wait a second, so you're telling me that america's strategy to defeat communism in china was to offshore literally all of their industry there and just wait for the chinese to magically convert into capitalists for some reason?give me your best book recs to understand this civilisation wrecker of a political decision
>>24732286>america's strategy to defeat communismOffshoring was done to crush domestic labor. The myth that China would inevitably liberalize is just a post-hoc justification for that action.
The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit by E Michael Jones
>>24732350any book recs for this? I find the deindustrialization of the USA/Western Europe/"Free world" after the fall of the Soviet Union (even during the existence of?) interesting.
>>24732286>dude this obvious /pol/ thread is ok because I put “book recs” in the OPkys
>>24732350>Offshoring was done to crush domestic laborah, so it was just another one of the thousands of cases where industrialists and lobbyists fucked over the common man to further enrich themselves?>>24732371i am being 100% earnest here, i want some recs for this entire event and the thinking behind it because this is one of the most pivotal things that has happened in western civilisation and it's like, everybody just sort of skims over it for some reasonalso i really don't like /pol/
>>24732286No.And I believe the first company to enter China ina a 49/51 ownership split was Volkswagen, not an American company.
>>24732375>so it was just another one of the thousands of cases where industrialists and lobbyists fucked over the common man to further enrich themselvesEssentially, but the influx of cheap goods into the american market made it so most people didn't experience a drop in their quality of life, actually a lot of them benefitted from it in the short term. >>24732362I can't personally vouch for any books on this exact subject but it goes hand in hand with private equity and economic financialization. There are a lot of books on deindustrialization and finding one that discusses it in light of those other subjects might help. I'd be interested in those recs myself
>>24732388that's another thing that gets me - how shortsighted all of these western car manufacturers have been in regards to selling in china but needing to enter into joint ventures with local chinese companiesthey were addicted to those money bags as if it were a drug and now it's finally all coming back to rip them a new one>>24732414>Essentially, but the influx of cheap goods into the american market made it so most people didn't experience a drop in their quality of life, actually a lot of them benefitted from it in the short term.sure, but it was only ever going to end one way and we all know what a catastrophe that way is
>>24732424There are no losers as far as the sincere capitalist is concerned.China and the car companies were enriched. China became more capitalist.That a bunch of flyover fags want to stick around dead towns and get addicted to fent instead of moving to areas where their labor is in demand is a them problem. Capitalism doesn't promise that you get to live in the same cornfield forever.
>>24732375>also i really don't like /pol/I'm sure you don't, because everyone there is a /pol/tard like you.If you don't want to read posts by people like you what makes you think we want to read your posts? Go the fuck back, retard. >>>/pol/
I haven't read this despite having had it for several years but it touches upon this topic to a certain degree. The gambit succeeded in making China a capitalist (state authoritarian) nation, but clearly the goal of democratization as was seen with S. Korea and Taiwan didn't work, with CCP leadership having been cognitive of this potential along with fear of foreign led color revolution (see their response to protestors in 1989). I'm not sure if any CCP leadership is on the record of their strategy, but the quote often attributed to Lenin of "The capitalists will sell us the rope we hang them with" really captures what happened here.https://a.co/d/9s1gmEj>>24732371>>24732595Shut up retard, political topic/book threads are allowed here, and this one is clearly not politically incorrect anyway.
>>24732626Deng did have this to say, and China scholars have argued that the rise of Xi signaled that China wasn't to hide its capacities anymore.
>>24732286The Chinese did convert into capitalism in a big way. The idea was actually that increased economic freedom and mobility would translate into more political freedom, that did not happen. But it doesn’t matter, once Chinas growth begins to slow down they’ll face the same problems as US.
>>24732286culture of critique
>>24732286>be sailor of your nations elite carrier strike group>your fleet has run wild for six months, scoring victory after victory>but each ship and plane is nearly irreplaceable because your nation’s industrial capacity is minuscule >your enemy, whose industrial capacity outnumbers yours several hundred times is replacing its warships much faster than you can sink them and you fear it is only a matter of time until you are ground down to defeat.be America in 2030. Pic unrelated “Japan 1941 Countdown to Infamy” by Eri Hotta might be a good place to start. Really gets into the arrogance and cluelessness of the pre war Japanese elite. Might help you understand why elites who should know better misjudge catastrophically poor odds and bet the lives of their fellow countrymen with the recklessness of a newly divorced dad on a whiskey fueled trip to Vegas.
