go around shopping for 'a job' nowadays they are in the position of the consumer. They shop around for benefits, for paid-vacation, for 'flex-days', for 'work-culture', You choose a job that 'suits you', that fits your 'personality', that will accommodate your unique needs, your 'talents' and give you a satisfying 'work-life balance'. Then you select the best option. You apply, you hope you get chosen. If anything, you should be paying them. The more desirable the job, the more desirable the benefits, the workplace accommodations, the 'salary', the more you ought to have to pay. But instead, you get to do it for free. You get your free lunch services, your work social activities, access to the workplace buffet, the coffee bar. You get employee discounts. Does this sound at all like your fence-post exchange? What are we talking about here? They are selling you a whole lifestyle, they are supporting your entire life, they are accommodating all your needs, helping you get life insurance, child support, mental and physical health services. What happened to, "I do job. You give money"? I thought we were talking about a simple exchange here. You're telling me they are selling you on 'work-life balance' AND they are paying you a salary? What on earth do you do for them? You give them your time? You 'work' forty hours a week? You only think they are simply 'buying your labor'. It is much more, anon. They want you in their debt.
>>24703998this guy is right and everyone is coping because you are wagies down to your very soul
>>24703998>You have nothing to offer and bring nothing with you to exchangeThis is 4chan NEET ignorance or cope. You're hired based on your skills. So, you bring your experience and expertise on a certain domain to the table.Secondly, it is the employer who is in debt coz he has to pay workers regardless of business performance. You're retarded. I bet you thought you were real smart coming up with this bullshit
>>24704693More dumb NEET logic. People enjoy the sense of community and fulfilment from getting work done>inb4 he gives me dystopia America reason for why there's no community at work
>>24706899>You only think they are simply 'buying your labor'. It is much more, anon. They want you in their debt.And in what form do we pay this debt?
>>24708873OP here, sorry, I was a bit drunk when I made this post. I just wanted to troll with a shitpost. None of the ideas I've posited make any sense.
>>24704016Where do you retards even get this garbage from?
>>24704215Immediately prior to the collapse of civilisation.
>>24708873If the worker were merely being exploited the situation would be less dire. Today's worker has not only been alienated from the products of his labor: he has been alienated from production as a whole. There would be more dignity in exploitation, but our worker, who is now not even paid for his production but for his 'time', his mere presence, is coddled and pandered to like some kind of buffoon. He is not allowed to work unless he is 'on-the-clock'. He cannot be allowed to be productive on his own terms—he must be reliably unproductive. The flattery is so one-sided he is convinced of a multitude of 'rights' in the workplace, of access to services to ensure his mental and physical well-being, medication, a satisfactory 'work-life balance', &c. And it is entirely to the purposes of the employer that the worker should believe that he is adequately compensating his employer with his time. "We value all the hard work you do." If anything he believes his employer deserves less of his 'productivity'. "I get paid by the hour." He is so entitled, so detached from 'productivity'. What does the word even mean? What is the importance of his work? Who does it serve? He cares nothing for this. He's only there because the company puts 'free money' in his 401k, because his family needs 'benefits'. >And in what form do we pay this debt?You will pay off your debt in the only collateral that remains to you—your life.
Employment is slow death. That's why Baudy advocated gambling
>>24703998t. unemployed retard
