How can such a genuinely terrible author be so popular?
>>24707428>How can such a genuinely terrible author be so popular?JD Salinger and Roald Dahl are popular.
>>24707428Stephen King is a good author>but he’s a hecking pedofork!And?
>>24707440>Stephen King is a good authorLow IQ trash detected.
>>24707440If he's a good author then why are all of his books boring slop?
Stephen King is easily in the top 1% of living book writers. You must remember you aren’t comparing Shakespeare as the average. Also keep in mind that whether an author is Isaac the Syrian or the Marquis de Sade, it doesn’t impact the quality of their work or lack thereof
>>24707484But his books are SLOP. It's literary SLOP.
>>24707428maybe he's in the club, ever consider that?https://rumble.com/v1d6b4v-corporate-world-domination-and-alien-mind-control-part-3.html?e9s=src_v1_cbl%2Csrc_v1_ucp_a
>>24707440>Actually thinking Stephen King is a good author Unironically neck yourself
>>24707489>this boomer slop slinger is better than that other boomer slop slingerwow
>>24707447>>24707470>>24707488>Rarara I get me opinions from 20th century critics that sucked off forgotten slop, me very intelligentStephen King is goodIT is kinoFictional child orgies are basedCope about it
>>24707493kek based>>24707495kys pedo
>>24707495>he's good because he catered to muh fetish onceis this your only argument
>>24707485Even so if you took him and compared 99 random people writing today (that’s just including published, if we went with unpublished then 999 would be a better batch), the odds are very very high that you would find his writing to be the best of the bunch
>>24707514His popularity says a lot about the average American consumer
>>24707517As opposed to the amazing works of literature topping the charts in secondary languages
>>24707428I don't like King but that criticism comes from people who have no idea about literature or art, soulless NPCs.
>>24707498Teenage me loved "Needful Things", but everything else of his I've read has been so shit by comparison.
/lit/s endless bitching, pissing, moaning and crying about a man that's 1000x times as relevant, successful, or smart as they'll every be will never not be amusing. Y'all should try crying about it on 4chan, you miserable little bitches. Try writing a better, more successful book, please. You're wasting time.
>>24707557You need to cream inside Elvis.
Because the culture is degenerate and rewards degeneracy.The President of the United States openly promotes sodomy as a virtue and is blackmailed with child rape.If such a culture rejects me for being a Muslim, well, thank God! What a relief. Yes, thank you for separating me from this wickedness and shame.Let's build a Halal culture of tradition, artistic merit, intellectual worth, refreshing purity and goodness. Let's preserve what is worth preserving and reject self-destructive secularism.
>>24707439Roald Dahl is a perfectly fine children's author
>>24707428Even if the list isn't real, the island was definitely real and all of the physical evidence minus the blackmail material was destroyed
>>24707676>Roald Dahl is a perfectly fine children's authorYes, he is a perfectly fine children's author. That's about the only dimension of being I'd trust him in relation to children about.
>>24707534>smartI agree about the other things, but this is plainly fucking wrong. If he were smart, his books would be better, structurally, and prose wise. His books aren't really thought out - he has interesting premises that are being let down by Hollywood tier structural development. >Enticing opening scene>Gradual development of the source of evil>A little reprieve>An explanation of what the evil is>Straight to a final confrontation, which usually has a powerful time limit to keep the blood pumpingHis books are boring because the follow, more or less, the scheme above>It>Murder clown>Further adventures of the murder clown and gradual revelation of the nature of the murder clown>Once that is over, the final climax>Tommycknockers>UFO in the ground>Gradual revelation of the nature and effect of the UFO in the ground>Once that is over, the UFO is explored from the inside, the final climax>Desperation (literally IT-lite)>Murder cop>Gradual revelation of the murder cop and the tragedy in town>Once that is finished, the final battle>Black House>Child kidnap and child murders>Detective style revelation and investigation into the nature of the child murders>After the all questions ending palavers with a nigger, it's showdown time>Institute>Child kidnap and torture>Gradual exploration and explanation of the facility>A short reprieve where the last of information is gathered>Final stand>Outsider>Child murder>Detective investigation into the child murder>Once the dots are connected, the final showdown>Duma's Key (Black House-lite)>Horror from painting>Gradual investigations into the horror>That finished, final act>Insomnia>Old guy gets insomnia and starts seeing alternate reality>The nature of what he's seeing is explained>Final showdownIt gets very tiring, and that's before talking about the recurring characters (the fat gossip woman from Salem''s Lot reoccurs in Tommycknockers and Under the Dome; some corrupt business from Salem's Lot reoccurs in the Black House and Under the Dome; Richie from IT reincarnates into a blind DJ in Black House, down to the zesty personality; some 11 year old version of Bill Denbrough is present in almost all books; IT and the cop from Desperation speak in the same style)And the books suffer from deep issues, too, born from the writing at the edge of the seat instead of trying to think things through and make it coherent internally.
