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Is feminism really about rights and equality or just a collective unconscious response to the need of female sexual urges and increasing sexual demands and dynamics? It's no secret that women are fully aware of the violent and brutal nature of man. Yet, they desire and fetishize it no matter how much they suffer under this patriarchal goliath.
Any books that explore this a little further? It's something that's been on my mind lately.
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It's for destabilizing a society
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>>24713688
Women hate nothing else more than other women. Feminism is about uggos, infertiles, lesbians and whores taking revenge upon healthy young women.
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>>24713756
I dont know at which point that is true anon considering alot of gen z women become radicalized by it very soon
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One might think it is actually subconsciously a movement with the aim of freeing the female sexual agency in order to ensure more reproductive success, which leads to extreme hypergamy, women only ever considering very tall men, other qualities are not so important for them. But obviously it's not working, birth rates are abysmally low, even the most eagerly hypergamous women do not tend to have children. The reason is precisely this irrational cultural shift towards hypergamy that stuns birth rates. It's like trying to lift a rock, but instead of consciously and steadily lifting it, you do it with all your might in a single second and you tear up your muscles. Overeagerness for something can actually lead to not achieving it.
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>>24713761
*cautiously
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>>24713759
They get gaslit into hating men and living a childless miserable life hooked up on SSRIs.
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>>24713688
You spent so much time trying to justify your idea that male violence is appreciated in a sexual way by women that you forgot to explain why would that have anything to do with feminism.
I don't think that a book will stop you from constantly fantasizing about women enjoying rape, anon. Especially one on feminism.

It's very sad that no one on /lit/ can discuss sociology proficiently, much less feminism.
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>>24713798
/lit/ is much more part of the post-2016 4chan than it is its own social environment. All offshoots are also informed by this and thus offer no escape. The remaining options are to make (very probably online) friends with matching interests and privately chat with them.

Most people are here because their social prospects are gutted by modern living and they can't live just reading, and so seek this place out, but they might just as well fulfill the needs of socialisation and self-actualisation separately.
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>pimps out her high school kids to her crazed eyed frog
basado?
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>>24713808
The italian audiobook for picrel is 37 minutes long.
It's enough to dunk and shit on feminism while grasping the basics of it.
Americanah was famous enough on tiktok that it would make /lit/ somewhat knowledgeable about that side of the literary world.
37 minutes of these niggers' life would give them enough ammunition to satiate their hatred for women.
Instead they keep asking, quoting Martine Desjardins, "the kind of questions that ostensibly seek information, but reveal more about the interests and concerns of the questioner".
At least booktok leaves the door open for more intellectual works, with stuff like Sally Rooney as the entry points.
/lit/ is a pseud echo chamber that inadvertly obsesses over Oprah Winfrey bookclub's 2010s era while swearing by modernist standards of literature.

