Do you read poetry?Who are your favourite poets and when did it first click for you?Which languages do you enjoy poetry in the most whether originally written in or translated into that language? When I think about how much poetry has been written or composed over the last 3000 years it makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong for not reading it and I want to fix that.Why isn't poetry as commonly appreciated today as it was in the past?
I like T.S. Eliot because he was an awkward sperg like me.>Why isn't poetry as commonly appreciated today as it was in the past?High barrier to entry. Most people don't have a sense of aesthetics, which is necessary to appreciate poetry.
>>24753996I found The Waste Land to be too difficult to appreciate but it did awake in me some kind of ambition to eventually work my way through it properly Does he have any easier poems to appreciate for beginners?
>>24753942It’s hispanic modernismo for me. Ruben Darío’s “Lo fatal” made me appreciate poetry.
>>24754035Read his poem The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock.
>>24753942I'm thinking of getting into Robert Browning. Is there any important context to his works worth noting or reading into?
>>24754035Try King Bolo
>>24753942>Why isn't poetry as commonly appreciated today as it was in the past?Because every teacher neglects to explain metre.
>>24753942>when did it first click for you?When I was 22 or so. It happened with Fitzgerald's Iliad, I used to hate poetry before that. >Which languages do you enjoy poetry in the mostEnglish. I also speak Polish but I don't really enjoy poetry written in it, maybe with a few exceptions like Leśmian.
>>24753942Esperanto poetry is chronically underappreciated. Bolton, Auld, Kalocsay, Baghy...
D.M. Black's long narrative poems from the 1970s. His collected poems are on annas archive / archive dot org.
There are a handful of poems I have liked, but in general, no. I don't read poetry and it has never clicked for me.
>>24754422Please do go on
>>24754470Slavish post.
>>24754194It's almost the oppositeNobody grows up reading poetry anymore, so most people's first experience with it is in school, where they immediately start learning about meter, rhyme schemes, and other technical details. It's like taking a music theory class before ever listening to music.
>>24753942>Do you read poetry?Yes.>Who are your favourite poetsSilvia Plath, Louis Glück, Richard Siken.I really loved al-Ma'arri, Roger Fanning, Alessandra Carnaroli, Joshua Bennett, Anne Sexton. Except for the last one, I've only read one or two volumes from each of them, so I can't say much about them.I'd add Ludovico Ariosto, but I have only read bits and pieces from him.>when did it first click for you?Those tumblr posts which evolved into instapoetry that I was reading when I was in highschool.>Which languages do you enjoy poetry in the most whether originally written in or translated into that language?Russian, when it comes to sound. Italian used to be great, but now it's very rare to find someone who risks to sound pompous. English is great for prose poetry.>Why isn't poetry as commonly appreciate today as it was in the past?False expectations.You need to understand its evolution to judge its quality. Rupi Kaur is amazing (at least her first collection), but you need to approach it in the right way.A lot of people want the next Shakespeare, not the next great poet.>>24754194Also this.
>>24754610Not my experience. The teacher just had us read poetry without explaining anything about it or why it's written the way it is. This necessarily results in students thinking poetry is needlessly overblown prose, and that's how they pronounce it.
>>24753996>sense of aesthetics, which is necessary to appreciate poetry.Think you're wrong about that. Poets are just people who think a certain way. Calliope, to whom all poems are directly addressed is no snob. True poems have been written by oyster-dredgers and gangsters and cricketers.
>>24754625Are you a woman?
>I want to fix that.Start with the most recent stuff and slowly read progressively old stuff.Speaking from personal experience, just get pinterest and try adding the movie quotes, and anything that resonate with you really. Or pick a book of aphorisms, I have no expertise there, so can't say much about it. Honestly, if you are not underage, depressed and going through a rejection/break up, the high levels of cringe you'll have to stomach on pinterest, then you are better off getting the aphorisms book. Nietzsche had one, but it's too paternalistic imho.Anyway, after a while you'll hopefully develop a desire for something better than just aphorisms, and hopefully try some free verse poetry, then find something about metric and rhymes and then you'll be able to understand the greatness of the classics.>>24754638No, I'm a man. Yeah, I get that a lot.I was just an emo kid.Fyi, all the tumblr pics that evolved into instapoetry inspired also the "literally me" edits.From one of pinterest boards, picrel.
>>24754635Anyone can have a sense of aesthetics, it has nothing to do with your education level or job.
>>24754712It also has nothing to do with being a poet. In fact that’s a fairly modern idea of a poet.
Is it worth it trying to learn to pronounce alexandrins correctly? I mean what do I gain from it?
