>“In law school he had committed acts which had formerly seemed to him of great vileness and had inspired a feeling of self-loathing in him at the time he committed them; but subsequently, seeing that such acts were also committed by highly placed people and were not considered bad, he, without really thinking them good, forgot all about them and was not troubled in the least by the memory of them.”Is it accurate to say that the Death of Ivan Ilyich is about the life and death of a closeted gay man in 19th century Russia? Isn't that the real reason he loathed his wife so much? Why his only happiness in his last days was when he could wear his legs around Gerasim's neck? (And wasn't that kind of exploitative?) I suppose at that point, he just didn't GAF anymore.
yeah you got it man it was because he was gay.
>>24735926Do you think Tolstoy was also gay?
>>24736028I don't know, what you think? I probably agree.
>>24736032I'm going to go back and re-read AK and W&P to find the gay references. There must be stuff I missed first time through, now that Ivan lyich has revealed the secret key to all the works of Tolstoy.
>>24736035godspeed man, you're doing important work here.
>>24736042I found another gay passage>“It occurred to him that those barely noticeable impulses he had felt to fight against what highly placed people considered good, barely noticeable impulses which he had immediately driven away—that they might have been the real thing, and all the rest might have been not right. ”
>24735816 (You)I hate 2025 so much
>>24736611Was confused why Anna killed herself, but makes sense now I know she's gay. Was confused by Pierre Bezuhov's existential troubles, but makes sense now I know he's gay. Was confused with myself, but makes sense non I know that I'm gay.
>>24735816He was Russian. That whole nation is about getting fucked in the ass, they even take pride how gaped their nation's soul's collective ass is compared to the West. There is always a gospodin shaped hole between every Russian serf's asscheeks>inb4 a /pol/ rantSo, to add to the discussion. Yeah, he was gay.
>>24735816He probably just means visiting brothels.
>"I have never been in love with women. I have very often been in love with men; my first love was the two Pushkins, then the second – Saburov, then the third Zybin and Dyakov, the fourth Obolensky, Blosfeld, Islavin, then Gautier and many others. Of all these people I still love only Dyakov. For me the chief sign of love is the fear of offending or not pleasing the object of one’s love; simply fear. I fell in love with men before I had any idea of the possibility of pederasty; but even when I knew about it, the idea of the possibility of coitus never occurred to me. . . . here is the case of Dyakov; but I shall never forget the night when we were travelling from Pirogovo, and, wrapped up underneath a travelling rug, I wanted to kiss him and cry. There was sensuality in that feeling, but why it took that course it’s impossible to decide because, as I said, my imagination never painted any lubricious pictures; on the contrary, I have a terrible aversion to all that."Leo Tolstoy's diary, 29 November 1851>In one letter, Tolstoy wrote Chertkov that they loved each other "unlawfully, more than brotherly."
>>24736708That’s not from his diary its from a work of fiction and his wife always mocked him for it in their later years because she was a hysterical bitch
>>24736708That's very interesting!
Gosh he loves Gerasim>“His moral sufferings consisted in the fact that, looking at Gerasim’s sleepy, good-natured, high-cheekboned face that night, it had suddenly occurred to him: And what if my whole life, my conscious life, has indeed been “not right”?”
He hates his wife so much>“Her clothes, her figure, the expression of her face, the sound of her voice—all told him one thing: “Not right. All that you’ve lived and live by is a lie, a deception, concealing life and death from you.” And as soon as he thought it, his hatred arose and together with hatred his tormenting physical sufferings and with his sufferings the consciousness of near, inevitable destruction.”
>“He hates her with all the forces of his soul. And her touch makes him suffer from a flood of hatred for her.”
