I really need to add all my books to my Goodreads, I need to keep track of all of these motherfuckers.

On a scale of 1-10, how retarded is /lit/?

>>24729165
Using Goodreads like Discogs? Huh. I never really thought of using it like that. I just have what I want to read regardless of whether I own it or not, and what I've read regardless of ditto. I use the tags system liberally tho.

>>24729169
H/10

>>24729171
That's how you use Discogs? Also, I use Goodreads the same way, I just also want to be able to keep track of what I own.

>>24729169
I was thinking about polling all of the boards to get everyone's opinion on what the smartest and dumbest boards on 4chan were.
/lit/ is probably one of the smarter boards but not the smartest. The dumbest is either /pol/ or /x/.

why is US a cuck for israel?

>>24729175
/x/ knows what it's doing

>>24729159
Technological singularity is pure cope. It won't happen.

>>24729177
Because they had their own weird protestant off shoots who want the world to end who believe that if there is a state of Israel it makes it easier for the revelations prophecy of Israeli jews converting to Christianity or being damned which helps bring about the final judgment
For years these people didn't vote because they thought that the US government was a spawn of the devil (they're the reason JFK had to explain he didn't answer to the seven headed beast of Rome) and they didn't want any part of it, especially none of that mixed public schooling or voting in them, but then the moral majority happened and US christians started viewing voting as a way of securing the end times by voting in enough bellicose zionists the whole thing would have to burn down soon
It hasn't worked, but they are trying their hardest to force the hand of God

>>24729177
because anything israel gets away with, the US knows it can get away with.

>>24729175
/tv/ is pretty fucking stupid

>>24729191
/wsg/ and /gif/ are really bad too. They seriously exist to leech off of the suffering of other people.

>>24729195
/gif/ being trolled for literally 2 years by one guy making /ylyl/ threads only to spam the worst slop from tiktok might qualify them for the stupidest board of all time. Every thread without fail was filled with confused and enraged posts.

My favourite serial killer is probably Dahmer. I feel like Bundy is spookier though cause I think there's been a lot of murders that haven't been attributed to him; same with Clifford Olson.

>>24729159
Why rush to make a new thread and then use a shitty pic anyways

>>24729213
Dahmer I feel kind of bad for because he was crazy and asking for help and if anyone had been interested in finding the killer they probably would have
Instead there's shit like the police dropping one of the naked and running victims back to Dahmer because they figured he got lost and didn't want to pry

>>24729171
That's how I use it

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Every day I swing wildly between feeling really lonely and touch starved and feeling overwhelmed by the presence of other people, to the point that I'll fantasize for several hours at a time about fleeing into the middle of nowhere or escaping my body to roam as a disembodied spirit. Sometimes the switch happens multiple times in one day. I have a collection of images with no people in them that I like to open and flip through to calm myself down when being around people - at work, in public, visiting home, whatever - gets to be too much. I'm kind of a fan of the whole liminal space thing because it scratches that itch. Look at this weird poolroom thing that seems to go on forever, isn't it comfy? Wouldn't you like to lay back in the dimness and listen to water dripping somewhere far off? It's dysfunctional as hell and as I get older while remaining alone the loneliness gets worse but the type of escapism I engage in when I do this serves as enough of a balm to keep me going without changing my life for another couple days.

>>24729282
If they joined up the two pools it would be a really fun lap

>>24729159
Yeah so I'm gonna become a citizen of Nazi Germany, and then I'm gonna keep working and clubbing and doing hobbies, and then millions of people are gonna die in foreign countries, and then the zionazis are gonna be in power for a decade or two, or three, and then I'll be older and have money from working, and then the war will happen, and then it'll end, and I'll be traveling in an allied country, and then more people will die, and then the government will be changed by some other people, and I'll be working and owning a house somewhere, and then some country will be owned by some other country, and I'll be working and living in a house or something. Wow paying attention to politics is really important???

>>24729175
>/lit/ is probably one of the smarter boards
So in the 2-3 range?

>>24729175
>/lit/ is probably one of the smarter boards
/lit/ is about on the same level of post quality and as /v/ was a little over a decade ago.
It might be the most effeminate and neurotic board though.

Since I'm never going to have the opportunity to have a wife or a child or own any property or have a good job I think I'd like to be a lifelong student and live in squalor and rack up debt ill never pay
I'd like to get into a good school that still does old school academia. Does that even exist anymore? As an outsider all I hear is bad stories about the state of universities even the prestigious ones with legacies

>>24729228
Yeah Dahmer was defo failed on some level, as well.

There have been a lot of cute, innocent girls who got raped throughout history.

>>24729329
Basically the only thing he had going for him was nobody looking for the victims or in his fridge
He's batshit crazy enough to think he's creating zombie lovers, it's not a state of mind that lends itself to avoiding police detection

>>24729175
The dumbest is without a doubt /pol/, but the second dumbest is /3/. /3/ is 90% low effort baits and shitposts.

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serial killers might be government projects gone wrong, or just abandoned. otherwise, they're pretty boring, in my book.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/qfVXvDEvGfen

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I want to move to America. And see the girls who look like this pic.

>>24729159
I love women's feet so much it's unreal

recently I've started getting horrible intrusive thoughts of her being intimate with her previous bfs and it makes me feel like fucking shit and ruins my day. and I think its because my gf recently opened up about her shitty romantic past

>ex who was absolutely shit. had major drinking issues, was "previously" a serial cheater, once forced another girl to abort, and one time sneakily removed the condom without her permission
>another ex was an egotistic asshole who was a coward. said he had to break up with her because his family would never accept her being not white (she's a halfu)
>a guy she knew from high school. they went on a few dates, he lovebombed her, she felt this rush of emotions, they had sex, then he ghosted her. she said it was such a horrible feeling having sex with someone she didn't have a real connection with, like it felt like she was giving a part of herself to someone that didn't deserve it.

like I appreciate her being comfortable enough to share these vulnerable thoughts and experience with me, but for whatever reason it's fucking with me on the day to day and I can't get these thoughts of her being with these horrible people out of my head. I see her dressed in a cute sundress and I'm thinking oh no those bfs saw her like that. she sends me links to cute couples activities and I think ah fuck she probably did all this shhit with those terrible people too. the worst is last night when she was going down on my going all sloppy and im thinking oh shit did she do this to that guy she knew from high school (she even knew something was up because I instantly lost my erection when that intrusive thought same to me but i said I just had to pee)

>>24729341
His apartment reeked of death and he was a known multiple-offence sex offender who was at one point caught with one of his victims (who was the brother of a boy he had drugged & molested) right before he murdered him. There was a lot of oversight and neglect.

