>>24744780buddy
You’ve read scholastic, you’ve read them all
>>24745517Not necessarily >>24744780Is this supposed to be some kind of own? Aquinas was also influenced by Muslim scholars too. Big whoop.
yes, he points out where Maimonides (and Avicenna, and Averroes, and Plotinus, etc etc) are all wrong and Aristotle is still right (with some elaboration).
>>24744780One of these days some normal-ass bishop is going to stare right at the camera and say that supersessionism is the unavoidably logical position of Christianity, and some Jew onscreen with him is going to lose their shit.
>>24745572I pray for that day
>>24745572Neither the Catholic or the Orthodox church has the balls to speak the truth about the jews
>>24745645Not yet. The younger priests will, when they're bishops and cardinals.
>>24745572>supersessionism is the unavoidably logical position of Christianity>I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew.>17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. >Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way[e] all Israel will be saved. >as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.Romans 11:1-2, 17-18, 25-26, 28-29
>>24744780>dad Maimonides More like lost cousin.
>>24745685Yes, and the Jews need to accept Christ as their Lord and Savior in order to be fully saved. Insofar as they avoid this, they are in error. Insofar as they try to prevent others from this acceptance--say, through their control of culture and entertainment--they are guilty of extremely grave sin.
>>24745730Many such as Shapiro believe the Church is all that can save America
>>24745787That's a utilitarian view of the Church, which is not the same as believing in Christ Crucified and Christ Risen.
>>24745685What does Galatians 3:29 say? Who are the children of Abraham?
>>24745730>25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way[e] all Israel will be saved. As it is written: “The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.>27 And this is[f] my covenant with them when I take away their sins.”[g]>28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable. 30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now[h] receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. 32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.Romans 11:25-32>>24745795> I am talking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I take pride in my ministry 14 in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own people to envy and save some of them. 15 For if their rejection brought reconciliation to the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? 16 If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, then the whole batch is holy; if the root is holy, so are the branches.>17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” 20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.Romans 11:13-21
>>24745845Who are the children of Abraham?
>>24745845None of this removed the sins from the Gentiles that they committed; before Gentiles knew Christ murderers were still murderers and so on. So, too, the Jews' covenant with God does not excuse the sins they commit against God and His Church. Indeed, how much more harshly will Jews who deliberately commit sins against the Church be judged, since they were God's favored people and the beginners of His covenant with humankind? It is like the betrayal of a close friend versus the trespass of a stranger.
>>24744780All American "Catholics" are at their core just Protestants.
>>24745924>the Pope is a Protestant It’s over
>>24745924You can be a good Catholic or you can be a good American, but you can't be both. To be truly faithul to the teachings of the Church, I believe as an American Catholic one must reject the United States, on some fundamental level.
>>24745932>>24745924>>24745930
>>24745849Isaac, Ishmael, Zimran, Jokshan, Midian, Medan, Ishbak, and Shuah.>>>24745864>30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now[h] receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. 32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.Romans 11:30-32
>>24745959>Isaac, Ishmael, Zimran, Jokshan, Midian, Medan, Ishbak, and Shuah.genesis 12 and 22>I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”> I will surely bless you, and I will surely multiply your offspring as the stars of heaven and as the sand that is on the seashore. And your offspring shall possess the gate of his enemies, and in your offspring shall all the nations of the earth be blessed, because you have obeyed my voice.”
>>24745930you jest but sometimes I think so much
>>24745959Was Paul wrong in Galatians?
