what is your notetaking system?how do you write down ideas and stay organized on the go?
How do I write down ideas? I write them down... This does not seem like something that needs to be asked.
>>24722828do you usepocket notebookone large notebooke-ink tabletipadphone
>>24722820for school i have regular notebooks, if im out and about i like those silly little pocket notebooks. theyre very useful.just write it down anon come on lmao
Is obisidan actually worth the trouble (set up, learning shortcuts)?Im a memorylet and need to constantly write down some notes but they are scattered across various bloatware like OneNote or Evernote
>>24722845Obsidian is the best
>>24722820I use pocket notebooks for stuff I don't want to bother keeping in my brain, but everything else just sticks in my memory until I need it
>>24722829all of those except e-ink and my tablet is not an ipad and I also use notecards, receipts, envelopes, bathroom stalls, sidewalks, dollar bills, margins of books, scraps off wood, photographs, an arm, sand, etc, what ever is available when the need arrises.
>>24722820I write them down by hand into a larger notebook (probably the size as in your picrel).I don't stay organised by the way.>>24722845No idea, but obsidian is such an interesting gemstone.
Notebook. Pencil.
>>24723015Your are inclined toward hard sciences (likely mathematics/engineering), and you had a good relationship with your grandmother.
If your notebook costs less than $10, it is unlikely that your notes will prove of any value.
Is it true that using moleskine makes you more intellectual? I read that a lot of great writers used them.
I have a pocket notebook I take everywhere to right now random schizo thoughts, a regular notebook for taking notes on books I'm reading, then my org-roam setup to keep permanent notes
>>24723033No, but it is a good notebook. I think it's too slim so I use a leuchtturm
>>24722820Had a system where I have a pile of books I'm reading. Non-fiction and fiction. Start every session reading a section of the bible if i'm prompted to read more I will. Then non-fiction if I'm not interested than I don't. Than fiction.As I'm reading my desired book of fiction if any urge or idea or anything comes to me I just write as long and as hard as possible uncovering that urge. I use caffeine and nicotine and sometimes modafinil to power me through. Currently using 3 Leuchtturm1917 notes books for this. Have a Fountain pen for the notebook and a regular pen for underlining in my books which I do often as I feel even if it seems pointless.I have one Leuchtturm1917 for morning writing and main use(hard cover). Softcover Leuchtturm1917 for travel. And another hardcover Leuchtturm1917 (red color) for solely writing in Spanish to regrasp my understanding of that language.>>24723015Nice setup my friend I was always interested in going back to pencils but I don't think I can stop using pen now. My crazy ex girl friend went and wrote through one of my moleskin notebooks ripping out pages and writing shit all though it even stories I was working on to piss me off when we were fightiing. Thats when I broke up with her but I haven't been able to look at those pages and stories again in earnest feels like they were totally violated and I'm still feeling totally disgraced about it. I rather be raped or lose an arm than have someone do that to me again.
>>24722828I think he's asking about how you determine what to write down and what not to, do you write a paragraph that explains an idea, or just the idea,what things are important and what things are negligible for you when writing down information about a book
>>24723047Women are evil. I prefer pen too but I’ve never been able to avoid the rampant smudging and bleeding in any notebook once you really get one going. The mess is so distracting to me.
>>24722845Learning it is really easy, and you only need a handful of plugins (my community ones are mostly dataview, omnisearch, and some visual/workflow ones), but graph view is a meme and all the "second brain" talk is nonsense. It's alright, I use it once a while for keeping track of things, but find little use in "wiki" building. Links are better than tags; use [sociology] instead of #sociology; they're more searchable and allow hub pages.
>>24723047Different anonWhich pen do you use? I use Parker Jotter (Black Monochrome).By the way, good luck with your writing. I felt that story with your ex-girlfriend, though I haven't experienced it. You look like someone that loves writing (the very process of it), which I can relate to.
>>247230471. e4your move
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>>24723063The pen smudging is something I've noticed too but it's fine for me to deal with for now. I also notice whenever I have any sudden movements holding my fountain pen I send globs of ink everywhere. The other night I was flicking my wrist to stretch it and sent blue ink all over my bed and desk. Maybe I'll look into pencils later on I know Nabokov very famously used Blackwing pencils>>24723065I use two Pilot Kakuno's($15) for now just because I want get comfortable with using a fountain pens before I get anything expensive. Fitzgerald used a Parker Duofold a lot of writers used Parker Duofolds and 51's. If you do your research you can find out which pens different writers used pre-typewriter era.Yea I don't think a lot of people don't really understand the process and special care writing can be to someone, she would often doodle in my books saying something random whenever we would fight and I never minded cause having someone read my work made me feel seen and she would praise me but when it got bad and she tore pages out marked out a whole bunch of stuff I felt destroyed.Anyways this thread is something I looked into a while ago using ChatGPT to do the research and it's a lot of interesting stuff I found. Rilke using only Violet is a very famous thing and it was the standard in Germany and Austria in the 19th to 20th century hence Nietzsche also using Purple in manuscripts. In my stack The bible on the lower right is my late old minister grandfather's that I read side by side with my bible just looking at his notes and also reading some passages in Spanish also
obsidian + anki for personal knowledge store/retention. pen + paper for ephemeral, thinking-as-i’m-writing-type-shit.