>>24707723Take IT.In essence it's Colour Out of Space with more child murder.What's a more intelligent and interesting take on the story? People realized there's something wrong with the town and try find out what it is (several Derry people wake up out of stupor and are questioning things).An outside police force investigates Derry due to some incongruity and gradually uncovers deep evil (Think Lovecraft; think Twin Peaks)Kids battle an ancient evil.Then some details in IT doesn't make any fucking sense and King relies on very cheap tricks to hand wave the clusterfuck he created. >IT helds everyone in thrall apart from kids; and from all the kids only 7 managed to figure things out because...because they were destined and had the protection of the TurtleAs an aside, the book would've been better if the kids were older - from 14 to 16 - instead of literal prepubescent retards. >Derry is the most violent town in America but...but It clouds it from federal forces>Maine police doesn't question and give a fuck about kids dying because...because of Its power>Bill changing character in the climax because...because the Turtle possessed him>The gangbang because... because it's unites the two split narratives in some way, like the glass corridor between two library wings that was a symbol and not just an architectural detail, and question the murder of kids, the murders, not the fact of a 30 or something man writing preteens fuckinThe reason King is popular is because, of all writers, he found a way to join the world of the Hollywood screen, relatable to everyone, with the written world. Reading his books is like watching a Hollywood horror or action movie.
Yawn. Let's see what you have written that has sold millions of copies
>>24707723>It gets very tiring, and that's before talking about the recurring charactersTo be fair Stephen King has written like a million booksHe’s published 1.27 books a year on average since he started. And that’s also considering since the 2000s when his output relaxed massively. Just as a matter of probability sooner or later there’s going to be more than a few recycled characters.
>>24707699tf
>>24707630So sick of your kind. Go away.
>>24707498That reminds me i gotta watch the film adaptation of Christine this Halloween with my best friend
>>24707878I did the math and before 2000 he was publishing 1.69 books a year on average
What can't /lit/ appreciate unpretentious writers?
>>24707630You're partially right but sorry, I have to break with you at the end there, fuck Islam.>>24707887Dilate tranny, go be a pedo loving kike somewhere else, and you will never be a real woman.>>24707727Your inherent measure of success is how many worthless goybucks someone can make off of slinging slop to the masses in a hyperconsumerist society, you're not even worth engaging with as a human being, you are beneath me as a human being.
>>24707976Cringe
>>24707903It'd be the child raping.
>>24707996>Did you just hecking RAPE that fictional character that you made up?!
>>24707996And what about McCarthy, the literal child rapist?
>>24708003As opposed to the other literal child rapists named here? He can write.
>>24708004Great so your argument has changed. "I must always be right". That your game?
>>24708020>I'm talking to one personYou're new here.
>>24707723good job proving the post you're responding to 100% right lol. all this intellectual energy wasted on convincing yourself you're secretly better than the successful person in some abstract made-up way. "MY bestselling novels, if i had any, would be better thought-out"
>>24707995Kike
>>24708060kys
>>24707903King isn't unpretentious no matter how much he pretends to be. He's got the typical 70s free love brainrot where he thinks sex is the most profound and moving thing in the world and gets laughably flowery whenever he talks about it. He'll have his self-insert piss and moan about how he's a poor little oppressed pulp author being kept down by the heckin pretentious literati, and then later in the same book he'll write a child gangbang in the most flowery, psuedo-deep prose imaginable like he thinks he's a french arthouse director. It's dishonest.