>>24729355
It must have been fairly trivial to be a serial killer 50+ years ago. Nowadays, at least in more decent parts of the world, that has to be rough pull.

>>24729191
I only posted on there a maximum of three times because everyone was so insufferable there.

>>24729329
I think the fact that he was kind of a lolcow in school probably contributed to it. homosexuality aside, most people when they're kids can't handle understanding what someone is going through and instead gang up on the poor kid because anyone who steps out of line is ostracized and no kid wants to be "that kid" Le Bon's "The Crowd" talks a lot about this and the book has never really been disproven since the day it was published.

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>>24729159
This chanting in this is superb: https://youtu.be/tuqIWY0-ylw?si=BPt5A3kFwjgcFufj&t=170

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>>24729421
https://youtu.be/twV-JQkbD-A

Nine Inch Nails is the best band of all time

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He's posing now, but we all know we are all looking at future single baby mamas, complaining about why Jamal not paying his child support, and him denying they are even his kids. lil antwon and DeMarcus going to grow up not knowing who their day is but at least they will have this pic to look back on to know what he looked like and know he was once a proud to be dad.

I still rip music from YouTube.

Nikocado Avocado's asshole is hideous. Do fags really get off to this?

How do I clean cum off a Kobo screen?

>>24729538
Have you tried fire?

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https://onlineradiobox.com/ca/icimusiqueclassiqueabitibi/

So I saw a guy from my neighborhood again with his kid. I remember him from when I was a teen, he used to play basketball on the local court, although very rarely. I saw him in church last time I went. Anyway, its midday on a weekday and hes just hanging out with his kid. He seems to have very calm demeanour.
And whenever I see him, I cant help but wonder...why did things work out for him and didnt for me? Im a good guy, im sure he is a good guy too but I really dont think hes better than me. I think its just the circumstances that are different. He lives in a house, his family is most likely well off although obviously not rotten about money. My family is sort of poor. My dad has always been a hard character with many negative traits. His dad was probably functional and supportive.
I had a hard life so far. Not many things worked out for me well. No matter how much I try to do the right thing and try to be kind to other people, life and people in my life spit in my face. My sister is a psycho and i dont talk to her, dad is mentally ill and now he has become physically ill too. I dont have a job, but when I do its soul crushing and leaves me completely empty and used and burnt out. That guy has a kid and he doesnt even have a job, he has a loving wife yet he walks around with them in worktime. On a purely inertial basis, things simply worked out for him. And no matter how much I try, how much I put myself out there, i get a rejection...silence...humiliation....solitude...poverty...mockery....failure.
No matter what i try i lose. I tried going abroad, i tried countless hobbies, classes, sports, friendgroups, i tried praying all the time and going to church and reading Bible, i tried pursuing art, i tried different professions, nothing worked out for me, i gained no friends, no money and i never had a gf.
I dont ask for everything that that guy has, i just want to know why? Why did things work out for him and not for me? Is there a reason why I suffered so much? Will something good come on my path later?

Feels selfish to have thoughts of suicide while my mother's body begins to break down and she's in pain most of the day. Makes me wish I could swap bodies with her and then off myself lol

Fuck, I feel so much loneliness. Like if I was a little rock floating across a cold universe

>>24729619
Like a unique point in an abstract space

>>24729175
I haven't really browsed all of the boards enough to make an absolute statement, but I'd say /r9k/ is pretty fucking far down there if we're ranking them smartest to dumbest.

Should I go into the city today so I can ride the bus all over nonstop while listening to music, reading literature, and checking out young qts? Maybe.

How do I get into politics and economy? Because politics and economy runs the world.
Give me essentials to understand things. Geopolitics, capitalism, etc.

>>24729627
Unironically, a BA in Poli Sci.

>>24729627
Start with Smith, Ricardo, Locke. Not in that order but you're smart you'll figure it out. Then Malthus and Hobbes if you're curious.
After that you can read the economical side of Marx's works.
Then after the utilitarians, get into modern economics.

>>24729634
Don't want to do another degree.
>>24729636
ok

I think I'd be a good painter if I knew how to paint. It's only natural then that I've been known as a terrible artist since childhood

>>24729644
You could also decide to get interested in the current and technical side of economics. Understanding things as they happen and such and just glance over the theoretical base

>>24729666
what do you mean by current? are we talking about newer economics related books?

>encyclopedia of violent men
u just know women love that book

>>24729636
>already has a degree but didn't read any of those
damn kind of raisinty stem bugman shit did u study? lol

>>24729679
>stem bugman
A true man, fully man, no trace of animal, is a mathematician, physician, versed in programming who's also well read

>>24729692
>A true man, fully man
would have a solid understanding of economics and finance not have to ask for basic bitch recommendations on 4channel

>>24729701
I'm the one who gave the recommendation. Spiteful retard

my job used to be ok but i have a super super lame coworkers who is like the worst kind of npc just so fucking stupid and major major pseud. i cannot wait to quit.

>>24729705
i'm not spiteful and i know ur not the guy who asked. i just thought it was lame how the guy was dismissively like "i'm not doing another degree" when apparently his current education is quite inadequate.

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Forget it Anon, it's Chinatown...

>>24729706
They probably think the same way about you. People don’t show their true colors in the workplace.

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Do you believe that this farce called Earth is better than the Void? Foolish anon, how quickly you have forgotten that before the false angel said, “Let there be light,” there was a darkness, forever growing in which peace and silence reigned.

>>24729713
Forget it Proust, it's Joycetown.

>>24729739
Ah, anon, indulging your pessimist instincts as usual, for you do not consider darkness did not exist before light.

ive been reading a book about my favorite sserial killer and im dragging it bc once i finish it theres gonna be nothing left to research or study about him

These are the scents I got complimented on: Head & Shoulders BARE shampoo, Irish Spring bar soap (I guess because it smells like her dad?), and Degree Adventure deodorant. I'm wearing all 3 now.

>>24729713
Forget it Pound, it's Israel.

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just spied this fella out the backdoor while making a sandwich. awwww. anyone wanna help me plan a catnapping? I must have it now >:^)

>>24729783
Head and Shoulders fixed my itchy scalp, shoutouts to them.

