>cope of a poor language
cope of an anon who embarrassed himself in his last thread.
>>24722751other languages don't use marks to indicate pauses in speech?
>cope of a poor languagehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosody_(linguistics)
>>24722758Pauses, intonation, other prosody, commas, all of these are copes of a poor language. In a language which marks adjectives for which noun they are modifying for example, you don't have to cope with the above to convey what you mean, you convey it with the suffix, which is a much more sophisticated way.
>>24722773maybe inflections are the cope of a poor language that can't into prosody. did you ever think of that?
i think the comma is kinda cute
>>24722780They're not.
>>24722775>commatard double postedYou continue to act the fool
>>24722799I edited the post dumbass
>>24722795>nuh uh!brilliant
>>24722802You made the counter-proposition, you back it up, you didn't. Hence I don't need to back my proposition up. Learn logic. Literally accusing me of not providing an argument, when you didn't provide an argument yourself, at all, but only a proposition. I bet you don't even know the difference between a proposition and an argument.
>>24722807maybe that would be true if there was any reasoning to back up your "proposition" in the first place.all you did was state that inflection was more "sophisticated" because it just is ok.
>>24722801Why didn't you write it correctly the first time around if you're so superior at the written word than any of us plebeians? Nigger.
>>24722825My point was that this post >>24722780is not an argument and yet you deride me for my post not being an argument. Learn basic logic.
>>24722836You're derailing the thread. Learn basic logic.
>>24722887you literally didn't post an argument as to why inflection is more sophisticated. you only posted an argument that commas are only necessary in a language without inflection. that says nothing about which is more sophisticated.
>>24722889>My inability to write properly is COMPLETELY OFF-TOPIC! SO STOP TALKING ABOUT IT, CHUD!I diagnose you with nigger brains
>>24722892Fuck off and learn how argumentation works. I'm going to sleep.
>>24722910This thread isn't about me, fuckface. Nor is it about "someone's language" in the sense of "John's English" vs "Peter's English". Rather a language = English, Latin, Japanese etc
>>24722914>Getting literally shamed out of his own thread.Lmao what a retard
>Let's see what /lit/ is up to these days>arguing over the commanever change, retards
>>24722959the retard is you
>>24722794You are a female poster
>>24723188oh no not a weeetard oooooh you makea me cry so much
>>24723206Make an argument or fuck off.
>>24723209only a colossal spastic would argue over the comma
>>24723214not an argument, fuck off from this thread brainlet
>>24723223I'm the only one keeping your niggerlicious thread alive. How black do you have to be to complain about a comma?
>>24723229If you had asked nicely I would provide arguments, but you're an asshole so I won't elaborate. Just kys retard.
>>24723238>actually I could pick you apart right now for realzz>but I won't because ur meanNever change, /lit/.
>>24723250Read the thread fuckface.
English is the greatest language in history
>>24723261Every post with an argument in this thread uses a comma and is not worth reading.
>>24722751> ;Name a more useless punctuation mark
>>24723263It's a shit language. Heavy reliance on word order, commas and intonation. A language that has fixed word order is not fit for poetry. Relying on commas and prosody to convey meaning means you're adding shit onto the language to cope with the poverty of the actual language. It's like someone is speaking and then they have to make fucking animal noises and hand gestures on top of the actual words because the words themselves are not able to convey what you're trying to say.
>>24723280Ancient Greek is a shit language. Heavy reliance on inflection, vowel length, and pitch. A language not fit for rhyme, alliteration, caesura, or sprung rhythm. Relying on inflections and pitch to convey meaning means you're adding shit onto the language to cope with the poverty of the actual language. It's like someone is speaking and then they have to make fucking animal noises and hand gestures on top of the actual words because the words themselves are not able to convey what you're trying to say.
>>24723286fuck off child
>>24723280I think you need to work on your English first before berating it>A language that has fixed word order is not fit for poetry.Because we cannot copy the rules of Latin poetry (who in turn copied Greek rules against their native verses)? Poetry isn't dogma; each language develops its own styles of poetry. There have been numerous poets in English, despite the word order (which can be freely broken in poetry).To suggest one language is "poetically superior" to another is the height of arrogance.
