My literary analysis class textbook has a section on feminism and it begins with two and a half pages of based quotes from famous authors.
>>24724888>>24724890>>24724892I can't even
2000 years of history can't be wrong
>>24725119middling intellects say otherwise
My favorite part of these is that many of them are completely misunderstood, demonstrating that feminist critics can't do basic literary analysis. The quote from Shakespeare is from Hamlet, as in the character himself. I don't even think the Plato quote is real (I'm open to correction). The quotes from Twain and Vonnegut are obvious jokes.
>Hesiod, poet>Horace Walpole, author of [etc.]>Poet Laureate>Proudhon [the anarchist]>Charles-Pierre>Valentine de Saint-Point [the "canonical male writer"]
>>24724888>The man who trusts a woman trusts a deceiver.It took 2800 years but women have finally managed to refine their deceptions to the point where this central fact is no longer widely known.
>>24724888>>24724890>>24724892>Wimminz r lik, tards n sheit>Wimminz lik so dum n sheit>Wimminz lik so EBIL n sheit >anons in this thread: Wow. This just proves that feminist literary studies is a waste of time.../lit/ is full of genuine retards
>>24725199Sorry you wasted 4 years on underwater feminist basketweaving
>>24725199>Anon creates scenarios in his head that hasn't happened yet to get mad>Calls others retards
>>24725220>>24725237>oh yeah? oh yeah? well you're a WOMAN Right, exactly like that
>>24725280I never said that. You might also be a male feminist faggot. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hopkins is particularly right. I remember trying to translate some of his longer sonnets in french, with little success.
>>24725179Who said that quote? I would like to get more books on topics like that.
>>24725199How to spot someone who has never known a woman in one easy trick.
>>24725154>The quote from Shakespeare is from HamletThey just really wanted to include Shakespeare in their list because he's ubiquitous with Western literature.
Do these types ever wonder why they believe that which they believe now, and not what was believed then? Why equality of value between man and woman, why value of humanity at all
>>24725395>Do these types ever wonder?No.
>>24725286>oh yeah? oh yeah? well you're EFFEMINATE>I never said you were a woman I never said that I never said that I said you were just like a woman that's differentFascinating how you people will say this and then turn around and say that feminist readings are unnecessary bullshit. Prime example of getting so upset it makes you retarded
>>24725372I know noone on lit reads but it's quite literally the first quote in op's pic.
Disingenuous presentation of quotes to say the least. Several of these are out of context, deliberately misrepresented, or are even of dubious attribution. A couple were not even digs at women in particular, or even very serious. Mark Twain's joke, for example, contained absolutely no disparagement (or even mention) of Jane Austen's gender. Twain delivered many such insults over the course of his literary life at a wide range of authors, but Jane Austen is off limits because she's a woman?
>>24725420>Jane Austen is off limits because she's a woman?Same reason Schope took shots at all the intellectual heavyweights of his time but is remembered within the current reading public for one throw away essay.
>>24724888>Not all women
>>24725446Obviously.
>>24725154>I don't even think the Plato quote is realIt's not from the Platonic dialogues. It's one of those quotes people would just ascribe to a famous thinker>https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/who-has-not-made-me-a-woman/>Several modern scholars, beginning with the philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer, have remarked on the uncanny parallel between the wording of the Jewish blessings and an ancient Greek tradition ascribed variously to Thales, Socrates, or Plato. The sage in question was allegedly in the habit of thanking God for three things: “that I was born a human and not a beast; a man and not a woman; a Greek and not a Barbarian.”
>one of the outspoken anti-feministic figures is named Honor the Ballsack
>>24725154>I don't even think the Plato quote is real I don't know if the quote is real or not, but he did say thay if someone's good then he will reincarnate as a man, as if someone is evil they'll be a woman.
>>24724888Lost with Alexander Pope
>>24724888>>24724890>>24724890>>24724892Remember ladies, this is was crypto-chuds mean when they talk about the importance of restoring "lost tradition" and the "canon." Run don't walk way.
>>24725516>restoringkekps - you cant even run
>>24725154the timaeus does say that the first rung of reincarnation after living a viceful life as a man is to become a woman, and from there animals
>>24725516You will become subservient again and you will enjoy it.
>>24724888>>24724890>>>24724892Daily reminder that it was and still is men who set up the rules of society. It is men who through enlightment rationality declared women capable of possessing a res cogitans which only needs development to put them on equal footing, and a man who declared women as having a unique phenomenological experience that abuse to endlessly share vagina stories about. Feminism is the male rule of law, and is always instantiated by men, and can easily be taken away, as we have seen in the middle east. If women had any true feminist sense, they would learn how to fight and use weapons. But they do not, and seek to only react to the actions of men. Oh well, maybe in some future post war period we can get truly emancipated women
>>24725448The Theotokos is, singularly the greatest human who wasn't also God, so there is that.There is also Saint Thelca, Saint Lucy, etc. The Way of Perfection >>> 99.9% of self-help/practical philosophy written by men.