>>24729783
They don't conflict? Thanks for the suggestions. I do have dandruff but H&S dried out my hair too much so I stopped using it over a decade and a half ago. I've considered giving it another try as of late but meh.

>>24729925
I got a compliment from a girl I know after switching from regular H&S to H&S Bare while using the other 2. Bare has less ingredients than the regular one and different smell.

>>24729933
Hmm okay, if I buy it again I'll get that one, thanks.

why is Oleg Nasobin so smart, bros?

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What should I watch next /lit/?

>>24730016
The Wailing is very good but also very depressing.

>>24730016
First watch Apocalypse Now and then Princess Bride.

>>24730016
The Chaser is one of my favorite movies, I definitely recommend it. Mad God is great too.

>>24730022
>>24730048
>>24730055
Will check em out.

>>24730016
you should watch porn

>>24730155
Porn bores me now.

is there way to make money with AI?

>>24729538
use your shirt

e e cummings. that is a gal that'll kill them stunning

>>24729721
great, i hope so, then maybe they can stop talking to me all the fucking time

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The idea that inceldom can be explained away by the supposed fact that many men are merely unaware of subtle expressions of love by women is a massive gigacope. If such an idea arose as a protective act of self-delusion, it would be pitiable, but passing it as "advice" to others, as I have often seen in Normo Erectus social life, makes me rage

>>24730577
I think it's mostly caused by interpreting females in general as a separate species, with wh40k optimal race stratagems, working as a conglomerate whole against them, possibly commanded by some goddess empress, while most females got lost at the acronym in this sentence

>>24730614
basically u just have to a have a tesla, a luxury condo downtown, and be a mid level product manager at trillion dollar market cap tech firm. then you may get a crumb, but only as bait to waste all your money on european vacations and front row seats to concerts before taking the condo in a divorce. sorry, assuming i ever manage to have all that, i'll just jack it and keep my wealth, thanks. just don't bitch that the birth rate collapsed and now there's no new generation to take care of nursing homes full of childless cat ladies tho.

is there any kind of philosophy that's about the idea that nothing is self-evident and everything needs to be explained and justified to exist

wow lang lang looks fuckin haggard in that apple music promo pic for his new album i guess piano twinks have to hit the wall at some point but did they have to put him in that weird ass shirt?

>>24729159
How much sex fantasy is too much?

Seething because the man who married the woman I love is becoming even more successful

>>24730839
consider that it could actually feel worse if he was a bum. then when she's old and used up she'll suddenly want to reconnect and let you know she always cared for you.

>>24730842
this hypothetical is not only stupid, it is also pointless

>>24730850
>hypothetical
for u

Nothing makes me more depressed than reading about the collapse of the Ottomans. Hard to think of an imperial collapse that was as deadly and damaging besides Western Rome. America, learn from what happens when you have a imperial mutt society full of people who lack a solid identity

>Mother of the family next door is some obese stay-at-home mom
>Her kids are overweight gremlins
>Father is some construction worker who is rarely ever home
>Grass in their backyard has never been cut
>The fence is falling into ruin
>I once accidentally received their mail and in it contained a letter from a for-profit university that the obese mother apparently enrolled in at one point
I really, really, really hate Americans.

>oh no my neighbors are fat, the west has fallen!
if that's all u have to seethe about maybe get a grip and realize how good america actually is

There's nothing left for me here. I know that. I've known that for at least a couple of years. I still come here.
It's just a waste. Maybe at some point it wasn't, but now it's just drudgery, like watching a show you don't really enjoy or going out with friends you feel alienated from. Just burning my time away like firewood.
The question is: what to do, instead? 4chan protected me from life when I was young, neglected and trapped under unfavourable circumstances. As a side-effect, I never learned how to live. It's just a crutch now, and it has been since my early twenties.
Live, anon. Live.
I really want to, I just don't know how/am afraid/don't trust myself/don't trust the world/am a failure.
It's hard.
Not as hard as my peanus weenus. My weenus peanus, of course.

>>24730917
what else are you going to do? hang out with normies? this site sucks ass but you wouldn't have spent so much time here if you could just vibe with neurotypicals. i guess you could try getting into drugs.

>>the west has fallen!
>how good america actually is
Look, buddy, I really don't care about that. I just really hate Americans.

hey you two prissy faggots reply to each other directly doing otherwise makes you look like a teenage girl

>>24730973
Faggots on this site are so terrified of confrontation that they’re hesitant to given (You)s. They’d rather make a vague general statement of rage to make it appear they’re screaming into the void, to preserve what little ego and delusions of grandeur they can scrape up.

Oh shut up you faggot. Go write about your problems in a journal if you're so above that than projecting your bullshit onto others.

my gf told me she's had at least 4 one night stands. I was not one of them. She tells me I'm the best, most amazing, blah blah blah. Impossible to believe when some chad can obviously charm their way into her pants in a single evening. I was obviously not good looking or charming enough to do the same.

Thikning about breaking it off. I'm so sick of every woman on earth being a disgusting lying cheating whore.

>>24731041
don't feel bad, i've been the one night stand a few times, i'm not charming, my personality sucks, i just workout a lot. the next day she sends me home, and then texts later that she's at the mall shopping with her bf or something and i'm just like "waste of time should have jacked off instead".

>>24731041
Were the one night stands before or during your relationship with her? If they were before your relationship then she did literally nothing wrong

>>24729159
Perfect edition.
Whenever I try to open up I somehow attract the most mentally ill people. Like this brit tourist from the other night who got into an argument insisting nobody who worded something the way I did could be a writer, profound schizophrenia. What causes me to only attract the attention of evil?

>>24731041
>disgusting lying cheating whore.
Tell that to your mother.

>>24731067
the bull trying to console others never fails to make me laugh

>>24731041
Dump her. I don't care how "delusional" it is to expect a virgin. If I can do it, surely a woman can too.

>>24731068
if she did the ol' break up for a week, get dicked down by a boy toy, and then get back with her bf, i find that shady tho

>>24730776
why not pay for a surrogate so you have all the fun of a kid without the pain of a woman

>>24731080
i'm considering it

i'll probably die within the next ten years idc i haven't read anything good in ages

>>24730944
Word.

