>He still hasn't read the Ulysses of our time
>>24744462every book reviewed by the latvian is "the Ulysses of our time". i lost track what was the last one.
>>24744520the latvian?
>>24744533the reason why this book was published was because a latvian blogger posted about it
>>24744540sounds like this "latvian blogger" is doing more for the state of contemporary literature than all the major and independent publishers, then
>>24744546indeed. modern publishing sucks for the most part.
It’s alright
>>24744559nice bait
>>24744566Max is a libtard pussy. The book is good but not as good as I’d expected. Granted I’m still in the first 20%
>>24744559I think I bought that same rug last week
>>24744520>i lost track what was the last oneJose trigo
>>24744462>>24744559Why translator's name is more prominent than the author?
>>24744621Sometimes the translator is the real draw. There are a half dozen books I never heard of that I bought on the strength of the translator.
>>24744673shut the hell up Max
>>24744621because he's a fucking narcissistic POS even though he uses secondary translators and chatgpt. fucking pseud.
>>24744462That cover is terrible. The synopsis looks interesting though.
>>24744546Hi Andrei. Still posting on a Serbian sweater-knitting forum?
>>24744621Celebrity translators are now a thing. Emily Wilson is an example of that. More famous for being a woman translating Homer than for the quality of her work.
>>24744699infamous for the lack of quality in her work
>>24744699No, it’s about her work. Caroline Alexander was the first woman to do a translation of Homer, albeit she did the Iliad, but it didn’t attract much attention because it is a very conservative translation
>>24744686His obvious shilling on here is so cringe.
>>24744679>>24744691>>24744857rent-free
>>24744930Fuck off, max
>>24744462What does that say
>>24744938CSHAmichaellentzTENarequiemTRFOtranslatedbymaxlawtonH
>>24744462Buy an ad, faggot.
>>24744834Her work sucks.
>>24744834Caroline Alexander wasn't a raging tattooed feminist with family media connections so she wasn't as loud and obnoxious as Wilson.
>>24744673Mr. Lawton, is that you? I have no idea who you are aside from lit memes. Shamelessly promote your work, no envy on my part, this is the home of the ELITE FUCKING READER. I'm not sure if there is a way to cap elite reading. You keep translating you magnificent bastard! No meme can hurt the image of someone like you! You tell the litizens what's niche and obscure, the elite part works itself out after that.
>>24744977>You tell the litizens what's niche and obscureHe just copies the taste of the latvian's blogs. He has no personality of his own.
You're a fascist because the American taxpayer should have paid to print Schattenfroh
>>24744989He wants you to donate while he manages his trust fund
>>24744989He's right about Trump, but why doesn't he just ask his dad for money?
>>24744989>only now (September 2025) is Trump's government BEGINNING to slip into fascismLmao
>>24745007>He's right about Trumpywnbaw
>>24744987If what has been said is true then Latvian blogs are also pockets of elite reading. This is not to be tolerated, you hear me Lawton? Those Latvians can show up here and shit eclecticism. Duhcartes has spoken somewhere in this exchange, I don't have a personality either. Latvian bloggers were just upgraded to ELITE FUCKING READERS.
>>24744989>fascism is when the government doesn't give me money If Deep Vellum and other publishers wanted to make public statements distancing themselves from everything woke and gay, they'd have a chance of getting their money back
>>24745147Literature is woke.
>>24744462>>24744559>>24744673>>24744930>>24744621The Shilling Of Schittenshill By The Faggot Max Lawton
>>24745019>obsessed
>>24744989>taxpayers should fund a pseud waxing pretentious about a book written by a foreign authorLol, no.
>>24745158So you're admitting the political left has a comfortable relationship with corporate publishers and justifying cultural hegemony based on this relationship? Cool, but that means you're a complete retard if you can't see the inherent cognitive dissonance of believing you're intellectual rebels speaking on behalf of the common man. Once you give up in that LARP you'll be less hated.
>>24745214Why are you seething? I said literature, not publishing. No one hates me other than MAGAtards which is just a badge of honor in 2025.
>>24744989>trump's a fascist!!!!I mean I guess, sure, but he's more a retarded wannabe 3rd world dictator>trump cut funding for my press!!!Surprised to see people defending Trump for this on the /lit/ board, but I guess Trumptards will defend anything Trump does. We all know nobody reads. We all know that even fewer people read contemporary literature in translation. These presses can't operate at the same level without government assistance of some kind, so they've got to put out fewer releases, hire fewer staff, do less marketing, and increase the price of what they do have to make up for it -- means all of us get less books to read. I will now predict and respond to the most likely Trumptard replies>but America can't afford to do that soYeah it can lol>but Max Lawton's a faggot soOkay>why should my tax dollars be used for translated literaWe're both on the /lit/ board, let's not act like we don't care about literature to own da libs n sheit >oh yeah? oh yeah? well you're a TRANNY/JOO/BROWNOIDLmao
>>24744989kek
>>24745244
>>24745246
>>24745246What is this
>>24745357Max's favorite books ONE book written prior to the 20th century, and it's just a strange coincidence that many of the books there are those he's translatedIt shows that lawton doesn't have any opinions of his own and expresses what he thinks is "based" for the shitty modernist/postmodern literary fiction crowd. deep down he's just a rich banker's son LARPing as a bohemian joyce type
>>24745766Why the fuck is this thread about this irrelevant douche? Has no one read the actual book?