>>24724888Plato's quote reminds me of what we Jewish men say every morning. >Blessed are You, Lord our God, King of the Universe, who has not made me a woman
>>24725446st mary of egypt is lowkey making my dih hard
>>24725398>More projectionI accept your concession
>>24725561fais-toi soigner, mon pauv'vieux
>>24725538Astute. The same principle holds in femdom and all other sorts of deviant sexual activity where the woman subjugates the man. She think she is control, that she is dominant. Ha
>>24725561>nuh uh you're projecting and sheit>>24725286>you might be a male feminist faggot>>24725398>prime example of getting so upset it makes you retarded
>>24725538>Oh well, maybe in some future post war period we can get truly emancipated women*gets dragged by Grug into a cave*
>>24725154there is something oddly similar attributed to Socrates in the life of Thales by Diogenes Laertius>Hermippus in his Lives refers to Thales the story which is told by some of Socrates, namely, that he used to say there were three blessings for which he was grateful to Fortune: “first, that I was born a human being and not one of the brutes; next, that I was born a man and not a woman; thirdly, a Greek and not a barbarian.”
>>24725580>You said faggot so that means you must be literally frothing in mouthLmao, Illiterate-kun I assure you I'm not even angry a little bit. Meanwhile you were the one first who said here >>24725199>anons in this thread: Wow. This just proves that feminist literary studies is a waste of time... /lit/ is full of genuine retardsWhen literally no one before you said anything like that. And replied my post saying you are being schitzo with>OH YEAH OH YEAH ARE YOU ANGRY ABOUT WOMEN?!?!?!??Kek
>>24724888The Eastern literary canon as well. The entire world, every civilization independently saw women as inferior. Why are men so mean?
>>24725632Except there is no proof for this particular quote
>>24725598>no one said anything like that>>24724897>I can't even>>24725119>2000 years of history can't be wrong>>24725154>feminist critics can't do basic literary analysis>>24725179>women are deceivers
>>24725692Thanks for proving feminists can't analyze text for shit.
>>24725678That's good. I thought he really did say. Thank God. The only thing I can find in his texts talking about women is Analects 17.25.
>>24724888I find Rousseau's quote to be the most insightful.
how do we make women remember that we can overpower and rape any of them if we want to and that only another man could stop it frim happening?
>>24725740Aristotle has the most factual quote.
>>24725695>no argument
> Asserting that literature should be free from biases of race, class, gender, or feminist criticism...I'd like to think they put that comma there on purpose.> values each member of societyhttps://dl1.cuni.cz/pluginfile.php/1172856/mod_resource/content/1/Simone%20Weil_Human_Personality_Self.pdfWe live in a bureaucratic society. Everyone who fits is either a cog in the machine, or tries to reason like it is. People who wrote that did not care about art and philosophy, nor about position of women is society, they simply prepared the “document” with negative examples and positive points that should be appropriate to make, and used the scandalous newspaper article style either unconsciously, or because it was most familiar to the public.Great teacher would take just the Aristotle example, and make the whole class on how social environment shapes the mind, how metaphorical master-slave relationship is still not about actual slavery, what “men” and “women” were in Aristotle's model, etc. In other words, to understand why it was said.Even the first quote itself undermines the whole narrative. If you think about, it tells you the no matter how many masturbatory stories about great war leaders and strictly male achievements they wrote and read, women easily tricked those couch dwelling thinkers, so the accounts of the era are missing not just history of women, but also history of such unfortunate interactions with them.
>>24725761Please continue with that story of how someone horrible is almost raping you, but you are saved by the totally good guy, and, incidentally, ready to take him inside at that very moment, and so it happens. Freud is taking notes.
>>24725692>>women are deceiversYeah, that's what I said.
>>24725812Aristotle is more on the technical side of things compared to Rousseau's which is more sentimental and heartfelt, he eloquently expressed women's chaotic and harsh nature and compared it to what seems like the hedgehog dilemma.
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>>24725843>who hurt you?you aint cut out for thinkin toots
>>24725692I'm >>24725154 and I never said that feminist literary studies was a waste of time, it's just a fact that feminist literary critics are by and large uneducated and incompetent. I rather like the field, but the people who occupy it are idiots, as evidenced by the section from OP's textbook.
>>24726029Feminist studies is filled with idiots because it was co-opted by idiots and post-modernists. I think around the time Judith Butler wrote her works, it became so ridiculous that you could write anything in Feminist studies and get a passing grade.In all honestly, feminism in its original form is dead, and the more level headed feminists broke off from it to pursue humanitarianism more broadly.
>>24724890Emerson just gave his thoughts on Austen's works without bringing up her gender, why is that in here?
>>24725154how do you misunderstand this?
>>24725365Why does everyone have to bring up the French all the time here?
>>24726604Where are these level headed feminists except Camile Paglia?
>>24724888why is a quote about plato attributed to plato? are these people retarded?
>>24725446>>24725542From the Life and sayings of Amma Sara of Scete:"Another time, two old men, great anchorites, came to the district of Pelusia to visit her. When they arrived one said to the other, ‘Let us humiliate this old woman.’ So they said to her, ‘Be careful not to become conceited thinking to yourself: “Look how anchorites are coming to see me, a mere woman.” ’ But Amma Sarah said to them, ‘According to nature I am a woman, but not according to my thoughts.""She also said to the brothers: It is I who am the man, and you are the woman."
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