>>24729917
>>24729925
Try apple cider vinegar.

i should smoke more weed

>>24731072
>Dump her. I don't care how "delusional" it is to expect a virgin. If I can do it, surely a woman can too.
Amen.
>You should know that young people today who remain pure will be counted among the martyrs of our Church on the Day of Judgment."
St Paisios

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5ktgKhiPas

>>24731068
Before. I'm not a cuckold but its embarrassing to be 5th best (at best) to some woman. She's so good otherwise, makes me sick that these whores can pretend so easily to be sweet, kind women

>>24731067
Nice muscles bro

Want some luck stories? My wife literally sent mr a video of her fucking some youn better looking big dick Chad guy like "bet you wanna come back now?!"

Actually, no. That has not recentivised to come home. Swing and a miss

>>24731159
i'm not even big i mostly do calisthenics lol

>>24731168
oh that would be piss me off trying to make me jealous or manipulate me with sex just makes me stubborn af instant ghost

>>24731168
No idea if this is a joke or not but you have my sympathies if it's not.

>>24731176
could explain why you’re not into girls enough/never come over as charming. that’s the gayest one.

>>24731069
Thats not a good outlook to have anon, it will make you guarded agains well intentioned people as well. Not to mention, toughts will slowly influence your reality (if it is trough conventional; r occultist means is up to you to decide) Im not some schizo (trust me) and your words have sparked flint in me, enough to make me reply at least. Come on, share some with me.

>>24731168
Why is she still you wife?

Consciousness has made many humans arrogant. They believe they are special because they can think, that they are somehow not a biological mechanism that eats, shits, and fucks, that these biological processes do not in fact rule their existence from birth until death. You are not exempt. You are not different from any other human. You're not even really any different from any other living thing. If these words make you uncomfortable or angry or dismissive or derisive it is because you are poisoned by conceit. It is because you don't want to be reminded that you are an ambulant digestive tract with some genitals attached and that these are the only components of you that actually matter.

>>24731219
sex with women feels really good but hanging out with them is always slightly cringe

My liege, WWOYM threads have been taken over by cuckold fetishists!

>>24731253
>sex with women feels really good
actually that might be overstating it but it's solidly "ok"

Slowly my sight gets blurrier.

i never noticed before in the heaven knows im miserable now video morrisey has a fucking shrub or some shit in his back pocket what the fuck is that

>>24731263
i thought the same thing then i took out my contact lenses and i could read my phone again it was so super crispy and clear im like woah

>>24731253
that started out as a jibe but maybe you really are gay. for me how much I like going to bed with a girl depends how much I like her (ie if I’m in love).

>>24731276
>falling in love with women
now THAT'S gay lmao

>>24731238
Literally because she's still my closest friend and I don't want her to die. It's not like we'll ever be okay, I just can't see someone that way then stop caring. It is murdering me tbqh

that feeling when your comments in the friend chat are mostly ignored like 3x in a row

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Friend of mine has now been in his relationship with a whore (50+ bodycount) for 4 years. I guess there really is nothing stopping women from just riding the cock carousel 24/7 for a couple years and then at some point going "I'm ready to settle down now". Men will take anything.

>>24731280
saw that coming a mile off.
except it’s the opposite of gay isn’t it. a girl once told good looking guys basically never cheat, it’s weird-looking bisexual-coded ones.

>>24731282
anyone who fucks with my emotions like that is getting ghosted

>>24731255
Always a bad wwoym when the ‘ya’ lowercase anon is here replying to every other post.

>>24731290
>weird copes
ok dude have fun being taunted by your ex-wife or whatever

>>24731292
So true. I can't stand that retarded fuck.

>>24731265
A bunch of brittish musicians and artists at the time used to carry small plants in their pockets while in public. Some Rolling Stones journalist insisted that they were doing it as a way to stand up for environmentalism by being "outspokenly Emmersonian", but I am pretty sure that the idea came from a misintranslation of Bauldelaire which was popular among said types back then. Tbh, Morrissey was probably just taking the piss out of the guys who went around carrying that shit, instead of doing it unironically.

>>24731296
ya i mean it's fucking gigantic lmao tho i didn't notice till just now

>>24731294
different anon but good one

>>24731292
>>24731295
feel free to take ur normie ass back to instagram or whereever

I just wanna be considered and included

>>24731263
My eyesight has worsened significantly since I started working as a white collar wagie

>>24731308
Thing is that poster only appeared in the threads last year or so. Or did you just talk normally up until then

>>24731320
oh no i've been lowercase posting since day one dude like 10 years ago it's probs someone else lol

>>24731282
>I don't want her to die
?

>>24731289
>People always be like what 0 pussy does to a mf" but I've seen what pussy does to a mf and it's much worse.

>>24731331
She was his first ever girlfriend and turned him into a turbo leftist so yes, you're right.

>>24731291
Yeah but if I was that capable I'd not have been hurt at all. I just need to grit my teeth and accept her issues = whore and I do better next time. Does sting though m8

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>>24731334
With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him. He goeth after her straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as a fool to the correction of the stocks; Till a dart strike through his liver; as a bird hasteth to the snare, and knoweth not that it is for his life. Hearken unto me now therefore, O ye children, and attend to the words of my mouth. Let not thine heart decline to her ways, go not astray in her paths. For she hath cast down many wounded: yea, many strong men have been slain by her. Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death.

>>24731329
We're both really bad for trying to an hero. Got better for a while but ehhhch

>>24731289
Better to love well rather than wisely.

>>24731327
lol!

Ah I'm so annoyed w myself my dudes. I was nearly out of withdrawal and I jumped back on cause I couldn't. Take yhe worst bit

>>24731263
taking breaks and looking 20+ feet away can help. I just make sure to go for a few walks during the work day. I also wear blueblockers... maybe it helps, maybe it just delays the inevitable.

I am so tired of hearing about "fascism." This is fascism, that is fascism. Shut the fuck up, retard.