>>24744780>two unbelievers, neither of which understand a single page of the Bible, will tell us how to save the west>mfw>>24745655Sure, you keep waiting. Meanwhile many independent fundamental baptists have been preaching the true gospel and the whole council of God this whole time.>>24745787Who cares what some Christ-denying FOOL has to say? You Cathodox listen to literal Christ-blaspheming Jews who follow the Talmud more than people who actually believe the Bible. I already know the anti-intellectual, thought-terminating Cathodox replies they're typing up. It's all so tiresome.>>24745685>muh romans 11>24745845>BUT MUH ROMANS 11Out of context of the book itself which tells you how to be saved and tried to warn you. Jesus also expresses this sentiment multiple times, probably most famously in John 8.>Romans 9:6b ... For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:And not only is the old covenant gone and nobody is following it, it's not even available.>Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.Jews don't believe a single page of the Old Testament otherwise they'd just believe on the Lord, get saved, and be a Christian.>John 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.>>24745932Thanks for confirming Catholics are traitors. But I already knew that when a Catholic-dominated Supreme Court forced faggotry on a Christian Nation. p.s. Catholicism/Orothodoxy is not, was never, and will never be true Christianity.
>>24746001>Catholicism/Orothodoxy is not, was never, and will never be true Christianity.Neither is Protestantism because protestants are responsible for the 14th and 15th amendments.
>>24745959And if God Himself lays the Jews low again, as He has done many times in their history, will you consider that unjust? If, say, He presides over the destruction of the State of Israel in our lifetimes, what will that be, but punishment for their sins and their unfaithfulness, as we have seen, over and over, in their history?
>>24746034What if God destroys the white race? What do you think that would mean
>>24746034>punishment for their sins and their unfaithfulness, as we have seen, over and over, in their history?Seems like God favors the jews over the muslims, they keep losing every war against Israel. Allah doesn't want islamic sovereignty over the dome of the rock
>>24746069Muslims have never really taken a single L as big as the Holocaust, it's been more a long, slow decline since Lepanto.
>>24744780Abrahamedans should be deported.
>>24745572The church is just trying to be polite but I don't think the jews really realize how much bad press they're getting these days. My normie friends send me anti-semitic memes now.
>>24746058Absolutely fine. Just another casuality like the Edomites
>>24746114Even younger Evangelicals are becoming more ambivalent towards Israel.
>>24746124I think they're trying to pivot to the third world for support. I think once the boomers are gone they're going to have a very hard time keeping up the con they've had for the past 75 years. Supersessionism is not going anywhere, and the strange American heresies eventually are going to branch off or be forgotten to history.
>>24746129My argument as a Christian is that if they screw themselves over with their own behavior we are not obligated to come to their aid. Clearly it would be a case of God punishing them, and who are we to interfere with the Lord's will?
>>24746150I agree. Their own behavior got them into this mess.
>>24746150Would you pray for their conversion?
>>24746237I literally did that this very night in my Rosary.I pray that they all get converted. But as Moses once said, "This is a stiff-necked people," and right now they have too much power and too much control. They have no incentive to listen to the Gospel right now, why would they? Their present status in the world grants them too much worldly power and wealth. They're like the worst of the old cardinals during the Renaissance, on an even more exploded scale.I can't imagine them significantly listening to Jesus' words without their present status in the world ending. From their point of view, they have everything, what should they change?
Everyone blames Jews for subverting western society but no one thinks to look at Catholics. Look who is funding the aid groups housing and importing migrants and refugees. Look who props up left wing politicians, look who pushes progressive ideologies.
>>24746269The largest refugee groups in the US are Evangelical. If the largest ones in Italy or France are Catholic, that should hardly be surprising. Christians actually care about those fleeing war, Leftists only support them in the abstract.
>>24745572Bishop Barron did say to Shapiro:“Jesus is the yes to all the promises made to Israel. Jesus is the climax to the story of Israel.”Everyone who is saved is “saved through the grace of Christ . . . the grace is coming from Christ."In the genesis series by Jordan Peterson which was quite zionistic due to some jews being there putting forth their interpretations, the bishop also said Christians are the People of God.
>>24746399His book is pretty good for a short overview.
>>24746399This.
>>24746269>subverting western society but no one thinks to look at Catholics.But Protestants are the ones who created the 14th and 15th amendments