I agree that /lit/ struggled a lot from the 2016 invasion of /pol/ tourists, but never to the point of being full of 9th graders obsessing over his female classmates interests and thinking that, in order to be superior to them, he'll have to read whatever is in his English curriculum (i.e. what /lit/ has become now).
This obsession over constantly comparing himself with women makes me wonder if he isn't actually just a tranny in the making.
Maybe if they were to self-actualize and socialize as they did prior to the 2016 election, or even prior to the 2020 election, then I could agree with your last sentence. But they don't. Their whole personality isn't "being a /lit/bro" anymore. It's "not being the average teenage girl reader". That is fucking pathetic.
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>>24713864
I think you need some reading comprehension classes before you post here again
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>>24713798
Some men deeply hate women, it's not that hard to understand lil bro. This got nothing to do with whatever intersectional schizobabble you just read, it's just the way nature operates
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>>24713932
there is a difference between hating them and tolerating their tardation. moreso the latter in these times, nah mean nigga?
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>>24713688
> Is feminism really about rights and equality
I think since you're already formulate the question, you know the answer anon. There is obviously a kind of hatred involved at the root of these movements, the question is to what degree it is justified, or if perhaps the frustrations are misdirected.
Sex and Character by Otto Weininger. Despite his status as a misogynist, he actually take a pro-feminist stance, since he maintains that women, in their contingent position, are the guilt of man. This book lays out of nature of the sex crisis with more clarity than any I've come across. It even anticipates transgenderism and arguably gives it a certain biological justification. The solutions he reached are impossible and he lated reneged on them, but the book is invaluable for the clear presentation it offers.
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>>24713921
>>>/lgbt/40986896
Anon, you are a woman who chopped off her tits in hope she will be recognized as a man. Your womb is rotting and your bones are shattering because you inject testosterone without knowing anything about its effects, except for what you learned in high school.
You obsessed over my assertion over the last 24 hours and your retort to it was making up the nonsensical notion of "reading comprehension classes".
Daily reminder: you will never understand the books in the Western Canon; you will never understand my posts; you will never be a man.
>>24713932
>Some men deeply hate women
You cannot hate without knowing.
Claiming to hate something without knowing it means that your hate was justified by something not founded on evidence: projecting your self-hatred onto others, desire to integrate in a supposedly intellectual community, you call it.
Take your post for example:
>whatever intersectional schizobabble you just read
It doesn't engage in any discussion over a 37 minutes essay adapted from a TedTalk transcript. It rejects its analysis on the basis of what you perceive as negative (i.e. intersectionality), and relegated it to the status of schizobabble. Not that you understand what intersectionality trully is, since I said nothing about it. Rather you judged by the fact that the author is a nigger and her book has "feminism". Even worse, you might have used ChatGPT to summarize it.

Also, for the sake of precision, I am obviously implying that anons are not on the level of a high school dropout whose hatred toward women is justified by his abysmal level of the openness (personality) trait. In that case they are simple minded creatures which, again, have no reason to be on /lit/.

That said, again, if there is someone who can actually hate women is me, don't you think? Since I have read the intersectional schizobabble, I am more than equipped to highlight its shortcomings.
These anons can't do that. They can only *pretend* to be like me.
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>>24713688
i find i can best understand what drives a movement by their first success on an issue because that is what is the seed of their memberships ideology.
feminism's first success seems to be victorian era british middleclass women petitioning their government to raise the age of consent.
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>>24713723
This. Women are antisocial children that desire oppression. If they don't get oppressed they act out.
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>>24714094
It’s kind of interesting how all contemporary social pressures seemed to have converged into this overwhelming paranoia over pedophilia. I think this actually encourages young men to fornicate because its like, I can only get this pussy rn, in 5 years my opportunities will forclose and I’ll be a pedophile for getting it
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>>24714048
Didnt know women browsed /lit/
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>>24713688
It's just an easy narrative for women to get easy victim points in a slave minded society where the victim is always justified. Most feminists don't really believe in it. This is not a "hurr durr that wasn't real feminism" post though, because even the few women who genuinely wish for equality really don't understand what they are asking for, because men are never truthful to women and this has lead women to have a very skewed perception of what men are like. The only men who treat women as equals and without cotton gloves are autists, some of them at least, and women instinctively hate them for it. It's not that men are these hyper competitive callous throat cutters women imagine them to be though. There's plenty of camaraderie among men. But men don't go out of their way to carry each other's burden in the way they do for women, and when women are asked to put an equal amount of effort as they man they unironically think they are being harassed.
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>>24714180
>go to /ftmg/
>Namefag
>Be overly masculine
>Point out every single feminine thing they do
>Misgender them because of that
>Claim to be a huge fan of content targeted to women (booktok slop, taylor swift, kpop, yaoi)

If you have successfully broken their minds (recommend to read some TERF stuff, since they will either pity or ignore you if you start saying incel stuff) you will gain a couple of extremely faithful female followers: on every board where women post (/lit/, /mu/ and /co/, from least to most) will have a random seething post referencing something you said in the last couple days, even if it has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Some of them will give you a (You). They (almost) never respond to any of your answers (if they do, they stop after a couple posts and it's almost always about referencing to you in third person (e.g. "why is /co/nspirator saying X?").
You can prove that they are women by trying to troll on lolcow, which will respond to you in the same exact way.
Mtfs answer the same way as any male anon.