>>24708107Has there ever even been a French art house director that brave?
>>24707903I'm bewildered that you actually think King is unpretentious lol.
>>24707976You worship a literal pedophile.
>>24708142What's my religion then, retard? Why don't you learn to read? Fucking illiterate kike.
>>24708167What the fuck, where did you get that from? Trump is a puppet, I'm not even American and have hated Trump since the day he announced his bid to enter politics, you're retarded.
>>24708182burgers arent that sharp. they pick a team and become NPC finger puppets
>mogs king in horror shit
>>24707976Cry about it, bitch
>>24708190Evidently!>>24708824I don't take orders from pedo kikes.
>>24709027Maybe you should try crying about it in 4chan
>>24707428Because he may not be the greatest writer, but he is (was) a spectacular storyteller.
>>24707440Thankyou for your work, Rabbi
>>24709266what's it like being sexually mutilated at birth you kike freak?
>>24709639Keep crying you fucking megatroon
>>24708003He sucks too.
>>24709648Crying? I'm laughing at you. I don't care what kikes think about me.
>>24707428glad to see sane takes on 4ch>he is a pedophilesometimes people are plain ignorant or don’t care. that’s just how the world is>his novels are boringyou’ll notice that lots of mainstream bestsellers are poorly written, boring, or poorly written and boring. one way to see it is that the crowd tends to like what others seem to like in order to fit in. another is that /lit/ enjoys being different and hates modern media. good writing is defined by the crowd in the period you live in, cope. if this is what’s considered good these days it must be good. you bunch of misfits.
>>24707630Every Muslim guy I've met seems like a turbo degenerate. Hyper materialistic, obsessed with sex, and flagrantly disregarding even the most basic Islamic restrictions.
>>24707428
>>24707428What authors do you guys even consider good? Within horror if that's what you want to talk about.
>>24710663Clive BarkerLaird BarronKarl Edward WagnerBrian Lumley John LanganNancy CollinsAnd these are just 21st century/late 20th century horror authors.
>>24710663I don't really read horror all that much to be honest but probably Poe and Hawthorne. While not horror Milan Kundera would be an author I consider good. King just doesn't come close. He writes literary slop.
>>24710663If Patrick White saved your life and got you back with your ex wife its alright.
>>24707630>blackmailed with child rape.I guess it's only bad that he didn't marry them first, right?
>>24710787>I guess it's only bad that he didn't marry them first, right?Of course. Cormac McCarthy married 'em first.Who were you talking about? I'm talking about the Poet who was Inspired by God and gave us the toolkit for proper living. Cormac McCarthy.
>>24707428Because he got killed in a van crash and replaced by a doppelganger.
>>24707699Roald Dahl was a beautiful Norwegian man not a Jew. I have visited the Roald Dahl Museum and read and listened to all of his books constantly in childhood and he was a great man.
>>24707724>King is popular bcuz HollywoodThis, this and so much this.Ask the average normie who an author is, and they'll say King, Rowling, GRR Martin. Then ask them to name an author NOT connected to Hollywood and watch them be silent for a minute and start to get upset.
>>24707510In that case, he's no different from you guys
>>24710634I read that one recently (a gift), that's not the weirdest part. The hero rescues a drugged rape victim (who's 21 but looks 14 - important plot point), during the rescue it's raining and the hero's boxers get wet, he can't help them slipping down, so carries her in the nude into his basement apartment, then undresses her, examines her bleeding vagina, puts her in bed, then decides he needs to get in the bed with her to prevent hypothermia and wakes up with an erection. She instantly trusts him as a father figure, so he goes and tortures the 'MAGA rapists' for her while wearing a Melania Trump mask.For all that the book is a remarkably boring and saccharine lib boomer fantasy.
>>24707470Because believe it or not all of his genre fiction contemporaries are sloppier and boringer
A tweet he never sent and a scene he never wrote. Nice.
