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Literature is dead.
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>>24750370
Shadow Ticket is going to be amazing.
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>>24750370
the Gates are forever closed to these halfwits
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>>24750370
I get the other thread now. This is pathetic. Beyond parody, but it's been beyond parody since 2016.
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>>24750370
To anyone who has read Against The Day (except /tv/ niggers who have only read IV) it's clear Pynchon has given up on writing.
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These people don't know what a good book is. Not even they believe themselves capable of picking Moby Dick out of a pile.

When the rvelation comes they'll shoot it for a spy.
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If Pynchon wrote about le drumpf he probably just spit out a dozen pages of Florida golf course history invent a character named Tee Putter that has some unique swing involving alligators. I'm sure you can read Gravity's Rainbow as a #libresist book if you are bad at reading.
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>>24750370
women don't get away with this kind of stupid crap in islam. just something to ponder.
https://www.brighteon.com/e58ef418-f0a2-4d87-8078-cbbfc6ac2313
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>>24750370
>people are upset because Pynchon isn't validating their political views and is instead crafting a book full of japes, jokes and chicanery set in the 1930s of Hungary
Now I may be just a simple country lawyer, but could it be that the ol' Pynchmeister is using Hungary in the 1930s as a mirror to hold up against our current age? Just sayin'
>>24750383
Against the Day is one of the most fun books I've ever read and I even jerked off to it
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>>24750370
wtf
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"Why isn't the acclaimed recluse, the writer of genius, the man whose mind resides anywhere but in the banality of the immediate present, WRESTLING with the PRESSING ISSUES of today's NEWS HEADLINES?", asks Kathryn Schulz, joyless wokescold hag -- and she speaks for all of us.
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Maybe it's just not very good?
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>>24750370
Bait. This is literally two sentences earlier in the article:
>Literature has no obligation to be responsive to the times; indeed, at its best it often isn’t, which is why “timeless” is such lofty, if hackneyed, praise.
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>>24750370
If he doesn't want to write a book about the current political reality that's fine, but there would also be nothing wrong with it if he did; commenting on current political realities is a perfectly good use of art. So both of the people in this screenshot come off as stupid.
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>>24750370
That's actually a pretty good quote. Someday I hope to write to The New Yorker standards.
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>>24750370
What is TDS
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>>24752209
I think its meant to be "Trump Derangement Syndrome".
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>>24750370
I feel like the problem with the liberals is that they want to dam the river of progress rather than control its flow to dry banks. They act like Trump doesn’t want to make America great again but he literally gets up every day wanting too. We have a DOGE wanting to cut waste but they cry about the cuts, got a health official who wants to make our food healthier and they only care about his conspiracy theories, or they could make some productive recommendations? Ok sorry for the rant bye
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>>24750370
>book should tell me what I want to hear
Powerful
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>>24751089
islam is right about women, time to take the bacha bhazi pill
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>>24752238
>They act like Trump doesn’t want to make America great again but he literally gets up every day wanting too.
Imagine actually believing this. The very definition of a useful idiot.
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>>24752264
That’s your president you’re talking about there friend
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>>24750370
Literature is dead
Time to read

Bury what you can
Become a student man
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>>24752264
You’ll never believe it because America being great to you is some disgusting tranny freak show fantasy that no one but you and your discord full of groomers wants
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>>24752264
Trump stays in bed some days? I don't know, even Í get up most days, at least, sometimes late, sure, and they med me, sure, and I wank and want to stay in, sure, okay, not áll days, because there were days, yes, when I was hungover or rubbing the stick and just stayed in, and the nightmares that I had then surely made sure that I just got up. I can't think of a President who doesn't get up, okay, maybe not strictly autistically 100.000000000000000% of the time, that'd be hard, sleep deprivation'd get to ya, but at least 99.999999999999999% of the time he could, because how else would one become President otherwise? I can't think of a sleepyhead President, for me, but I'm not well versed in President Histories Around The World.
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>>24752160
The point the person in the tweet is making is that they not only demand political commentary they would lose their mind if the commentary were not to their liking.

The entire problem with the type of person who thinks commentary is not only good but necessary for something to be considered proper litfic is that they have extremely narrow worldviews that also need to be reinforced otherwise the thing theyre reading becomes “dangerous” and “propaganda”.
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>>24752290
You write like a faggot
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>>24752352
And his shits all retarded
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Why do libs have this expectation that the literature they read will be just reflecting towards them what they already think and know? Everyone prefers literature with an ideology they personally find agreeable to literature with an ideology that they find disagreeable, but this attitude seems to be far less common among chuds, they don't expect to be exclusively catered to ideologically like libs do.
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>>24750370
I haven't read the book yet, but I can already tell this woman is massively stupid, and it pains to say it because women are badasses and those calling them stupid are usually the incel type, but what is subtext? How can anyone believe Pynchon would release a book in the current political climate that doesn't say anything about the state of the world? Maybe, just maybe, you're supposed to read in between the lines? Pynchon is a brilliant man. The kind who appears every ten generations and single-handedly changes the course of literature. So he knows better not to write a stand in for Trump in his work, because he knows story isn't made by the so called "great men", but they are just a symptoms of the times. Writing explicitly about Trump would be granting too much recognition to that dumb senile populist. Don't get me wrong. I think Trump is destroying this country, but he isn't fucking Darth Vader or Voldemort as the liberals want you to believe. He's just a snake oil salesman profiting from late stage capitalism. So maybe Pynchon with this book isn't taking a hit at what appears to be the problem, but the actual problem, in a symbolic fashion, of course?
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>>24752278
America is a shithole and Trump is willingly turning it into a bigger shithole so he can make more money. At least you owned the libs tho
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>Someone says something I don't like
Yeah gotta agree with the twitter pseud here, literature is dead
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>>24752256
>islam is right about women
at this point i believe that people who say this online are muslims themselves trying to subtly spread islam by positing its benefits; christianity is also right about women and the way christians treated women for almost all of its existence up until the 20th century is a testament to that, and before you say that christianity unshackled women via feminism, i urge you to read about the private lobby groups that actually pushed for feminism in the first place
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>>24750370
I'm sure this Kathryn Schulz bitch is a midwit as best, and it's highly likely the book does comment on the current state of America, but let's give her the benefit of the doubt and say she's right and the book indeed has nothing to say about the Trump administration. Wouldn't that be disappointing? Why is everyone giving Thomas Pynchon a pass her just for being Pynchon?

