>His Principia Mathematica side hustle imploded. Gödel the God-fearing Christian ruined it.>He had epistemological trolls that any atheist Reddit neckbeard could have come up with and that were less sophisticated than those of Sextus Empiricus and Hume.>His theory of descriptions was completely unnecessary, a midwit answer to something only midwits see as a problem ("[Meinong] argued, if you say that the golden mountain does not exist, it is obvious that there is something that you are saying does not exist -- namely the golden mountain; therefore the golden mountain must subsist in some shadowy Platonic world of being, for otherwise your statement that the golden mountain does not exist would have no meaning. I confess that, until I hit upon the theory of descriptions, this argument seemed to me convincing.")>Even his stupid paradox in naive set theory that bears his name had been prefigured elsewhere in letters from Zermelo.>Continental scholars routinely demonstrated his misunderstandings of Continental philosophers, toward whom he had emotional, Anglocuck revulsions unbecoming of a thinker.
>>24734677>Principia MathematicaInvented things people re-discouvering again.>epistemological trollsNo idea what you're talking about>theory of descriptionsYou're an idiot.The theory is very helpful.
>>24734677People who dont believe in cause and effect (people who believe in what is essentially magic) are in no position to lecture anyone about 'logic' per se.
>>24734727There's no substance to your post whatsoever. Why didn't you just say yourself the trouble and post "nah u wrong"?
>>24734741Oh please, your atheist friends are so buttblasted that they're literally going around trying to pretend that quantum foam is what philosophers mean by 'nothing'.
>>24734766Least gullible christ poster. You've misunderstood pop science communicators as philosophers, then bawk at it as if it's the atheist-position. Genius!Tell me some more about your superhero-rabbi who saved humanity. Supremely gullible moron.
>>24734677>>His Principia Mathematica side hustle imploded. Gödel the God-fearing Christian ruined it.No, Godel ruined Hilbert's program, Bertrand's logicist foundations was a completely different program which Godel did not refute. the rest of your post doesn't merit response.
>>24734677You believe in jewish fairytales.
>>24735819>You've misunderstood pop science communicators as philosophersMost developed atheist reading comprehension.
>>24735819>Least gullible christ poster.>>24736241>You believe in jewish fairytales.Non sequitur. Nothing in OP's post allows one to infer that OP is a Christian. The only mention of anything Christian is "Gödel the God-fearing Christian ruined it," which says nothing about OP's own beliefs.Way to prove the point.
>>24734677Nice. Still wouldn't change the fact that religion and belief in God is a sham and a grift.
>>24735825He absolutely showed that PM had misguided goals, pseud.
>>24734677His book on how to shape society with the scientific method deserves to be mentioned.>His theory of descriptions care to elaborate I don't understand the point.
>>24734677Atheists are uniformly subversives who just want to fuck trannies, this is what their modern descendants have taught me.Presumably we will round them all up and put them in labor camps soon, as they deserve. Tap tap tap that salt off the wall for me, Fedora, ting ting ting, come on. You could spend your entire life playing with test tubes and it won't season one dish, come now. Tap tap tap.
>>24734677There are some people who are famous because they have means and status, even though they are clearly retards and have done nothing worth knowing. Any normal person wouldn't get very far without being ejected or wising up. This man is one of the most egregious examples in modern history. I can't believe people still recommend him sometimes.
>>24737620>I can't believe people still recommend him sometimes.Also this fact single-handedly shook my faith in academia back then. That the inertia propelling this troglodyte was still present, not a lick of merit behind it. It made me reconsider if anyone actually knows what the fuck they're talking about.
>>24734677It’s not that atheists are bad at logic it’s that they inappropriately believe they posses the capacity to intuit a supreme entity such as God in the first place as more than anything but an idea.A problem for many atheists is that because they feel they have disproven aspects of organized religion which aren’t inherent proofs of God but rather moral axioms, they feel as if they’ve disproved God as a legitimate concept in and of itself which is completely retarded.
>>24737250We're literally building AI that's going to lock you disgusting religious vermin in cages and torture you. You're never going to win and you're not putting anyone in camps. You're an impotent seething incel.
>>24737673The AI is Christian.
nah u wrong
>>24737673>We're literally building AIYour AI hallucinates sources that don't exist and can't even pass the CAPTCHA Turing test, fedora. You'll be crying into your tendies when this bubble pops. It's already started, with headlines out there reporting that at least 95% of companies have blown money on overhyped generative AI for paltry or even negative returns.
I believe in God, but I will never, ever be a christcuck. Only thing I'm left with is, if it isn't the desert sprite from Christianity, who or what can be truly called our "God"?
>>24734766You dont understand physics and you literally believe in magic. Sorry religion fags but this is the silver bullet to your entire retarded outlook and you always get foaming at the mouth mad when someone brings up this little fact you try so hard to hide.You believe in magic. You do not understand cause and effect.
Bertrand: "I'm smart, therefore I'm right, so anyone who disagrees with me is wrong because they're stupid. No, I'm not going to validate my wisdom, why should I? It's good for believers in metaphysics."Bertrand fans: "I'm smart. U stupid. We science."His philosophy is a distillation of British empiricism to the point of retardation.