>>24745231Im not even necessarily against subsidising the arts, but im glad I am no longer paying for this. You are correct that America can afford it, and perhaps in a more general sense we ought to. But if you actually look at what these publishers put out no one on /lit/ reads any of this slop. Its the stuff you see at Barnes and Noble that is made for millennial HR dept women.Give the money to Passage Press
>>24745948Yes, better give your money to foreign countries who actually subsidising their arts in part. Nation of cucks.
>>24745950>has argument refuted>OH YEAH? WELL WHAT ABOUT SOMETHING ENTIRELY UNRELATED HUH? YOU KEKlol, cope
how is he so based
>>24746806lebron james type shit fr fr
>>24746806That's so fucking performative and pseud. I read a book and listen to an audio book during my cardio.
>SCAHTENTFRHO????
>>24745957What argument? You just said to give the money to your preferred chud press instead of the press actually publishing literature.
People sure hate discussing literature here, huh?
>>24746867Translation is a higher form of art than literature. Man writes. God translates.
>>24746867Not one person on this board has finished the book. Not a single one.
>>24746908I wouldn't be surprised—it just came out and is, what, 1001 pages long? Mine is en route, should arrive in a couple. Damn European retailers having to specially order them to send out.
https://www.futuristletters.com/p/the-assassination-of-literature-by
>>24747011Yes, the one schizo posting 80% of all the comments in every thread concerning anything even tangentially related to Lawton. Very good.
>>24746908Should they have? It's 1000 pages, supposedly difficult, and came out like last week. Showing your ass here a bit, I say that as someone with no intention of reading it who agrees this board is made up of pseuds who don't read.
>>24747011Great article. Saved me from reading this fraudulent translation.
>>24745158Real literature isn't
>>24747074Excuses
The schizo who wrote the article and writes 80% of the comments like a mad puppeteer also fucked with max a lot in the real world and is pretty lucky he did not get himself or others in trouble (aloha, LIMF). Lit.salon users know what is up. The Max threads are so dumb now. Just two schizos going crazy and circle jerking and nobody else gives a fuck
>>24745948(I'm not >>24745950 btw. Although he's right, you didn't make an argument, you just stomped your foot and whined that they're not funding the press you like.)>they put out gay books so it's fine they don't have fundingWho cares if they put out books by fags? I don't really give a shit if the guy who wrote the book's a faggot, I care if the book's good or not. Mishima was a faggot and Mishima's great.>give the money to this press insteadDo you think that Trumptards know there's different kinds of literary presses that publish different kinds of literary fiction? We're talking about people who can barely read at a 6th grade level here, they're not going to draw a distinction they're just going to cut funding for everyone lmao>your comment is basically 'okay yes fine it's bad but it's bad against someone I don't like so it's not that bad, and maybe it's actually good'I don't have to explain to you why this is retarded
What's he shatten forh?>inb4 read the book and find out
>>24747210Hi Max.
>>24747391People who are not max can find schizo online behavior cringe too
>>24747446Nah, no one but Max is stupid enough to think bloggers are going to get in real world trouble for making fun of his shitty, ChatGPT translations. That's just you, Max
>>24747210DCW is a pussy and a faggot. Hey, I know you’re reading it. Stop jerking off to Sun Kil Moon and haul your Armenian ass to the main server. I will beat you intellectually any time. You’re a pygmy to me.
>>24747467Schizo beyond words
>>24747516Lol, I'm not the blogger and I've never commented on you before this thread. If not only Max can comment on schizos, well not only schizos recognize how pathetic you are, Max. Nice try though. Better luck next time with your intimidation game.
>>24747516this is what squirrel told limf he could get deported for and why they nuked the litsalon chat history
>>24747516oh my god, columbia is going to investigate you guys now
>>24747559this is also what dulla tried to blackmail limf into doxing dcw with
>>24747563Who are these people? What are these acronyms?t. newfag
>>24747586the litsalon people who tried to character assassinate max because of the main schizo in there who is totally obsessed with him
Who is limf? Who is dcw? Who is squirrel? What faggotry is that? Why should we care?