Picrel was posted on lolcow (iirc) 7 years ago. As you can see the NLOGs were always on /lit/. If you were an "oldfag" you'd remember butters, a lesbian tripfag.
Going back to the discussion on "2016 election tourists ruined /lit/", it was back then that the picrel NLOG started popping up (since they were mostly lesbians, it wasn't very noticeable). But it is after covid that you get the real en masse migration of the severely autistic woman (who transitioned right after covid and wants to be the NLOG who isn't the average xe/xer) happened.
/lit/ is fucking dead and for once it wasn't the women who killed it. It was self-hating women who riled up (much probably they are the once making threads like this one) with the incels/groypers/tate fans.
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>>24714326
>recommend to read some TERF stuff, since they will either pity or ignore you if you start saying incel stuff)

Thats because like it or not TERF stuff has institutional backing, women just parrot the opposite because they like convenient narratives. Anything that inconveniences them is tossed out the window. Its because they're too sensitive.
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>>24713798

It doesn't sound like you're much proficient either.
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>>24714476
That's because you know nothing about any of the stuff I cited. At least Weiningeranon had some theoretical basis to talk about the topic. You are just here fishing for (You).
Next time, instead of "no u"-ing those who actually discuss, try to contribute to the threads you have some expertise about. Or just make one of your own.
>>24714455
>TERF stuff has institutional backing
Hell no. The alternative to rainbow capitalism is tradwifes. You either get raped by the autistic tranny in the public restroom or you get raped by your autistic uncle.
You might say that feminism has a lot of financial support, but that's because it's a money laundering scheme. If they don't go against either Murdoch or Blackrock they can do what they want (hence, all their wacky theories). But this doesn't apply to TERFs, since they are both against Murdoch and Blackrock.
>Anything that inconveniences them is tossed out the window
Not FtMs. In some sense, they are similar to MtFs: they just feel superior to incels, just as MtFs feel superior to women.
TERFs know how FtMs think.
Incels are way too simplistic when it comes to understanding women: this is another reason why incel talking points don't make FtMs seethe. Since the incel idea of a woman is far from reality, FtMs leverage this to think of themselves as males.
>Its because they're too sensitive.
Not all women are sensitive. If you chop of your tits on a whim then yeah, but using that sensibility as a metric to judge anything done by a woman is reductive.
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>>24713688
>a collective unconscious response to the need of female sexual urges and increasing sexual demands and dynamics
You just broke the needle on my bullshit meter.
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Feminists are just neurotic middle-class women who are terrified of sex. That's all you need to know.
They hate the primitiveness of sex, because they've been raised to be sophisticated.
The hate that men are dominant in the sex act, because they consider themselves superior to men.
They hate that men are attracted to their bodies ("objectification"), when they've been told to prize their own intellect.
Of course they still have sex drives, which they fear and reject, setting up a damaging psychological conflict. Their attempted cure for this (which is worse than the disease) is lesbianism: lesbian relationships are known for their violence and psychological cruelty.
tl;dr - feminists be crazy.
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>>24714133
If you think this movement was funded by women, then you are still a puppet of the destabilizers.
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>>24713756
this
they are basically incel, but because women nature is to project their fault into the others (like jews and rooster) so according to them, men are incel
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>>24713932
Anyone self aware, honest, and intelligent dislikes women.
>>24713941
Cute feet!
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>>24714326
Women like this never existed. It was always trannies
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>>24713688
feminism is about female-supremacy.
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>>24713688
Feminism is Socialism in granny panties.
The point of Socialism is Communism.

Feminists worship death and Communism is the best way to kill as many people as possible.
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Its animus possession
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>>24713723
What are you saying, that the Rothschilds & co funded all of the feminist movements since the early 20th century? What the fuck are you implying about the French Revolution? You're nuts, get out of here



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