>>24731289
Friend of mine got into a relationship with a girl who was insecure and had no life, built her up and supported her for months. When she got better she cucked him. Nowadays he resents women. He also resents Chads, clearly out of envy.
Friend of mine is in a relationship with a fat woman who has cutting scars, shitty cartoon tattoos, piercings and short danger-hair. She is also obsessed with xitter and acts like it is real life. The first time I met her she proceeded to get drunk and throw up on the floor, destroy some glasses and furniture during his housewarming party. Was apparently an easy lay and fucked a lot of guys before meeting him.
Friend of mine exclusively dates and chases women who pretty much have "thot" tattooed on their faces and is constantly emotionally unstable after being ghosted, cheated on, left haging or used as a living-wallet by them.
Former friend of mine has no self-esteem and considers himself a commie feminist. Exclusively dates liberals who make his life a living hell. Decided to make the latest his fiance.
Friend of mine dated some manic pixie girl since his teens and after asking for her hand in marriage she made him cut contact with all of his friends, which he did. There was also a rumor about her cheating on him during a party, although she convinced him it wasn't true.
Friend of mine got a girlfriend pregnant. Decided to step up and build a life together since he loved her and wanted to give their kid a stable life. She dumped him about a year latter on christmas eve. Why? Because she wanted to party and sleep around for a few more years. This was ages ago and he still loves her.
I dated a couple BPDemons and have been single since breaking up with the last one years ago.
Shit's ugly out there.

>>24731263
Same. People like us are made to sit indoors are translate bibles or some shit.

>>24731298
I actually made all of that up.

>>24731289
yeah i bet he even had to take her to dinner a few nights in a row before he managed to bag her too. women make me sick. our society basically doesn't punish them for being whores at all. no social stigma around it, diseases are easily avoided, and some beta cuck is willing to provide for her whenever she's ready. whores must be PUNSIHED. they must be chained, beaten and whipped. they should be jailed.

>>24731365
If you're a woman and can't get a guy you should honestly just transition.

>>24731371
All the women I met who "couldn't get a guy" always had guys interested in them and friends trying to hook them up with guys they knew.

If you guys were an escort do you think you would find it weird to just get paid to hang out? Cause I mean I've been burning through them like cigs but I actually don't want to fuck anymore she was just cool. I don't know if they'd be cool with that or think 'look at nic care here what a sad cunt'

>>24731409
If you're paying for sex you're already a sad cunt

>>24731409
>look at nic care here what a sad cunt
They probably think that anyway. Honestly I doubt they'd mind, from what I've heard it's not even that uncommon.

Yeah no ffs I know they're hookers and it means nothing. I mean as an hour long transaction is it any worse paying for fake affection than fake orgasms. Insulted that you would think I was inquiring about feelings like where are we

>>24731422
Use the reply function you fucking retard

>>24731289
My ex went through a cock carousel after my break up and sometimes I see her posts about having a traditional family life and what not.
I don't know who she's trying to fool because almost everyone in her social circle knows the kind of person she is.

>>24731434
I dont know where my own front door is

Basic problem with women right prove me wrong

>hot ones: evil
>still hot but kind of sweaty and trackpantsy ones: nice people but come with kids and redneck boyfriends all over

Is this not a pattern?

>>24731409
No, because ultimately what you're really paying for is their time. You could ask them to play Halo with you if you wanted.

I have a bad addiction of watching TV shows I've already seen before. It lets me relax and pass the time. Pass the time... more like waste my time. Waste my life. I should get rid of all the screens in my room. I want to get back to when I was reading and writing for several hours a day, when reading less than 200 pages a day was a failed day. Someone come and save me from my television purgatory.

>>24731466
It is a bit more than that though, it's a grey area. I could give you a tenner to play vidya with me and it wouldnt be yhe same

>tfw not quite eros
>tfw not quite totally platonic either
>tfw not looking to put my penis anywhere but a guy wont do the job


What do I offer to pay for this? Everything ot nothing? I might just go back to that hotel and ask that obviously lesbian barmaid gor my bag back.

>>24731480
I didn't mean hiring anyone was the equivalent of hiring a sex worker, I just meant you can whatever you want with a sex worker. Sex is available but you can do whatever else so long as you're paying for their time. You can pay her to have dinner with you, join you for a party, read books to you, swim around with you in a pool, or just conversate. Like I said, you're paying for their time with an option for sex. Same rates though, sex or not, unless you try asking and negotiating first I guess.

>>24731289
Honestly, as fucked up as it sounds, I look forward to reading about future serial killers. We all know how fucked up the lives of Ted Bundy and Ed Kemper were, now imagine boys today growing up in similar environments with social media.

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>>24731446
think you’re wrong about that.
goodlooking girls are nicer - being attractive gives you good qualities.
a bit like with men: being tall makes you modest, being short makes you proud.

>>24731354
cigs?

>>24731500
good looking women are hit on so much they become very cynical viewing all men as annoying horndogs so they'll probably treat you as disposable or monkeybranchable entertainment

>>24731513
well i guess it always comes down to whether someone likes you in the first place yeah

Aileen Wuornos was a pretty unremarkable serial killer. She was just a petty criminal & total misanthrope. Nothing else to it.

>>24731500
I haven't found this to be true. Cute attractive women can go either way, beautiful women are pure evil. Speaking of which, newest update on the whore/wife situation. She called me up in tears and when I called her back a 'Russian' guy picked up like 'she is busy' and hung up. Now obviously I am quite drunk and I know where she/we live - would it be funny if I got a cab over there and caused some trouble? And dont play me boys cause I'll literally carry out the first suggestion anyone gives me. I am totally incapable of physical violence btw I would literally just be paying to get stabbed

>>24731587
wtf

uh, just leave it be, anon.

>>24731255
oh fuck you’re right

>>24731411
Dating is paying too

>>24731609
Yeah I dont even care. She does it to herself on purpose to get my 'rescue' nerve going. She had a safe life/partner and she got bored of it so fucking enjoy I suppose. Still brutal though

actually never seen a cuck fetish this close up before.
more to it than you’d think.

>>24731634
I did wonder about this but are you a cuck if you genuinely hate getting cucked? Isn't that just jealousy? Anyway thanks for the extra mental chaos bro

Braindead Man, Only Capable Of Scrolling 4chan And Masturbating, To Be Euthanized

Sell your data

An In-N-Out opened up in my city so now my folks and I get it once a week, pretty neat. Brings me back to my childhood back when I used to live in Vegas and California and my mother would bring it back from her job nearby all the time. Comfy.

>>24731638
i think you probably have to hate it. it's not as disgusting and rib-achingly horrible if it's not true. all these long tryhard performative larps you see on /lit/, the poster is always getting something out of it.

>>24731666
>the poster is always getting something out of it.
release of anger and frustration and heartbreak? typical 666 post

>>24731666
Ive literally watched footage of my wife getting railed by multiple guys in a dirty car lot stairwell. It was actually not performative and not as hilarious as you think. I'm in tremendous pain all of the time and if you think it's funny to troll me about it knock yourself out. But beware that's what you get if you chase love/beauty.