>>24723295kek.
>>24723300Didn't read. Fuck off and learn logic.
>>24723305fuck off back to /b/ where you belong, this is supposed to be a board of higher quality and intellectual discussions
>>24723318You didn't make any "high quality" "intellectual" point. you just said some retarded crap that can be said about any language or any grammatical feature of any language.
This esl-tard has been shitting this board up for the past month or so.>something something logic>fuck fuck off fuck youHe is a rather foul-mouthed little thing
>>24723348Yeah, he's supposedly studied the trivium but comes off as profoundly retarded, incapable of putting its logic to use. Can't understand basic arguments and is autistically fixated on language, often multiposts as well for whatever reason. At least he's not the platojeet.
>>24723372almost like any one who claims to have studied "the trivium" is a reactionary retard. same type as zoomer trad cath larpers except this one is ESL and has weird grievances against anglos.
>>24722751Do you have any argument or evidence to support this claim?
>>24724499Okay, and what is your argument for why how Latin does it is superior to how English does it? (Also, at least to my intuition the first would be more naturally translated as "he painted a picture of the laughing girl" but that's besides the point.)
>>24724340>Picturam puellae ridentis pinxit.He painted a picture of the girl laughing.>Picturam puellae ridens pinxit.He painted a picture of the girl, laughing
>>24724514Again, what is your argument for why the way Latin does it is superior to the way English does it? "It's just obvious" is not an argument.
>/lit/ is just ESLs complaining to other ESLs about how much they hate English, in English
>>24723280>ESL seething intensifies
>>24724519Ridentis/ridens is the same in writing and speech. The comma is in writing only. The only way to convey it in speech is with a pause, which is far less clear than ridentis vs ridens and is prone to being misunderstood. Also, as a general rule, marking verbs and adjectives for which noun they're referring to makes for less ambiguity. It also means you're not dependent on word order, and flexible word order is an advantage in poetry, because you can easily move around words in a sentence to make it rhyme with another sentence, without affecting the meaning.
>>24724599And what of the devices enabled by analytic grammar, like juxtaposing sentences composed of the exact same words in a different order? In a synthetic language they would have to have different forms, and the effect would be different.
>>24724609I don't know much about poetry. I've been looking into amphiboly mostly and there Latin beats English.
>>24724614The traditional terminology of Western poetry is built around Greek and Latin, of course it's going to be biased towards describing the things they're good at, not the things English is good at. Look into the traditional terminology of Chinese poetry, they have a lot of words for concepts that wouldn't even make sense in Latin.
>>24724619Alright but this thread is about commas and prosody, such as pauses and intonation, being a mere cope, unsuccessfully trying to make up for lack of inflections for example.
>>24724599nta but there are so many ways to say the same thing that ambiguity or misunderstanding can be avoided by simply choosing different words. If someone is reading a sentence aloud which includes a comma, such as in the example you provided previously, they can simply include a slight pause to imply the presence of a comma and the audience will understand. It's such an insignificant thing which almost never comes up in conversation so it makes no real difference on the practical usability of the English language which can be clearly seen through its proliferation across the globe.You're grasping at straws here
>>24724638>nta but there are so many ways to say the same thing that ambiguity or misunderstanding can be avoided by simply choosing different words.No. I'm talking about syntactic ambiguity, not semantic ambiguity.>they can simply include a slight pause to imply the presence of a commaAgain, inferior to suffixes.>and the audience will understand.Again, there's a much greater risk they won't, compared to when using suffixes.
>>24724633>unsuccessfully trying to make up for lack of inflections for example.why is it unsuccessful?seems to work to me.
>>24724760Go back to eating your beans. We're discussing steak here.
>>24724689Every language has its own means of communicating information. It is part of the skillset of an effective user of the language to know how to communicate information in a way that will be understood by their audience.
>>24724816Brainwashed
>>24724818On what basis do you assert that you know better than an entire academic field?
>>24724820This faggot again. Kys retard.
