I've recently encountered something mind boggling.So, I made a post recently, and someone called me an ESL user... but I really can't see what made him say that. Unless I'm missing something, this is peak irony. The thread is archived now, so I can't ask him, much to my dismay.Is there anything wrong with the way this post is structured? /g/>>106520742
>>24709666Dammit!How do I redirect to another board? This is not something I do often, this whole thing is blown...
I don't know about ESL but I know that you are a newfag.
>>24709670And you have made the most predictable post possible.
>>24709672Shouldn't have set it up then
>all that matters ... is how you're are doing it
>>24709675I don't care. I took a gamble, and lost.Are you happy now? Do you want to not tell me how to do it the right way? (Answer: Yes!)
>>24709678Wait no, the little shit faggot made the mistake himself while quoting you. Nevermind you found a bigger ESL
>>24709679Yes to both
>>24709678>>24709681Oh shit, I didn't even see that. This is even more ironic now. How did he fuck it up this bad? XD
>>24709690Conglaturation! You win internet points!Now get up on stage and accept your Emmy!
>>24709668Three >.>>>106520742
>>24709697Forgot the /g/ :)>>>/g/106520742
>>24709692A classic self-own while phoneposting (makes it harder to quote somebody so people end up just retyping everything). Many such cases.>>24709697Dumb and dumber lol
>>24709696Thank you every nyan
>>24709701If the 4chan's search function wasn't completely broken, I would've been able to find another example of this already.It's all Moot's fault.>But Moot doesn't own it anymore...Then it's Asian Moot's fault!
>>24709702>A classic self-own while phoneposting (makes it harder to quote somebody so people end up just retyping everything). Many such cases.Lol, he can't just copy and paste!? XDI still don't know what else he was referring to, though.>Dumb and dumber lolAnother sequel?
>>24709704You are willkommen.
>>24709701>>24709707>If the 4chan'sFuck, now I've done it to myself. It's all over, we could've had it all...
>>24709712>Lol, he can't just copy and paste!? XDWell it's all cramped on the phone's screen. If you want to quote two different parts you can only copy-paste once before the text box blocks the screen. So he probably copy-pasted the first part, then forgot to do so for the second part.>I still don't know what else he was referring to, though.Probably had a problem with you using "you are" and "you're" instead of sticking to a single one. Or maybe he thought that you shouldn't use "how" after "what" for some unknown ESL reason
>>24709731>Probably had a problem with you using "you are" and "you're" instead of sticking to a single one.There are no rules about this having to remain consistent. In addition, isn't it considered better to avoid repetitiveness?
>>24709755I wouldn't say using "you're" twice in a row is repetitive. And no, it's not a rule either. I'm just trying to understand his thought process.>You’re going to the store, and you are picking up groceries, right?vs>You’re going to the store, and you’re picking up groceries, right?One sounds slightly more natural than the other, but it doesn't matter either way. The first one could be used for emphasis though.>You’re going to the store, and you *are* picking up groceries, right?Anyways, you're good from my point of view. But maybe I'm just retarded.
>>24709668>>24709701dumb and dumber
>>24709775>I wouldn't say using "you're" twice in a row is repetitive.I wouldn't say that either, I didn't even consider this when writing that.To me, it's usually three or more times of using the same word when it starts to sound repetitive.
>>24709779Why are you still here?
ESL is not just a matter of grammatical correctness. In fact, insisting on correct grammar in situations where native speakers would break it can be more of a telling sign than anything else.ESLs fixate on the rules, as they usually lack experience talking to native speakers and listening to their conversations. They could have flawless grammar, but they often use very stilted language that betrays their ESL status anyway. You need to realize that you probably have better grammar than most native speakers, but it doesn’t matter since most native speakers think people who fixate too much on the rules of speech are nerds. Going around correcting grammar and speaking like a robot will get you ostracized faster than if you just spoke in broken English.