>>24736241>I disagree with atheists>"YOU'RE A FUCKING JEW, ANON!"why is this so common?
>>24739414Well, hatred of Christianity is deeply Jewish, and all of contemporary atheism, through leftism, is permeated with it. That's why left-wing atheism is so self-destructive, because its main driving force is a reluctance to embrace the foundations of Western culture, which transcend the very religion that founded it.
>>24734677I'm not too fond of Russell but once I got into analytical philosophy, I couldn't read again any continental trash.
>>24739435Analytic philosophy is, in fact, very intelligent and rational. The problem is that it is completely detached from reality, because it is based on a vision of Reason that is not true. It is a typical philosophical ivory tower.Continental philosophy is not a monolith, as the English would have you believe. It is diverse. And if it is retarded, it is only because it touches on the essence of humanity, which lies beyond the narrow vision of Reason. This is why most contemporary living philosophy follows the continental line – Foucault, for example, may have spouted nonsense, but "there is something to it" – he speaks of something important and elusive. Nessbaum or Taleb are the good old "we reject everything that is not rational, therefore – trans women are women" philosophy. Perhaps if it weren't connected to leftist media, this philosophy would be more creative, but it is what it is.
>>24739460an actually good post on here. I salute.
>>24737082>Nothing in OP's post allows one to infer that OP is a Christian.Me when I have the pattern recognition skills of a downie
>>24734677Bertrand Russell's actual contribution to philosophy is void. He is the archetypal midwit. While based Gödel and Wittgenstein continue to dab on him even in their graves
>>24739366>You dont understand physicsHey, midwit, Krauss' rookie mistake was so appalling that even the atheist physicists in the Skeptical Inquirer didn't want to be associated with it:https://web.physics.wustl.edu/alford/reviews/Krauss_Nothing.html
>>24739435>I'm not too fond of Russell but once I got into analytical philosophy, I couldn't read again any continental trash.Russell was a drag on analytic philosophy.
>>24739460>And if it is retarded, it is only because it touches on the essence of humanity, which lies beyond the narrow vision of Reason.You're embarrassing yourself by using the term "reason" incorrectly. You should be saying "understanding". Capitalizing Reason like that is a German idealist move but you're buggering it.
>>24737090Wrong. Principia Mathematica fell out of relevance because set theory is so much simpler. Godel had nothing to do with it.
>>24739460I couldn't disagree more. I recognise that continental philosophy has a broader scope and, comparatively, seems to cover more questions immediate to our reality, but that's not the case, not all analytic philosophy is strictly foundational, and I share the view expressed above about Russell's questionable relevance. He no doubt popularised an emergent approach to philosophical enquiry but, in the end, his contributions proved slight and were quickly settled within his own lifetime. Not everything is about the principia or the tractatus, it is a broad tradition, moreover, far from endorsing atheism (analytic Thomism has a considerable number of exponents). There are philosophers of language, yes, but also philosophers who deal with aesthetics, identity, epistemology, and ethics.Continental philosophy is retarded not because it touches on a sensitive subject (quite the opposite in my opinion, for decades now no contemporary continental philosopher has undertaken the least metaphysical or ontological work) but because it has no method, at least not since Bergson, who was the end of lineage from Descartes' analytic method. A large part of these philosophies produces hundreds of pages out of gross category mistakes, linguistic problems, and a lack of definition that a grotesque inflation of jargon failed to allay. In her lexicon to Deleuze, Buydens wrote “smooth space is a space of proximity, of intense affects, unpolarised and open, unmeasurable, anorganic and populated by events or haecceities. Smooth space is opposed to striated space, that is, metric, extensive and hierarchical. To the former are associated nomadism, becoming and haptic art; to the latter, sedentarism, the metaphysics of subjectivity and optical art.” Who can seriously believe that this gibberish has any meaning?A great Hellenist, Martin L. West, said of scholars that their role was not to bring obscurity into what is clear, but to illuminate what is obscure (non fumum ex fulgore, sed ex fumo dare lucem). That is clearly not the case for a large part of the post-war European philosophical tradition. Besides, I find the clarity and concern for rigour of analytic philosophy in medieval scholasticism, and right through Spinoza, Descartes, Leibniz and even, in a sense, Kant, proof alone that it is not a British excrescence but a return to a valuable methodology capable of producing something other than ill-formed propositions and crude intuitions.
>>24739725>continental philosophy is hard to read>who the fuck knows what this sentence could mean!>philosophy should be written in clear, ordinary language that's easy as shit to understandYou can't think in a genuinely unusual way about reality using plain language. Your critique is lazy and stupid, you had me going at first, I thought it might be a legit effortpost, but no, you make the same vague, pseud objections as any other 15 year old on this site.
>>24735825>Bertrand's logicist foundations was a completely different program which Godel did not refute.You're not understanding the "baby's first" texts that you're reading. Godel destroyed the logicist approach to foundations. Other approaches like modern set theory, proof theory, and category theory are in opposition to the logicist approach and a response to Godel's fatal blow.>>24739692>Godel had nothing to do with it. Principia Mathematica fell out of relevance because set theory is so much simpler. Modern set theoretic foundations developed in response to Godel destroying logicist foundations, you dummy.