>>24753942Try as I might I can't get into it but I think I'm slowly starting to get it. I'm slowly going through Ariel and I'm appreciating the imagery she creates but I still struggle to understand the structure and purpose of poetry itself. Pic related is one of my favorites though, along with Dorothy Parker's "Resume". Would appreciate recs
My plan is to study>Shakespeare>Milton>DonneI think I'll skip everything between them and the Romantics
>>24755420did you save that pic from this board?i’m the anon who posted it. responding to a suicidal anon iirc.
>>24755456>skipping the best cat in literature
QuevedoI love its antiescapism themes, cant really read anything posterior seriously, which is a shame because I used to like the romantics in my teens
>>24753942>Why isn't poetry as commonly appreciated today as it was in the past?Unironically, it's because the contemporary English that is the lingua franca of the world (and probably most of the common dialects in the other major languages) does not support poetry.It's like asking why no one plays a game that's only available on Linux.Prolefeed languages aren't built for noble metrical verse, the best we can do is rap about Wet Ass Pussy. And no, exceptions like Yeats and Pound, from hyperliterate eras and highbrow localities, do not disprove the rule.
>>24755561What are these sophisticated languages that poetry is currently thriving in?
>>24755456Add Chaucer in there and you're set. The period between Milton and the Romantics is often skipped by people first getting into poetry, with good reason, but it's still very much essential reading, so don't forget to read it at a later date. The same is true of the period between Chaucer and Shakespeare.
>>24755561Matthew Arnold once said ‘the power of French Literature is in its prose-writers, the power of English Literature in its poets.’
>>24755631nta, but how many of those poets are contemporary?
>>24755639Contemporary in this case would mean the time he wrote it (1875)
>>24753942I've been reading a lot of Richard Hugo recently.
> My French is pretty deep in me somewhere so the French language itself has probably had less of a direct effect than my reading of French poetry. In the introduction to the Oxford Book of French Verse, there's a story about André Gide at Oxford, sitting next to A.E. Housman and being very apprehensive because he knew his English was not quite good enough and he greatly admired Housman's poetry, and he wasn't at all sure whether Housman spoke French. Finally, Housman turned to him and said, in perfectly modulated French, Tell me, Monsieur Gide, why is it that there is no French poetry? That's one of those great stunning statements of all time. There's a sense in which—although I could easily write a whole book disagreeing with him—I rather do agree with Housman. Reading a good deal of French poetry at various periods in my life has made me aware of the kinds of poetry in English that French does not offer, of what they have to make do without, of the difference of the currents.
>>24753942>Do you read poetry?Yes! :)>Who are your favourite poets and when did it first click for you?John Keats and Ted Hughes. I first fell in love with poetry reading "To Autumn". I read it during a beautiful October and everything fell into place. It was simply a matter of right setting, right time.>Which languages do you enjoy poetry in the most whether originally written in or translated into that language?English. It's the only language I'm fluent in.>When I think about how much poetry has been written or composed over the last 3000 years it makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong for not reading it and I want to fix that.It's not for everyone, but there's a great body of work if you manage to get into it.>Why isn't poetry as commonly appreciated today as it was in the past?No idea. I think it might be because poetry requires the reader/listener to spend a lot of time reflecting on it. It takes very little time to read a poem, but lots of time to appreciate and understand it. In the attention economy we have nowadays, nobody has the willpower to reread the same lines over and over again. Best of luck, friend.
>>24753942I haven't read a lot of poetry, but Paradise Lost is probably my favorite thing I've ever read.
>>24753942I don't see any value in poetry but my guess is that this is something more for the INF types
>>24755469I did. Wish I could find a collection of Graves poems but I can only find his books, or poetry collections that don't include Suicide. I'm curious as to what year it was written as well
>>24754422Esperanto is not a language.
>>24755943If you think the value of poetry is restricted to certain Myers-Briggs types then you're not intelligent enough to understand poetry to begin with.
>>24753942who that? is that my nigga john donne talkin' bout promontories and shit
For the people saying women don't read poetry, I'm afraid I have to add another anecdotal evidence because I don't enjoy it at all. I'd rather read prose with the same level of complexity and intention.
>>24756830forgot you pic, hibari poster?
>>24756830When we say women we mean the ones without cocks
>>24755659based francophobic shithouse
>>24755998not actually sure when it was written. i read it in his collected poems 1965.
>>24755654rap-tier gibberish
I recently read this and now I want to get into poetryWhilst working at my min wage dishwasher job I try to recite the lines in my head during the rush because my mind isn't being used for much elseAs someone new to poetry I probably ought to get into poetry through English rather than a foreign language but I can't be bothered
