He was right about literally everything and you people laugh at him.“In his dreadful lassitude and objectless rage, Cobain seemed to have give wearied voice to the despondency of the generation that had come after history, whose every move was anticipated, tracked, bought and sold before it had even happened. Cobain knew he was just another piece of spectacle, that nothing runs better on MTV than a protest against MTV; knew that his every move was a cliché scripted in advance, knew that even realising it is a cliché. The impasse that paralysed Cobain in precisely the one that Fredric Jameson described: like postmodern culture in general, Cobain found himself in ‘a world in which stylistic innovation is no longer possible, where all that is left is to imitate dead styles in the imaginary museum’.”
It’s almost like the Bible warned you in vivid detail that this was going to happen, and the only consolation is a serious and private life of unceasing prayer and faith.
>>24742962I just think people like him offer snake oil as a consolation prize. Like all communists and communist-adjacent thinkers. Apparently he was a borderline Trotskyist who as an academic would see errors in common sense assumptions when that's totally missing the point. For as much as they talk of "lived experiences" they can't seem to extend that towards people they otherwise would condemn for being "backwards"
>>24742962the only modern political writer of Fisher's caliber and providence is Benjamin Studebaker, which is a shame because he looks and sounds like a total nerd
>i'm too old to enjoy pop rock on mtv>capitalism has failed!the absolute state of leftist theory lmaooooooo
>>24743159I mean, he talks about the music that poses as authentic and critique as allowing for a passive subscribing to anticapitalist sentiment without actually acting on it, as the capitalist system itself subsuming critique as part of it, or whatever. I'm like a third of the way through, just started reading prompted by this thread...
>>24743159You don't feel sad for your kids because they are given music that is empty and has no meaning by society, that is all performative.They will experience no authentic culture, or resistance, they will rot in-front of their videogames. Their only connection to music, sending Instagram reels to their friends, they experience no culture, no connection, no meaningful ideology.
>>2474319020th century consumer culture was never meaningful. Then and now the real is there, but it’s not on the screen, it wasn’t on the radio, it’s not in the ideology. Perhaps it is in some nice sex or tasty burger.
>>24743261IT'S ALL THE SAME!Wrong, there was art that meant something, there were movements and connections that meant something, people believed in something.The 80s might have been consumerist garbage for the most part. But it would have been a 100x better for your kid to grow up there than to rot Infront of his videogames today. And even if it was all performative back then too, there was at least the shadow of something real. Globalization, and late-stage capitalism hadn't set in fully yet.We should have worked to preserve and amplify those parts of our culture, but we failed, the future is cancelled.
>>24743261and btw, the most "pop", "entertainment" nigger music/culture from the 80s has infinitely more soul and authenticity that the most artful, indie culture made by the "talented" "intelligentsia" of today.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYE5QEBOMA8
>>24743292Shut the fuck up you cunt. The 80s is full of retards like John Coltrane
>>24743312John Coltrane died in the 60s
>>24742962retards in ancient Athens were probably saying the same thing about deviations from Homer you don't get to decide what is authentic
>>24743159>>24743190this is by far the thing i find most insufferable about mark fishers writing and a lot of pomo stuff in general. people will always be making meaningful art that is soulful, transgressive, and pushes history forward whether you notice it or not. its such a ridiculous thing to say something like "oh history is canceled because muh hauntology isn't popular anymore." fuck off dude, just because you have rose tinted glasses towards the music of your youth does not mean that the kids of the now are not pushing boundaries as you did before them, and to discredit their efforts in such a broad way is a disservice to all artists making meaningful art.
>>24743190>You don't feel sad that a literal performance is performative?Oh no, that sucks
>>24742962Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qMQJF-7Y2h0
>>24742962From the thumbnail I always think this pic is Dave Foley and I go through a moment of confusion trying to figure out wtf OP is going on about.
>>24743048Cmon, take off the mask. Who are you really are?
>>24743342This. He should have gotten into gaming, maybe he would have seen advancement and auteurship somewhere instead of killing himself like a faggot.
>>24743365>t. skibidi toilet enjoyer