>>24731671
the tone gives it away. it’s too constructed. when someone’s really going through something, they wouldn’t be framing it in a way that reads like a melodramatic plot twist.

>typical 666 post
even if someone did entertain the notion it might be true, it still comes off as distasteful, a peculiar little breach of confidence, the sort of thing you really ought to keep to yourself rather than parading it in a place like this.

I do not dislike the essence of who you are.

>>24731685
>love/beauty
a step too far to include these two words in this grubby act you’re doing

a few days ago i wrote a comment about how people who are still attached to anonymous posting in 2025 are mentally ill, and that every healthy person has already moved on to having small, closed-off circles with friends who they can discuss their interests with instead. unfortunately, i failed that bar. since the age of 16 (when my mental illness got very bad), virtually all my socializing has taken place anonymously, and on the couple occasions where i did make friends it just didn't work out. it is rare for broken people to admit they are broken because they're so steeped in self-defense mechanisms, but i will gladly admit to you i'm broken, and despite all my attempts to change, nothing has worked. i feel like a person with no arms or legs cast into a well at birth and told to climb back out. there is no anger, resentment, confusion, or longing. i'm just striving every day to escape, like a POW.

>>24731688
Look, last time I was on the receiving end of a cheating partner, I was fortunate enough to have friends I could talk to, which I did plenty, believe me, plus I wasn't browsing 4chan that year. But if I didn't have the friends and was browsing 4chan, yeah, I could see myself having made some kind of post if not several at the time. My point is I understand the impulse, and I'm surprised you do not. That's what this thread is for, miscellanea from /lit/ posters. My only regulation is people who don't read shouldn't post here.

This is my way of saying goodbye

>>24731696
Terrible take my friend, theres a billion places to seek small comunities if thats truly your choice, whats wrong with having this one, singular place to shitpost and exercise for freedom? I already have a gf with whom I've built a life for the past 8 years and a group or loyal irl friends I've known for 16. I also have a positive outlook on life despite my chronic illness; am I mentally ill for posting frogs, giving feeeback to writers, and shitalking Sanderson and Hegel? Surely making such sweeping statements as you do is bound to produce a falsehood.

>>24731698
i posted something bad that happened to me one time on this site. i was fifteen. i was sat in my room. the silence was killing me. i just posted it, one sentence, just to see basically. stared at the screen, responded to no replies, and closed the tab after ten minutes.
this fella is still going strong five hours later

who's your favorite rapper?

>>24731729
nettspend

>>24731731
SLUT TRUCK SLUT TRUCK

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>Searchers after horror haunt strange, far places. For them are the catacombs of Ptolemais, and the carven mausolea of the nightmare countries. They climb to the moonlit towers of ruined Rhine castles, and falter down black cobwebbed steps beneath the scattered stones of forgotten cities in Asia. The haunted wood and the desolate mountain are their shrines, and they linger around the sinister monoliths on uninhabited islands. But the true epicure in the terrible, to whom a new thrill of unutterable ghastliness is the chief end and justification of existence, esteems most of all the ancient, lonely farmhouses of backwoods regions; for there the dark elements of strength, solitude, grotesqueness, and ignorance combine to form the perfection of the hideous.
—t. H. P. LOVECRAFT

I love green tea so much, esp. w/ some ginger & lemon, and maybe a joint hahahahaha.

why is nobody reading these days anymore?
is it because of the internet/technology/tiktok/other cancer?

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>>24729159
>serial killers
>not one involves cereal

>>24731744
Yes. It will only get worse too. In the near future there might be people who have never actually read a whole book in their whole lives but believe they have because they had an LLM summarize it for them.

>>24731744
It's always been a problem. Thankfully women who like brightly covered written porn have been subsidising the industry for centuries, like the January gym members who never show again when the resolution wears off who make it possible to afford new machines they never use. They're also responsible for keeping stationers alive now that school kids in general are slacking on that.

>>24731701
No

>>24731693
Actually it's not very beautiful or lovely but there was a lot of love once. I'm happy now anyway, her gypsy king boxer bf shat himself and refused to tell me where he was after calling me so I "win"

>very aware of how redneck this shit is just pls indulge me for a moment to salvage some bits of my heart

>>24731786
i don’t believe you - was i unclear about that?
you’re just dying to live out this fantasy you’re steamrolling me with unsolicited plot

>>24731791
No believe it or not there are actually people in extense who are this trashy- and I'm a little sci fi reading worm boy. The bullshit we get up to eh?

>>24731796
i don’t want to play along with you!

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Very interesting. lol.
https://youtu.be/phJS3qvIYgA

>>24731803
Play along with me on something else dude cause I am deeply upset and I need some company

Isn't it ironic how the idea of empathy occupies such a central role in modern western ideas of ethics and morality when empathy is far more akin to love insofar that it is wholly amoral? Empathy, like love, can only be an is, not an ought or ought not, one either feels it or one doesn't, it is impossible to make oneself feel it out of any sense of obligation, or to deny it when felt because society says one shouldn't. It exists beyond the spectrum of good and evil or conscious influence.

>>24731808
As does what else?

>>24731813
Beyond good and evil? Love.

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Made myself another cuppa.

>>24731808
>empathy is far more akin to love insofar that it is wholly amoral? Empathy, like love, can only be an is, not an ought or ought not
This isn't really evidenced. You're going to have to define your terms and provide your reasoning, because otherwise you could substitute chocolate or protein powder for empathy and have the same weight of argument.

>>24731817
I'm pretty fucking dumb so forgive me, but I was thinking about empathy after that shooting thing the other week. Kirk was probably misquoted but even if not- surely empathy is just a surplus of information about another person? If you can't handle it and wish to dehumanise the subject surely that's your own failure and not theirs?

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>>24729159
Just finished 2666. The first and last sections were the best, the part about Archimboldi the better of the two. He's literally me. "The part about the killers," was the least interesting section, surprisingly, as the premise of the unsolved murders is what drew me to the book, but it felt like a slog.

>>24730016
TTGL = Tengan Toppa Gurren Lagann? If so, then that.

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I've sometimes thought about just hitting "fuck it" and finding a woman to bear me a child. I want children, I especially want a son, but I can't seem to get a girlfriend, let alone a wife. But I think I know a girl who'd bear me children if I asked her to and we came to some sort of arrangement; an old flame of mine that I'm still on good terms with who already has a daughter by another man.