>>24709788i just opened the thread?
>>24709801I was just trying to figure out what the hell that idiot meant, I still can't find anything definitively wrong with it.Of course he got saved by the thread being archived, now he can't be put on the spot for being a moron.
>>24709805Someone made the same exact comment earlier, you probably saw it already.
>>24709805Yeah, what this guy said.Fuck you buddy. This ain't your thread.
>>24709815bruh no i didn't what a coincidence>>24709819yea fuck that guy not cool man not cool!
>>24709850>bruh no i didn't what a coincidenceSorry bro, that's all you have now, that's all you are, and that's all you will ever be... >>24709702 >>24709779>yea fuck that guy not cool man not cool!He was talking about you, this is literally my thread.
If you bother with rules then you're doing language learning wrong. You should ONLY use comprehensible input and real conversations.
>>24709910This is the curse of making a mistake in the OP post, and now no one will ever see how much I didn't fuck it up.
>>24709666>>24709701>what say youwhile entirely correct, I suspect this is what made him call you an ESL, because he isn't familiar with this archaic word order
>>24709950Lol, he didn't even quote it as a reason >>>/g/106522486The thing I don't understand is why he dropped "to us". I figured that was his reason, but it still makes no sense even if he thought that.
>>24709965yeah, then I don't get it
>>24709910>You should ONLY use comprehensible input and real conversations.tell me you've never learned any langauge without telling me
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>>24710067Show any other method that has the results of ALG. If you aren't as good as a native then you haven't learned the language. Textbook fags think ordering a coffee and memorising 1000 flashcards is learning a language - it isn't.
>>24709666>what you are doingthats the problem, its unnatural sounding that only occurs in languages other than english eg german. Its better to say >we don't care what you do with your system
>>24709666you speak like an obnoxious german who is trying too hard
>>24711390This is a mistake that germans and russian speakers make all the time, they use ing words way too much in the wrong situations. No one corrects them either so they all think they're really good at english when they are not
>>24709801>Going around correcting grammar and speaking like a robot will get you ostracized faster than if you just spoke in broken English.i hate talking to anybody who isnt a native
>>24709775The second subject is redundant>You’re going to the store and picking up groceries, right?There's no rule in consistency, but the two do have different tones, especially when spoken. Telling a kid "You're going to school" vs. "You are going to school." The lack of a contraction naturally emphasizes the *are*
>>24711390>what you are doingI still can't really see this being wrong, though. "What you are doing" sounds more relevant to what is currently being done, which was what I had in mind when I wrote that. "What you do" sounds like what has already been done or what will be done at any point in the past or future. I wanted everything to sound extra accusatory wherever I could in that instance, like they were caught red-handed.
>>24711404What's the difference?
>>24711423I can usually understand what they mean if the words are relevant, I only don't like when the accent is so thicc that you can't even understand what word they said at all!
>>24709775>>24712029>the two do have different tonesIndeed, I feel like giving a couple extra examples.You're going to school.>Oh wow, I'm excited for my first day of school!You are going to school!>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>24711390>>24711410I speak portuguese and now that you mention it I see that I probably make this mistake all the time lolWhy is it not "natural" though? If that anon posted a pic of him doing the action then would you consider it continuous? I guess in that specific case since he posted the skyrim guard maybe it'd make more sense for him to make general statements regardless of time, but I can't see how just changing it to a continuous tense would make it that "unnatural" to be considered ESL tier instantly
>>24712517>If that anon posted a pic of him doing the action then would you consider it continuous?With this I mean the anon OP replied to in the other thread, just to make it clear
>>>/k/64241734
>>24711410Germans think they're really good at English because native speakers understand them perfectly well. You can be a fussy, little prescriptivist as much as you'd like but it's meaningless when our language lacks something like the Académie Française. Most native English speakers are totally fine with descriptivism and abusing -ing words happens in AAVE and other dialects all the time anyway.