The duty of a writer isn't just to entertain or to arise emotions, but to say something relevant about society and so far Thomas has always done his job. So yeah, it would be disappointing if he doesn't have anything to say about Trump in his last book.

I really don't think that's so much to ask. It's not even TDS. It's just looking out of the window and see where this country is heading. Why so many people are acting like criticizing Trump would be out of character for Thomas? He has made his lunch money dunking on these powerful dorks. You would be hard pressed to find a Pynchon super fan who voted for Trump.
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>>24752366
idk, half this board is chuds complaining about modern books being too woke to be worth reading
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>>24752366
Bait. Bad bait. Chuds are so goddamn fragile they piss and shit their pants if a novel has a black person or a woman in it.
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>>24752209
Something Trumpanzees scream whenever someone dares criticize their demented cult leader
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>why didnt he make his own version of handmaid's tale?
pynched
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>>24750370
Pynchon is a McTaggart girlie.
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>>24750370
>yfw Pynchon assumed Biden/Kamala was going to win when he started writing the novel and it's full of digs at the dems
NOOOOO!!! SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!
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>>24752209
Blumph cultists deranged rage and projection when anyone dares to point out that their "God Emperor" is a retard and total moral degenerate.
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>>24753181
How is he wrong. Dems had four years to ruin him if there was an ounce of anything in there and nothing. Dumbass.
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>>24750370
I'm honestly relieved he didn't write about Trump. I know it's a horrific thought, but I feel there's a non zero chance that Pynchon thinks, in a way, that Trump is preferable to the likes of Nixon, Reagan or Bushes. I could see Pynchon thinking at least Trump wears in his sleeves being a gangster and is too much of a moron to do as much damage as the others. But if he thinks that then I'm thankful that I will never know. Because fuck Trump.
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>>24753183
what did they catch obama in cold?
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>>24753212
He literally had a cold, the flu.
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>>24751089
>trade in rights of women
>but turn the west brown
No-win situation
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>>24753181
>>24752692
This is an example of TDS
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>>24751089
The problem with Islam is that everyone is equally a slave, men are caged to the standards too. It’s dogshit and you should feel bad for gravitating toward it at all. In the west everyone has freedom and you have to just deal with it but with Islam everyone is a slave. You’re a cucked faggot and no amount of chest puffing can change the reality that you outsourced your mental processes and autonomy to a book written by an Arab a couple thousand years ago. Fuck I hate religion tards SO MUCH. It would be fine if you shut up and stayed to yourself but you don’t so I have to bring the whip out and urge you to stay in your cage.
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>literature is dead
mission accomplished, feminists.
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>>24750376
It's going to be "amazing" if you're over 80 years old.

>>24750383
Pretty much this.

>>24751102
He's not.

>>24752366
>Oh no how dare contemporary books reflect contemporary issues, we need to write about the 1930s now for some reason
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>Literature is dead
Sex & the City's Sarah Jessica Parker is on the committee that will decide this year's winner of the Booker Prize.
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>>24752366
Kek, @ the faggots proving your point by being mad your post didn't cater to him.
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>>24750370
I have not read any Pynchon. Is it worth it?
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>>24754140
He's a pomo, so probably not
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>>24752628
You write like a midwit.
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>>24753183
He’s literally a convicted sex offender hiding behind executive powers.
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>>24752256
I was under the impression that bacha bazi was very much a local folk custom retained despite adoption of Islam, not because of it.
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>>24752319
If we were talking about any other politician that would be one thing, but Trump is fundamentally not a serious man. He makes no real attempt to appeal to thinking people.
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>>24752621
Feminism is a product of the Industrial Revolution and the Pill. Technological change precedes social change. Human beings perform the scripts their incentives wrote for them and if they don't they will be outcompeted and replaced.
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>>24754373
GDP goes up
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>>24753583
>In the west everyone has freedom
“People don’t want freedom, they want love and security”
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>>24754824
In islamic countries they have neither, only violence and death and starvation.
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>>24750370
>then what has he come here, after a long silence and in all likelihood for the last time, to tell us?
Why does this cunt insist that author's HAVE to be responsive to current events? I read to escape the realities of this shitty world, not to be constantly reminded of them. Sure, Pynchon writes about topics that are rooted in reality, but his prose, as she later describes in this article, is something akin to a literary vision of Bosch, "crammed full of figures both realistic and fantastical, many of them engaged in morally compromising behavior, all of them presumably serving some overarching but endlessly debatable organizing principle." This is what interests me in Pynchon; his dense, encyclopedic knowledge and simultaneously real and fantastical characters and sub-plots.

It would be interesting for him to tackle current events, but what makes someone think he's prepared or knowledgeable enough to have already formed a grandiose observation of the last ten years for a novel? It took him 12 years to write and publish Bleeding Edge.



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