can anyone who knows what they're talking about recommend a path/point of entry to analytic philosophy i am reading fear and trembling and there is direct reference to hegel who i attempted to read but find unparseableall the overviews of western philosophi i can find are school of life type self help bullshit so i have nowhere left to askthe first reply to this will inevitably be some glib meme free of content like "start with the greeks" or "read the sticky". i dont want to become a specialist in ancient greek/pre-greek literature or whatever the fuck that "how to read a book" chart is doing.the charts posted to the sticky are all sophomoric memes made as a joke by schizophrenic groypers who all they do is collect and curate wikipedia abstracts. swaths of that shit just no one outside specialist historians is ever reading. you cannot tell me the original Lavoisier's Elements of Chemistry is a worthwhile time investment relative to how commonly it is recommended, by people who don't realize they're recommending it. You can't tell me the typical poster is writing with a working memory and understanding of the contents of Fourier's original Analytical Theory of Heat. This is an educational trajectory an 8 year old with google search would imagine.
>>24732373>>24732373Analytic philosophy is generally referencing Cambridge centered thinkers before and after world war one. Bertrand Russell and Ludwig Wittgenstein were working on something like a perfect logical language that can unify maths and sciences. Analytic philosophy is very strict about definitions, and proceeds systematically from one definition to others and to axioms and other follow up logic. Their writings often identify a particular philosophical problem, and start to define and discuss the main terms in a way that attempts to create a solid and useful framework. Historically emerging from those two Cambridge guys, it's the dominant approach in American universities, and it's lineage heavily influences philosophy of natural language which made big contributions to NLMs.Hegel is not analytic philosophy. He was earlier and was the crowning achievement of German Idealism. It's very distinctive and contrasts analytic philosophy in a big way. Hegel requires at least a basic understanding of the project of German idealism, so you need to be familiar with the Kant Fichte Schelling lineage that leads to Hegel. I don't mean super fucking familiar, I would recommend getting a better grasp on Kants major contributions than the other two, but understanding the approach and goals of schelling and fichte is enough to broach Hegel. That's if you really want to crack Hegel, and Hegel is a huge project that could take years to actually get a good grasp of. It will feel like you're a blind man trying to get an idea of an elephant, touching each part one at a time, not really understanding what it is by the small bits you're acquiring slowly, it takes time for the full picture to even begin to develop, but with regular reading it happens.I think what you're really asking for is an entry point to western philosophy as a whole which is more of an umbrella that would include Hegel and the analytics together. Bertrand Russell's book History of Western philosophy might be what you're looking for. For some that's a Gold Standard for getting caught up on western thought, from the Greeks up to the analytics. And it would even be a good starting point if your goal were to read Hegel. If you want to rush into Hegel, I would recommend reading the Stanford encyclopedia of philosophy pages on kant fichte and schelling.Then you will have a better time approaching Hegel, and the Marxist internet archive is a great resource for hegelian philosophy. There are all sorts of commentaries of various detail and plenty of hegels writing on marxists.org. you can peruse the resources there and find your own approach.I was trained classically in philosophy at university. I'll be happy to revisit this page for discussion.
>>24732680I've actually read and written about that book I can actually just reread it and discuss it here. I have no hope of an academic career in philosophy so if I can at least larp here itd be a decent consolation
OP there is a starting point for everyone. I would recommend watching a long form lecture on Kierkegaard or at least a sincere podcast. Avoid pop philosophy videos. You'll notice a sprinkling in of concepts, sometimes you'll notice the speaker go on a tangent about the origin or nuance of the concept. Baby steps, Rome wasn't built in a day. Of course anyone serious about philosophy can't escape some dose of Plato and Aristotle, not to accept everything they said but to be aware of the concepts and concerns that started it all.Sure feel free to dip into analytic philosophy, but be aware of the existence of even post-analytic philosophy where some have already started moving on from the program because of limitations and assumptions that can't be reconciled. Don't be that guy that guy in the meme where he stands in the corner of the party where the Chad continental flexes his knowledge of the history of philosophy and not having gotten bogged down on problems that turned out not to be problems at all. Anyway, enjoy the journey.
does anyone have opinions on Kenny's Brief History of Western Philosophy
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>>24732373>can anyone who knows what they're talking about recommend a path/point of entry to analytic philosophyDepends on what you're interested in -- aesthetics? metaethics? phil of mind? -- but just google "metaethics introductory textbook" and look for one that's mostly a compilation of papers with introductory/contextual apparatus. If you're more specific about what exactly you're looking for, I can help more. But "point of entry to analytic philosophy" is too broad. It's like saying "can anyone recommend a point of entry to prose." >fear and tremblingThis isn't really analytic philosophy.>hegelThis isn't really analytic philosophy either.
>>24732373keep in mind that listening to lectures is a lot more digestible than directly reading the primary sources. sugrue gets suggested a lot for this, and it's for good reason. good luck.
>>24732373Roger Scruton's Modern Philosophy: An Introduction and Survey is a good introduction to 17th century-to-present philosophy from someone who was trained in the Analytic tradition. Scruton was also a big fan of Hegel, so you'll get a nice dose of Hegel from the book, though it's definitely Scruton's take on Hegel.Copleston's multi-volume History of Western Philosophy is a good read, though I'm not sure how approachable it is for a beginner. I've read parts of it and haven't found it to be terribly obscure, but I also have an advanced degree in philosophy so take what I say with a grain of salt.If you're looking for lectures on Youtube, the Arthur Holmes history of philosophy is supposed to be quite good, although I haven't listened to it myself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yat0ZKduW18&list=PL9GwT4_YRZdBf9nIUHs0zjrnUVl-KBNSM
>>24732373https://plato.stanford.edu/contents.htmlTake a walk, fren. :) (Use this as a starting point)
>>24732373real accessible analytic philosophy. paradigm work meant for laymen
>>24732373You won't understand any philosophy without reading the Greeks.
>>24732680What's up with the difference between Cambridge and Oxford in the field of intellectual history?