>>24747598Did they make any accusations other than there's no way he translates in 17 languages or whatever he currently claims? Or that he's a rich kid? Because they're not wrong about either.
>>24747605well I guess it is illegal in America to write those claims without grounding and then distribute them to a person’s place of work like that. Especially if you can connect it to 4chan threads where Max is called slurs. Even if you agree with the claims like I do with some of them, this is a dangerous game
>>24747598>litsalonAmazing how every /lit/ offshoot turns into a backstabbing schizo hive. And these are the people who think they're smart for having read Demons.
>>24747613Illegal? Why? It's psycho, but why would it be illegal? The bar for libel is incredibly high in America because we have those pesky free speech laws.
>>24747622I think if you could prove some of the claims were untrue and had malicious intent plus were distributed to a person’s place of work, this is easily defamation and harassment. Especially when combined with the slurs and the discussion of him maybe being a Jew. But I am neither American nor a lawyer
>>24747630Also consider the new anti-semitism stuff because of Israel. Even though Max is not Jewish
>>24747601LIMF is a Korean web designer. Squirrel is an Israeli brewery worker. DCW is a 50-year old Armenian sponger living off his rich wife. Not very interesting people.
>>24747651They should have been smarter than to email Columbia professors encouraged by threads where max is called “kike” and whatever else right after Columbia had to pay lots of money for not protecting students against anti-semitism. Especially when you can see them participating on the 4chan threads filled with so-called “hate speech,” which I do not believe in
>>24747150Agreed. That “Middle English” excerpt was enough to show this guy is a fraud.
>>24747651North or South Korean?
>>24747877North Korean. He used to repair laptops for Kim Jong Un and then defected to the US.
>>24747651>web designer>brewery worker>spongeurSo what is their expertise in translations?
>>24744699>Celebrity translators>paperback
bruh
>>24748430Max’s uncle runs a michigan community bank meaning he makes *checks notes* 400-500k per year. Some federal employees clean up better than this guy. Get a fucking life litsalon schizos. This shit is beyond embarrassing
The translator was a guest on a youtube channel I watch sometimes and he was just insufferable and deeply, deeply butthurt by 4chan for some reason so I'm not particularly interested in reading this
>>24747651Dcw is a liar and a pathetic loser whose greatest contribution to society is cringe comments and sock puppetry. He told me he had 3 kids. Can you imagine a father of 3 kids being chronically online posting links to shitty music on youtube and being a drama queen on a secret server no one gives two fucks about?
>>24748646>youtube channelwhich one
>>24748690The one with the fat guy and the brain tumor guyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAgvcGxO7rw
>>24748713i watched half of that video when i was hype for schatt. I have no real opinion of Max but he seemed so disinterested in that interview, like he was begrudgingly doing it.
>>24747011Reasonable and well structured critique until >Curiously, for a man who stands so steadfastly against Nazism, Lawton also has no reservations about promoting and translating the work of a known Nazi supporter and collaborator Louis-Ferdinand Celine, a virulent antisemite. As a matter of fact, he proudly displays a shelf dedicated to Celine’s books, of which one volume contains Celine’s compiled collection of racist and antisemitic tracts. Lawton, through his translation, is the entire reason a whole new wave of readers is going to encounter antisemitic and pro-Nazi rhetoric!What is it about this stuff that worms into people brains?
>>24748743They're not serious people.
>>24748743They're just puppets on strings
>>24744989your taxes won't be any less retard they'll just be redirected to polishing trump's golden nutsack implants; total pseudery to be championing a defunding of any independent publishers on a fucking literature board.
Soooo... any discussion on the book? No? Ah. A private Discord group of teenagers. How interesting—tell me more!
>>24748848You go read it and start a discussion then. I read a ton but I'm not reading this book ever and I'm solely in this thread for the drama.
Wow
>>24749217Shut up Max
>>24748743He's right. Even a /pol/tard can understand the sheer pseudery required to be both outspokenly left-wing and have a shrine for a Nazi author. Not to mention translate him. It shows that Max is more than willing to compromise his principles for lit cred.
>>24749455When dulla finally doxes dcw he will have hell to pay for all the antisemitic discord things he has written. dulla has screenshots of everything
>>24749455Max is a libtard pussy but this Chud is right.
>>24749455celine wasn't a nazi author
>>24744462>SCHATTENFROH
I haven't even read Ulysses
I am German and not interested in this garbage, translated or not.
>>24750510Is this German for Joyful Shit?
>>24750623
>>24744989>the government’s job is to pay for my adult day care projects while I live as a trust fund nepo baby because failing st my chosen job simply means nothingIs there like a Jewish term for the career where they manage to get the government to give them free money for their every whim?
>>24750697Sinecure