>>24710838lol that’s actually kind of hilariously bad. there’s a few books I like, but when one of his characters go off on a lib rant it’s pretty eye rolling. but that takes the cake.
>>24707699What even is there to dislike about Dahl?
>>24711346During WW2 he worked as a spy in the US. His job was to cultivate negative opinion toward Hitler among the American elite in order to move them closer to actively joining the war. Despite the above he still gets throttled as an anti-Semite.
>>24711346Good questions. I got the collection recently for my girlfriend who loves reading them as a kid. Just something to read together. His stuff is pretty good. Some of it is hilariously tragic. Like in BFG they don’t actually save people from being eating. Mostly they just try to prevent future kids and people from being eating. Also, in Charley and the Chocolate Factory, Charley’s dad loses his job and Charley has to stop playing during recess because he’s starving so badly he realizes he’ll die if he doesn’t conserve his energy. The turtle one that old dude straight up tricks turtle bitch into marrying him because she thinks he’s magic. His writing is good, but it’s wild I didn’t realize how crazy some of the situations were.
>>24707630Sounds fantastic. Maybe go and do so in one of the countries your desert religion originates from. There you are together with like-minded people, doesn't that sound refreshing
>>24707534>praises King>y'allDelicious
>>24711761Y'all
>>24707630If I convert to Islam, do I get a child bride? Or do I have to be Middle Eastern?
What do we think of Trump's poetry?
Holy Cow. This movie was so good. I read the book first then watched the movies this year. The movie is way more scary than the book and it cuts out all the shitty parts. Some of the adult returning stuff was okay, but it was mostly lame and keeping just the kids story like the Goonies was kind of genius. Whoever wrote this and Carrie did fucking phenomenal jobs of taking Kings works and making them actually more entertaining. Stephen King kind is great at shitting out crazy raving plots and characters. I think these screenplays refining his work shows how could the core ideas are or could be.
>>24711902That said It Part 2 the movie was just okay. I think it’s a skip.
>>24707440this separate the art from the artistlibbys cant do that for hitler
>>24711902>>24711905I liked It Part 1 a lot more than the 90s miniseries. Don't care much to see part 2.
>>24707428My only explanation (from what little I've read of him) is that he's more of an "ideas" guy than anything else. His writing is mediocre, his dialogue sucks, most of his characters are 2-dimensional, but he's good at coming up with bizarre ideas that capture the public's imagination and translate well to the screen
>>24707630>you know who doesn't touch kids? sandniggers!this is why I come here
>>24707495>IT is kinoYes>Fictional child orgies are basedNeck yourself
>>24711949>translate well to the screenI like King but no
>>24707630>Let's build a Halal culture of tradition, artistic merit, intellectual worth, refreshing purity and goodness.It would be for the first time
>>24707428Because the average reader is a terrible reader /thread
>>24707447Based
>>24710634Was mentioning breasts here really a necessary detail to paint the scene?
According to the state of Texas Stephen King's cp literature either doesn't offend community standards, or has serious literary value. Make of that what you will.
>>24711878best stuff Nancy Pelosi's aides ever wrote lmao
>>24707428Isn't she (Kingress) right, though? Why would a pedophile known for his secrecy have an incriminating list with all of his clients?
>>24713093Texas is a left-wing hellhole now, so I'm not surprised they love it.
>>24713098The law is the Miller Test restated, I guess.basically, it's not obscene if it's serious or ok with the community. so it establishes 2 Americas, thw rich have the rich people cp like Lucian Freud's paintings (very serious) and the poor have Stephen King, I guess.
>>24711878The signature is a nice touch.
>>24707440I liked this argument better when it was Harvey Weinstein because he was actually a good producer. Stephen King is fanfiction.net tier. He is famous because Boomers have fucking terrible taste.
Boomers liked him because they have shit taste. Non boomers pretend to like him because he’s an established brand and they are npcs. Objectively he writes the literary equivalent of popcorn
>>24713199i think the real difference is that you don't care about being a hollywood producer but you do wish you were a bestselling writer so you feel the compulsion to cope with your envy by calling him fanfiction-tier when he demonstrably isn't. pure ressentiment
