>friend 1 is an edgelord nietszche and froid fan, keeps talking about how life has no meaning, we were born to become dust etc etc, everything's worthless, people are bleak, everything boils down to the biological desire of fucking>is happily married with his cute wife and 2 kids, lives the most peaceful and boring life imaginable>friend 2 is a very trad catholic guy, reads the classics, is a fan of Thomas Aquinas and the church doctors and says he appreciates classical beauty and that a family and marriage are things required to be happy>still lives with his mom, doesn't work nor help her in anything, i only see him in person like every 6 months, has never dated because he says all women are slutsWhy does this happen?
>>24710346Kek. Maybe people are attracted to what they lack..
>>24710346Suffering acquaints one with truth.
>>24710346Friend 2 is probably dealing with a lot of pain and sadness and finds hope in his faith. Friend 1's beliefs are just a cute adornment. They don't serve any function because his life is already the way he desires it to be.
>>24710362>>24710382Holy cope. I say this as a former NEET tradcath
>>24710386Just because you were a LARPer doesn't mean everyone is. Don't project your failures onto others.
>>24710445Did you even read OP's description of the guy?
>>24710581It is not for us to guess what is in the soul of a man.
>>24710585But you were just doing that
>>24710346Most pessimist philosophers lived long lives while life afirmoors like Nietzsche were miserable and died very early.
Nietzsche wasn't a nihilist.>>24710590He was sick since childhood, nothing he could've done.
>>24710593>He was sick since childhood, nothing he could've done.Point is that people are attracted towards what they lack. You will also find that most pessimist philosophers were/are from upper classes.
>>24710588I was simply giving the generic response to Op's inquiry.
>>24710593>morality doesnt exist>truth doesnt exist>not nihilist
>>24710346what you think doesn't matter. free will doesn't exist. everyone is slave to their biology and urges and do things that are in accordance and not what they rationally deduce and speak.
>>24710346>everything boils down to the biological desire of fucking>has two kids Sounds like he's following the philosophy he professes>tradcath>is a NEET chud Sounds like he would have been a monk in olden times (assuming he actually reads that stuff and isn't simply larping)
>>24710346>everything boils down to the biological desire of fuckingNo. Cravings are more complex and insidious than that. Your friend is a performative pessimist
>>24710671>>morality doesnt existit does that's why he had a critique of it
>>24710585>ITT: Guessing what's in the soul of these men>Anon: It is not for us to guess what is in the soul of a man>Also Anon: >>24710382Really gets the old nogging going.
>>24710850If I say flying unicorns exist, and make a bad argument for whyAnd you critique my argumentIs this you implicitly acknowledging that flying unicorns exist?
>>24710889if i call your unicorn a slave unicorn and mine a master unicorn, yes i do
>>24710346Friend 1 lives in the real world, friend 2 lives in a fantasy. Not difficult to figure out and it has nothing to with who is right and who is wrong, more about the difference between believing and wanting to believe.
>>24710893>t. hasn’t read NietzscheMaster morality isn’t Nietzsche’s original suggestion. Master morality is the term he uses for pre-Christian pagan moralities in his theory about historical moral evolution, which serves the point that morality is a figment created on an adhoc basis to serve the needs of the moraliser.
Both are delusional overthinkers. Friend 1 should bear with the question how I make my time worth, while friend 2 should calm down just a little bit. PS. Nietzsche is entertaining to read every now and then. Have read like 6 of his works. Not in order, nor trying to fully understand him.
>>24710346>keeps talking about how life has no meaning, we were born to become dust etc etc, everything's worthless, people are bleak, everything boils down to the biological desire of fuckingSo why are you describing a schopenhauer fan?
>>24710911>needsUh, I think you mean desires. You do not actually need to live
>>24710911Morality exists as a social phenomenon, objective morality isn't the only correct use of the term.
>>24710346>>friend 1 is an edgelord nietszche and froid fan, keeps talking about how life has no meaning, we were born to become dust etc etc, everything's worthless, people are bleak, everything boils down to the biological desire of fuckingHow are you gonna be a 'Nietzsche fan' and believe retarded shit like this
>>24710346Friend 1 should consider actually reading Nietzsche and friend 2 should have his internet access revoked.
>>24710346>>24710671>keeps talking about how life has no meaning, we were born to become dust etc etc, everything's worthless, people are bleak, everything boils down to the biological desire of fucking>Nietzsche picPic fucking unrelated? Jesus, it's like nobody reads his books at all. Why is everyone so illiterate? People barely manage understand the genealogical method or revaluation of morals or even what "God is dead" was even about. And people never notice how is contempt for herd opinions made him free to criticize small-minded atheists, as awkward as that seems, or praise various Christians from parts of the world for their grappling with the void, including Dostoevsky, whose plays in French helped Nietzsche double-down on Genealogy of Morals. To flatten Nietzsche into "religion bad," nihilism rather than the telos of something between a philosopher and an artist, or even into political realm basically means you didn't read him.
well imo guy one actually has it right. As i’ve studied philosophy with the Bible close i’ve realized it’s Just defining religion without God. Substitute “fucking” with “life”God did not like cains Gift because it wasn’t life. Trad guy isn’t helping his family or trying to procreate. It’s really that…. I used to instantly groan at a philosopher who was anti-religious but then I realized defining life without God is still beautiful. Negative Nothing. i.
>>24710346Friend 1 is a chad who doesn't read but uses random nihilistic quotes to look smart and edgy around women. Friend 2 also doesn't read books but wants a more sophisticated excuse as to why he his a virgin loser rather than admit his addiction to vidya and gooning.
>>24710346Love how the creator of this meme didn't even bother to understand what Nietzsche meant by this. Probably some tradcath who thought Nietzsche was just saying "duhh God not REEL!!!" and immediately got offended.
>>24710346>muh turditional gontology>muh fags>muh kids>muh trud virg >muh merdernna muh whore >muh herpiness Yeah op this is some metashitical done always been fags done all the way around. My verdict is that you need to tell them to trade places. Truecuck core. If they manage to do it then it becomes trVecVck core, otherwise it's just you being overly nosy about your hypothetical friends.
>>24710357Guy 1 lacks the lack then.AACCKK-
