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>another author ruining their legacy but putting a tranny in their novel
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I THINK. WHATS HIS NAME. OVID. DID IT FIRST.
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>>24745173
Joyce already did that in Ulysses. Also, I'm not done yet with GR, but didn't he put fucking scat in the book? That's arguably worse than tranny shit.
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>>24745173
>obsessed
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Trannies are not all that uncommon in Pynchon's works.
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Pynchon's bread and butter is holding a mirror to society... why wouldn't his work include trans?
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>10,000 characters
>OP fixates on the one tranny
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>weird sex in a Pynchon novel

Oh no, who could have expected this
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>>24745173
>uncultured maga tard still thinks transpeople are a recent phenomenon
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>>24745284
Lol.. oh, is that what he does?
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>>24745173
Everything past Mason & Dickass is a torturous documentation of the slide into senility. I would only time traveler spare DFW for him to use the twat as a sounding board for boomer literary infantilism.
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>>24745428
yardy
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>>24745191
yes, i'm obssessed with the betterment of humanity by clearing out the undesirables, as all aristocratic souls should be
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>>24745173
This book is out?
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>>24746317
the german version is, for some reason
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>>24746319
What's the reason?
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>>24746323
Germans won't spoil it for the rest of the world, country of stemfags (plotfags).
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>>24746327
That is the second time /lit/ has stripped my spoilers, do we still have them? test.
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>>24746323
i dunno, ask them
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>>24745173
Man I gotta read Crying of Lot 49, but some fag took my local library's copy...
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>>24746352
If you want to raw dog it then Against the Day is the Pynchon for you, Lot 49 is methadone.
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>>24745284
mixed metaphors, anon. big no-no. more careful next time.
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>>24745315
They are when you stop letting online lunatics conflate every example of someone wanting to be the opposite sex with the modern "transgender" framework.
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>>24746356
Two questions:
>If it is not the world, it is what the world might be with a minor adjustment or two.
Is the dustjacket implying the novel degenerates into some kind of magical realism?
And secondly, does it explain the microhistoric events it references? Or is it like "since you HAVE TO know what happened in april 1988 in the costruction site 223 kilometers to the north of Kolyma, I don't think I need to tell you it and instead describe what happened next"
I'm ok with reading a brick, I haven't read one in a long time, but if you have weird shit happening with random microhistory as the premise of anything, then the author is just too lazy to contexualize.
If it is a short thing like Lot 49, then I wouldn't have to ask. I'd see for myself.
Honestly, I never read a Pynchon in my life, starting blind with his longest novel would be kinda dumb.
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>>24746441
There is nothing lazy about Against the Day and Pynchon never relies on those references that autists autist about. "If it is not the world, it is what the world might be with a minor adjustment or two." is not as cryptic as it seems and that quote is a hilarious way to say something so banal.
>magical realism
I feel like the last brick you read is 1Q84 and I can't stop thinking of AtD in terms of 1Q84, which is a really weird way works; you can sort of reduce AtD to 1Q84 and that quote almost does it but if it were slapped on the dust jacket of 1Q84 it would be a brazen insult. This almost makes me want to reread 1Q84 but I really don't see myself subjecting myself to myself?
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>>24746181
you can start by killing yourself, then
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>>24745315
>everyone who disagrees with the metaphysical assertion that men can become women and vice versa is A: An American and B: A supporter of Donald Trump and his government.
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>>24746356
>is methadone
Makes me have a warm glow for an hour and then makes my eyese be unable to focus on reading and become so tired that I fall asleep at 20:30 and wake up at 10:00?
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>>24746459
>1Q84
I dnf'd it after 20 pages a decade ago because it remotely reminded me of the Dreamcatcher by Stephen King, which was the book I finished right before starting 1Q84 and it was a hot pile of garbage.
>Pynchon never relies on those references that autists autist about.
I'm sold. Fuck it let's do this.
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>>24746478
is a poor substitute for what your really want.
>>24746482
I have to admit, I assumed America. It might seem very dependent on history for an Italian but I suspect you will just miss some of the nuances; unless the translator put in serious time and reworked the pastiches and much of the book to things Italian, which would be really weird but also amazing. He pastiches all the old American pulp styles and uses them towards theme, he is very blunt about them in the first part and just picking up on the different styles will be enough which is not difficult, but some of its greatness will be lost. Italy and Venice are not a small part of it.

I think it would translate well other than the pastiches, I suspect the only viable solution would be to pastiche the translations of the genres he pastiches, and I can't even imagine the literary implications of; translation is pretty much pastiche taken to the extreme after all. This all has some amazing implications for theme, which I think your quote demonstrates nicely. The bulk of the pastiches are done generically enough to not matter, getting the genre will be enough to keep everything making sense.

If you want to talk about it while you read it, start a thread with picrel, I will keep an eye out. I don't post he much but a scroll through the catalog and a groan has been a part of my life for so long that I will most likely see it, would be curious to hear an Italian's take on this and get some ideas about how the translation was handled. And it is one of my favorites, so always looking to discuss it.
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>>24746541
I actually prefer the stability of my Methadone, and don't have to worry about the postman not arriving, or dealers not answering. I have access to the medication I need, I couldn't do that with Heroin. I am aware you are employing it as a metaphorical device but just took the excuse to alter the non-addicts perception of Methadone and what addicts think of it. I like Methadone, and won't ever go back, not slipped up once in the year I've been on it.
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>>24746544
If you were actually an addict I would have expected you to have gotten the metaphor; raw dogging it being cold turkey withdrawal, methadone being something generally given as a treatment and just enough to live in the purgatory between cold turkey withdrawal and actually getting high.
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>>24746541
>I assumed America
Well, thank you. I mostly read in english, that's probably why.
>reworked the pastiches and much of the book to things Italian
Up until the 2000s we used to have a lot of the pulp fiction from the anglosphere getting translated into italian, with each subgenre having its own italian equivalent. Italians always do a great job at translating, anyway. Our version of No Country for Old Men is just as broken as the English one.
I wonder if there will be something taken from the stuff for children: our versions were sometimes translating the surnames of the characters too. Maybe they'll do something similar with AtD.
>If you want to talk about it while you read it, start a thread with picrel, I will keep an eye out
Probably once I finish the first part.
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>>24745173
People who promote trannyism are literally mentally ill, so I doubt anything they've written before is any good.

>>24745191
>>24745315
Stop committing terrorism, leftoid.

p.s. "shemales" and "ladyboys" are the crossdressing fags who aren't totally mentally ill and aren't terrorists, "trannies" and ANTIFA are mentally ill terrorists who belong in GITMO
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>>24745173
Kimmel won



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