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Reading for the prose is like listening for the mix.
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>>24723180
The mix can completely ruin the music.
Cruelty and The Beast Remistressed is a great example of this. God tier album salvaged from shit tier mixing on the original release.
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>>24723273
True but it can't make a shit composition worthwhile
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>>24723180
Bullshit, it's like listening for the musicianship. Idgaf about Animals as Leaders but I've seen them live a few times because they're good at their instruments.
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>>24723396
I never understood the point of live music.
Like why am I going to stand around listening to music? I could be doing literally anything else and listening to music at the same time and with better sound quality.
>but the instruments are live
And?
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>>24723407
You go for the social experience, autismo.
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>>24723416
There’s social experiences everywhere and if they were to be ranked I don’t see why standing around listening to the same song would rate particularly high. I prefer social experiences where socialisation is the centrepiece of the evening.
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>>24723180
the prose is literally all there is. you cannot read "for" anything else.
>b-but i like the chara--
"the characters" are impressions placed in your mind through the skillful application of prose. you are reading "for" prose that happens to deal with characters
>joke's on you, i actually only read so people think i'm sma--
the cultural cachet you partake in when you tell people you've read a lauded book comes from its prose. that's what literature is, skillful manipulation of the written language. you are reading "for" prose that people value. you cannot escape.
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>>24723180
If anything, but mix is something like the print quality. You'd be reading to admire the font, paper texture and weight. Music isn't writing, and not everything is analogous.
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>>24723180
No, it's like listening for the riffs, the harmonies, the timbre, the textures - for the music, in short.
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>>24723180
But you know. Sometimes a book has mediocre or even bad prose but the plot is good. And sometimes prose good plot bad. I'm not a purist here. I do like good prose.
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>>24723407
Is there anything that you would consider a performance that you enjoy seeing? Like a stage play, or even a street performer juggling or something?
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>>24723407
Zoomie probs. Millennial here. We used to have attention spans. We would listen to entire albums paying full attention to the music throughout.
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>>24723180
Mixing to me feels like the presentation of a world, whereas prose feels like its construction.
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>>24723463
I’ve seen plays I really enjoyed, I’ve also seen sports games I really enjoyed. The critical element of these is that it’s like a story. The plays I enjoyed were strictly horror plays that were able to take advantage of the live performance in a way that was more visceral than a horror movie, which is something I didn’t expect. Any non-horror play I’ve seen was mad boring.
There is one area in which I actually do enjoy live music, when the music is secondary to a nice dinner and some proper dancing. In that scenario I enjoy musical performances, but I still don’t get the appeal of the music as a centrepiece of the night rather than something ambient to elevate the rest of it.
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>>24723468
Damn, life was dull in the old days.
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>>24723485
Yeah I guess I can't say "You're missing the point" because everybody will have a different point. I enjoy watching talented people do things that take hard work and skill. Some artists, like Taylor Swift I guess, are more or less doing a stage performance set to their music, which isn't really the kind of live music that I care about. If I only cared about actually listening to music I would stay home and buy some expensive headphones to listen to music with.

Do you like photos more than paintings because the photo is more accurate?
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>>24723435
Counterpoint. Prose cannot exist without meaning. Prose, as in random strings of words that might sound nice together, is not valuable to anyone. Prose is only valuable when it transmits some kind of information, be it about the plot, the characters, emotional states, the author’s worldview, and so on.
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I listen to classical music where there is no mix. I do in fact watch opera for the melody though
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>>24723520
TRUKE
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>>24723520
Yup. Prose merely delivers all this. Good prose not backed by substance is akin to what Jacob Collier does musically
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>>24723532
>Good prose not backed by substance is akin to what Jacob Collier does musically
lmao
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>>24723435
Nah I thought Ender's Game was fun sci-fi but bad prose. Good ideas can be poorly written.
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>>24723435
Dostoyevsky in translation isn't great prose but I still found his ideas meaningful.
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>>24723507
Nah, I have little interest in photography either. I’m not that fond of visual arts or realism for that matter but I prefer painting because it can depict something that can’t normally be seen, in ways that your eye wouldn’t do.
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>>24723180
>listening for the mix
I do this.



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