>>24732713the entire japanese theatre during WW2 is so interesting from a sociological perspective, you can really learn a lot about the japanese as a whole by analysing that periodthe battle of midway always stands out to me as a microcosm of that portion of the war; it was initially smooth sailing but problems slowly started to pile up without being attended to until they started piling up exponentially and then it was too late and that sealed their fate in the war and their society was irrevocably changed because of iti'll check that book out, thanks anon
>>24732565>That a bunch of flyover fags want to stick around dead towns and get addicted to fent instead of moving to areas where their labor is in demand is a them problem.this seems like a really fucking stupid thing to say and you sound like a massive faggot. Can you elaborate? Leave rust belt towns to go work in cities that require labor in what occupations/fields exactly? Cities that aren't already full of fent zombies? Do these rust belt retards need to come shit on your door step?
>>24732286The Accidental Superpower by Peter Zeihan is a great explainer on how the modern world works. It changed the way I think about geopolitics a lot. He wrote the book in 2014, and had a very clear and easy to understand explanation about why Russia must inevitably invade Ukraine by 2021, so he was only off by a year.Read it and you will understand some fundamentals of trade and globalization.>pic related, it's from the book
>>24733071Russia had already invaded Crimea in 2014 so it's a good educated guess. But what's the central thesis here?
>>24732286>of a political decisionIt's not a political decision, it's millions of individual business decisions. In other words, it's the free market.
>>24733250>Free market chose communist dictatorshipAustrian bros… not like this…
Youll see. The CCP will falter with Xis death and within a decade of that you will have a west friendly China that will be a huge economic partner to help our development.Its absolutely the right move to catapult our nations further than we could on our own. It took 14 years to just get rid off Assad, but in the end we won. Wars against biger players even Iraq, Libya, will take longer especially against behemoths like the Soviet Union or China.Its not uncommon for wars to be centuries and these are civilization defining wars that will last centuries until the obvious victor (the white man) will reign supreme.
Francis Fukuyama freaking out over China has been pretty funny, he's really worried they basically disprove his "end of history" thesis by industrializing and becoming an advanced nation without also becoming a liberal democracy.
>>24732371This is an actual discussion about politics and not just seething about the existence of trans people.
>>24733275>industrializing and becoming an advanced nationHow could he have said that? Did he not know about the Soviet Union?
>>24733281He was writing after the collapse of the Soviets so he considered them losers as a result.
>>24733269White man is already facing forced checkmate. Best case scenario now is a victory for his hapastizo son o algo
>>24733295EVERYBODY'S birth rates are going down, China's are even worse than ours. White people aren't going to particularly and uniquely go extinct, there's just going to be less people of every race in general.Ironically, White people might do better than some races 100 or 200 years from now because we've got the Amish, the Mormons, and the TradCaths on our side, aka the White people that don't use birth control.
>>24733275Back in the 90s it was widely believed that the Eastern Bloc becoming western liberal democracies is what had just happened
>>24733297That’s true but white people face the unique challenge of the fact that their mixed offspring are not white. In the future there is only going to be more and more miscegenation, the global decline of birth rates doesn’t counteract this - it merely means white people are not going to be wholesale replaced by a foreign race but by their own mutt progeny. Future of Earth is basically planet Brazil, a more white adjacent aristocracy ruling a more black adjacent underclass.
>>24733307Eh, I don't know. To me, the future of the Earth is basically the past: a return to the Ancient and Medieval worlds with kingdoms, empires, and republics everywhere and no major hegemons. No global empire, America's is collapsing and the Chinese don't really want one.
>>24733322The world is so interconnected now that any major power is inherently a global power. It’s not about the world being led in one ideological direction or another, it’s that the economic centre of gravity becomes a unifying force just by necessity. There’ll still be mass migration, multinational corporations, global academic collaboration, and ceaseless technological innovation. The world will only get smaller and smaller, short of an apocalyptic event.