It would be totally mercenary but there's a kind of cold-blooded part of me that finds that appealing. I want children. I want a son. This chick feels like somebody I could, if not trust, at least make a deal with. Maybe it would work.

But then my rational faculties always kick in and I realize what a shitshow the whole thing would be, and how high the potential for disaster would be, for me personally, even IF I got a son out of it.

>that time they sent me a camp bed in a browning box

Every anime I've watched so far has had pro or neutral pedophilia references.

>>24731870
Having a son actually doesn't make that much difference. You'll have a bro for life but he's never going to be like 'dad, you instilled in me Western values!' Do it for the bro, fix yourself for the rest

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Is it Hallowe'en-time? Spooktober is 61 days, people!

>>24731870
if you got plenty of dough then sure why not go with what you're after

>>24729165
I don't need to write all my physical books down unless I was making a list for insurance purposes. For books I've read I've made an Excel chart.

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>>24731880
The thing is I'm the only male left in my family. My dad's brother has had only daughters, and I myself have no brothers to have sons; I'm the only son my father had. If I don't have a son my family name and line dies out. And I like my family, I like my name and line. My family is a good family and I'd like to continue it with a son to carry on the name and lineage.

I keep trying to actually get married and start a family but it keeps going to shit every time I try, so my thoughts have increasingly turned rather mercenary in terms of a successor.

>>24731933
Well if you're going to be a shit dad to your daughter it does increase the chances that she has kids with someone whose surname she doesn't know or can't give the kid, so...

>tfw I got all high on myself for "winning" a "fight" and getting shitty with some police
>then remembered I'm nearly 40 and don't own a jacket
Yeah sure showed them

I've had consistent heartburn the past two weeks from coffee when I've never had it in my life before. Am I just getting old? This sucks.

>>24731955
Based homeless dude bumming around in some city in a hot climate.

>>24731973
Liverpool. Used to be cold. Probably the fault of darkies immigrating

https://open.spotify.com/track/79FAH9Yh7VLpkUfkTcU0K3?si=pjNqAfqBQv2MevkM6nzIkQ

The irony is I'm the least violent dude in the world, I just have this urge that comes out as OSDM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncmCTvJoyDQ

>>24731977
>Spotify
Faggot.

>>24731977
You might not be violent but you probably suck a lot of dicks.

>>24731996
Ok go buy some artisan records from Matalan. Not my fault bro

>>24732005
Only one. Couple times. I was young.

>>24731268
Maybe try monovision contact lens arrangement? It's okay, a nice middle ground.

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>>24731331
>I've seen what pussy does to a mf and it's much worse.

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>>24732011

>>24731289
>whore (50+ bodycount)
50 bodycount is not a lot, I'm a relatively inexperienced lonely guy in my mid 30s and even I had a 50+ bodycount

>>24732019
You're an outlier moron. 50, let alone double digit it a lot.

>>24732025
>50, let alone double digit it a lot.
it's really not, 160 or 280 is a lot sure

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I wonder how humans instinctually know that an embrace cures the peculiar ache of loneliness. I have never felt good being hugged; as early as I can remember, even as a six-year-old boy, I recall recoiling from hugs and feeling sickness welling in my stomach as arms tightened around me. Though hugs were infrequent—perhaps once a year occurences—each time they would happen, I would feel only indifference or discomfort. Yet at some point during my teenage years, though I had no way to understand it, I would feel the peculiar tension in my body, the tightness in my chest and aches that radiated down my back that I, by instinct alone, knew could only be cured by someone wrapping their arms around me. It never happened, of course. I have never hugged, held hands, kissed, or engaged in any physical touch in my entire life. I only know that it would cure it. I just want to know what particular physiological mechanism informs the body that it needs to be touched, and why.

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>>24732072
Bloody hell man, do you live in shag town?

can I STOP being terrorized by my memories PLEASE? I'll be sitting there minding my own business and then out of nowhere, remembrance of things past of a moment when I did something stupid or made a mistake or otherwise overall failed, and I'm struck with a severe bolt of anxiety and anger. Some days it happens several times, makes me wanna smash my head into the wall until the memories vanish for good. ahhhHHHH

>>24731870
I already settled on a solution to this being cloning myself. Avoid the women as much as possible, avoid the possibility of a daughter.
Unfortunately it's extremely illegal and banned everywhere because it gives people the hecking yuckers. Another billion years of unlimited funding for LLMs it is. ChatGPT will be integrated into your toilet before biotech progresses beyond fucking with lab-mice.
>>24731869
I love the Anti-spiral, idk why.

Without straying too far into politics: Why is it that contemporary literature, especially literature discussed by critics on television programs, always has a slightly left-wing political slant, either because the topics fit into that spectrum or because the authors themselves are somehow “diverse”? Is it precisely about highlighting a wide variety of perspectives, or is it simply a consequence of the personal attitudes of those who select the literature for presentation? I mean, this aspect is not decisive for me when it comes to the quality of a book, but perhaps the selection is simply not particularly interesting to me.

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>>24729178
I think it averages from the far ends of the bell curve. I've seen surprising wisdom and bottom barrel retardation there.

>>24732095
Well, stuff like diaspora literature has a pretty obvious cause. Same with topics of identity and sexuality. These are just the topics writers and readers find relevant right now, and they're not wrong. It's not like there's fiction about, say, increasing taxes on the rich lol or universal single-payer healthcare in the US. So are these topics really political and progressive?

What I will grant is you couldn't write about these topics from the opposite perspective -- say, a novel about a white character having a personal crisis and musing on spiritual decay because they no longer live in a community full of people like them, ie there's too many immigrants and Muslims and people who don't speak English and people dressing outwardly homosexual in public.

>>24732095
It is more than likely influenced by the intellectual disenfranchisement of the right, and the nature of the current literature scene. Literature hasn't always been left-wing, it more or less reflects the cultural attitudes of the dominant institution, for example Catholic virtues in the West or Muslim during the Islamic Golden Age. Finding a publisher for a 'transgressive' novel about a white male experiencing racial violence and oppression in a majority-minority would be little less than impossible. Even more is that rightists turn away from academic institutions which are actively hostile towards right wing views, or are pushed out, and naturally turn away from literature as a result. This has the added effect of making literature seem gay, retarded, and leftist (and modern literature is) only further exacerbating the issue.