>>24722845There is no trouble with Obsidian if you're not an autist wh obsesses over diminishing gains on "productivity."
>>24723021Oh may gah Sigmund Freud I am your fan sign me an autograph
>>24723839Any thoughts and experience with graphology?
>>24722828I think it’s a fine question, but ultimately just reveals the arcane nature of note-taking to someone unfamiliar with the practice. We’re raised to take notes in school, we have this socially supported image of an intellectual keeping pocket notebooks to record their observations (sometimes getting those notes published), and so we try to adopt this in our daily lives. But we get caught up in the act and medium, hoping that if we find “the perfect system,” the actual act of taking notes will make sense.I struggle with this too.
>>24722820Pen and a pocket notebook, sometimes I use the phone. For more substancial things I use markdown or txt on the pc.>>24722845I think it's pretty trash honestly, vim or emacs will give more bang for buck if you want to take writing into autistic levels.
>>24723033you got it backwards - great writers used to prefer them and the company took notice, turning it into a lifestyle product for upper middle class midwits
I have been journaling off and on for almost 20 years. I also do text documents on my computer for various ideas.
I don't have any ideas of write down.There is a stack of empty notebooks on my desk.
I use Ulysses primarily but I shill Obsidian because it’s easy to get into and isn’t Apple-only>>24722845You don’t need much to get startedShortcuts will just make you faster
>>24725687Most people don’t have incredible original ideas popping off in their heads randomly. If you see a clever quote or compelling 4chan post or read a line that resonates with you write them down. Think of the thousands of things you’ve forgotten by not doing this. A journal can just be a little book of personal inspirations rather than a diary
>>24722820dont have a notebook since i took the zettelpill
I have a half-dozen notebooks and text files and write disorganized and out-of-context snippets into them at random. If I need to remember something important I email it to myself, probably create a smartphone calendar entry that I forget about, or set an alarm>t. unmedicated ADHDmaxer
>>24726009>Think of the thousands of things you’ve forgotten by not doing thisNone of them were important.
>>24726146do you get off on demoralizing people? does it make your lack of productivity hurt less?
>>24724957>hoping that if we find “the perfect system,” the actual act of taking notes will make sense.This is the problem I was alluding too; this whole idea of a perfect system is very recent and came about with the rise of note taking apps and syncing data and all that simply because it promotes accumulating such a ridiculous amount of notes and is fairly limited in how it can deal with them all.20 years ago we just took notes and did not worry about it, a system would naturally evolve for keeping things organized and that system would evolve around the needs of the project and the notes you are taking. There was no app imposing a structure or requiring configuring and syncing was manual forced you to revisit those notes instead of just filing them away. Computers are very rigid for notes, they force a structure and a methodology, sometimes this can be good but is not a general solution.
>>24722820>Notebook (general ledger)>idea (category)> -- [body]>Note Card (3x5)>category top right>subject top left>Note Card (5x7)>ibid. more extensive body (long form content; book review/summaries)
>>24722820I keep loose leaf, and bundle the pages into different piles as I go, usually keeping a diary bundle, one for each story draft, one for random notes that I can pull out and develop, one for copywork and sentence experiments, etc.I can't keep a regular notebook anymore, as my thoughts and writing becomes too bouncy over the days, and it's difficult to future-proof and index material when I want to revisit later (like with story drafts and sketches, or trying to find a note I made as part of research).It's nice to then see the different bundles grow, and they tend to form their own body and pattern.
>>24722845Man I just really don't understand shit like this at all. Look at that phone screenshot. It's something like 50 words of actual text, the rest is wasted space, a e s t h e t i c [kanji] bloat and features I will never ever even think to use and will instead spend hours googling how to remove from my interface. Like always. Why would I want some kind of cloud connecting my notes? Timestamps? Twenty sub-categories with emojis? I just write in the notepad my laptop came with. 10pt times new plaintext no line spacing. I keep my notes as files in a folder if I want to return to them later, otherwise I just have unsaved tabs open so I can add things when I get a stray thought and have it go away when I shut the computer off. Or I use paper. Most of the time, actually. It's better. Three lines per line, cross-written if I don't intend to read it more than once. I'm sure this works for you people, but man, I can not understand the shilling of these "tools" in the slightest
>>24722845>my lounge kilt
>>24726009I think most people actually do think interesting thoughts, given the opportunity. They just don't ever give themselves one. Sitting down in a quiet room in front of some paper, forcing yourself to hold up a pen and stirring around in your subconscious will lead just about anyone to time skips and hand cramps, I feel. But follow a person for a day and you realize most people spend effectively no time alone. Those who do will occupy that entire time with distraction or "activity" that prevents them both from ever letting their mind run free for a bit and from sitting down and really reflecting on something. (Which might unfortunately be why I'm here right now, I realize.) Or at least this is what I choose to believe, but anecdotally it seems right
>>24726209nta but if you forgot them, they probably were not important.
Anyone else writing their own writing app?
>>24727353>>>/g/ is this way, sir.
>>24727389Stemfags not being able to understand the needs of the writer is why I started in on writing my own writing app.