I think, however, good literature always tends to be slightly deviant from its host culture. This can easily be mistaken for leftism if "leftism" is merely defined as "different" or rightism as "tradition," both being immensely stupid. I'd even say that modern literature fails precisely because it is too conformist, too uniform, too orthodox in its reiteration of the same old themes of minority oppression and/or bourgeois malaise.

>>24732108
>>24732095
To clarify and emphasize my point: to white, heterosexual men, I can see why themes of immigrant diaspora in Western countries, sexuality, and identity would appear as 'political,' but look at it from their perspective: these are the fundamental elements of the human condition today which require introspection, explication (aka displaying it in art), and a voice. Same with the crisis of God in the early and middle 20th century, for example. You might argue it's not a universal theme, and that's another topic we could go down, but I don't see how it's inherently political is all I'm saying, despite many viewing it as such.

>>24729174
Librarything is better for cataloging books than goodreads

>>24729177
I dunno man, I just live here

>>24729675
If thats so I've owned it all these years and barely ever got laid

>>24729355
I love MES

>>24732152
Why did YOU PERSONALLY cause this to happen?

>>24729159
---- Solaria ----
30012
Lyric

One gets used to the idea of instrumental suites
But there's no fortune like

Joy in such colossal gatherings of the mind
Or Music you can see

As if you were there. always.

>>24731729
MF Doom
(yes, I am a quirked up white boy who only dates latinas)

tfw no gf

>>24732261
You're better off

The biggest blackpill of all is realizing that every women on earth is a vapid whore and you're better off alone. The psychological torment men must endure to be with some fat bitch in this age is unprecedented, and you can see all the cope they dream up in this very thread. Imagine finally getting some fat bitch gf and then contendeding with her past as a massive slut. "Even her?" You might ask, the answer to which will always be "yes". Having to live with the fact that the mother of your children acted like a free call girl for chads in uni turns your insides out.

Be happy alone. Its much easier than dealing with this life of humiliation providing for some reformed slut.

>>24732327
NTA but is it possible for me to become a vampire that sucks the warmth from a tender embrace, even if I know she is a vicious whore that wants a better male?

>>24732333
That's what you should do. Use them like the whores they are.

>>24731617
Copium maximum. My wife makes the same money I do and sinve im sickly she takes upon herself to do more chores around the house.

>no dude you dont understand, you like, pay with your time, all relationships are transactional dude

Fuck off, we were both broken as shit when we met eachother. If I didnt wanted to spend time with her, I woudnt. I hate shaded, surrendered people like you who pretend theres no diferece betwen whoring and forming a lifelong bond with a partner.

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This one caught me off-guard. Not only the book showed the transcript of the tape the murderer recorded, It also showed the photo of the kid taken right before she was murdered. WTF

I am only loved when I act like a clown. Then I am loved well by others. When I do not act like a clown my mood is called into question and I am presumed troubled. I guess that means I play the clown well. But I am not a clown. I am a serious person who only acts like a clown so that I will be loved.

tfw from kazakhstan

the greatest danger to mankind is actually the cracker race, they are a danger to themselves and towards all other species on earth, and the most brutal weapon: the internet, and the tip of the spear: this website, should be deleted from the face of the earth by any means necessary
no compromises, no dialogue, only death

>>24732556
Please. This is a containment site for losers like you.

Viva la muerte!

>>24732354
>shaded, surrendered people
what?

One day, I had this thought, what if my reality is just a dream? It felt more like a realization rather than just a stray thought. It was like a very grim realization that I wasn't prepared to handle in any way. If my reality is a dream, then that means everyone is a projection of my unconscious psyche, so I started to panic. The feeling of loneliness hit me hard. I heard the phrase "dark night of the soul" before, and I didn't know what that phrase was supposed to mean, but for some reason it rang true in my head in that moment.
Any of you guys know about this idea I had? have you ever thought about this before?

Why are tips based on the percentage of the cost? That doesn't make sense to me. For example, a $10 plate of food vs a $200 plate of food is the same amount of work to deliver to the table for the waitress. There's no added value in what the waitress does with the $200 plate of food.

>>24733000
I think the logic behind it is that if you're rich enough to pay for $300 worth of food, you're rich enough to tip more than a dollar.

>>24732957
>t. descartes

>>24733166
According to Descartes, a good God proves that solipsism isn't real. But the God of the Old testament doesn't really sound like a good God, but the God of the new testament does
So how can I know if God is good? If God isn't good, then solipsism might be true, according to Descartes at least
This is like one of the reasons why I started looking into gnosticism, because it doesn't really make sense to me that the God of the Old testament is supposed to be good

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I am 34 and 4 years ago I took the "build some shit on your own" pill and quit my dead-end job. I opened a shop for something I liked and it did (and does) good. I had enough to get a small but decent salary but I decided to hire somebody and open a second shop thinking I would wait a bit more before funneling some money to me. It opened last month and it's been slow. I am very frightened and growing impatient. I have not felt this shook since my teens. If it all works I will be good. If it fails I will be in very deep shit. I will do my best. Please pray for me, please, give me the strength, I just wanted to feel something and now I really fucking do.

>>24733219
Your business will fail. You will lose everything. I have foreseen it.

I put down $50K that we go to war with China in 2028.

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Do I hate being around people because I hate being around my family and I just naturally assume everyone is just like them if I get to know them long enough? Or is it because I operate on a different wavelength than most and have yet to find someone of my kind, somewhere I belong? One thing is for certain, if I spend more time with selfish conceited retards Imma go blasting

I miss you.

>>24732957
>t. Butterfly dreaming that it's a man.
>>24733219
Give it time. Investing into a new business without having the money to keep it afloat for a couple years while it establishes itself is always a risk.
Anyway, any tips for escaping wageslavery?

>>24733392
I would miss you if I ever knew you.

>>24733388
Socially maladjusted people tend to project their behavior on others. Meaning that, if your family was anything like I imagine it is, they pretty much taught you misanthropy-lite for the day you were born.
I suggest reading about narcissism, narcissistic parenting and complex ptsd. Even if you or your family don't fit those criteria, reading about it will challenge some views you have about others and the place they come from.

>>24733409
>from the day
Fix'd.

>>24733409
>Socially maladjusted people tend to project their behavior on others.
This stupid line of thought always irks me. It's ass-backwards. It's belief in the One True Behavior™