I find it really funny to think about how such an elitist philosopher had such easy-to-read and accessible writing in his works.
>>24754281not everything has to be overly complicated
>>24754281so much about him is contradictory. not in a bad way though. and actually I think this might be the case of all german thinkers.
>>24754281He did it to mock Hegel
>>24754291>of all german thinkers.Schopenhauer is one of its kind, he transcended all nationalities. Schopenhauer is the heritage of every beautiful man.
>>24754673despite being so ugly?he wasn't as afflicted by his nationality as (say) nietzsche, but he was still german.
>>24754681>despite being so ugly?My dear shallow npc, I am talking about goodness of heart and intellect.
>>24754684in that case don’t use the b word. I think even S would agree with me there.
>>24754687My dear npc, there is all kinds of beauty.
>>24754691it's common practice in philosophy to take the simple scientific precaution of finding the etymology and therefore the original meaning. beau doesn’t mean that. you might be thinking of sublime.
>>24754700You are on a literature board and yet you can't understand that there is beauty other than the body.
>>24754281He's a big cervantes guy is why
>>24754681>>24754684How is he ugly? He looks good. By the way, people constantly tell me I'm handsome
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>>24754716And a Baltasar Gracian guy
why would you not try to present difficult ideas in the clearest possible manner unless you were a midwit pseud?>The Feynman technique is based around the idea that one of the most effective techniques to enhance our understanding is to imagine that we’re teaching the material to someone who has absolutely no idea about the topic. Like a small child.>By doing this, we force ourselves to explain our thoughts fully and avoid glossing over topics we don’t understand well enough. Identify the topicTeach it to a childIdentify knowledge gapsSimplify, add analogiespseuds like Hegel or Jung start with a metaphor (that should be an analogy crowning a logical conclusion) and then complexify. It's all backwards.
>>24754715i’m on the literature board and talking to you about the use (and abuse) of language. beauty is ultimately dependent on the body. we have to be very careful how we use english.
>>24754722a quote from FN isn't much of a gotcha if i'm already directly 'attacking' him (not really an attack at all). nietzsche loathed himself for being a german, and yet the immoderacy and self-contradiction of his loathing was characteristically german. he took refuge in the lies that he was really a pole.
>>24754727and a classics Guy>every statement worth communicating is delivered concisely.>the classic writers knew that one should not mix written and spoken word styles.>some professors publish their lectures, this results in very bad style. (inb4 feynman btfo)>translate your stuff to latin and back to ensure readability.t. Schopenhauer
>>24754722Nietzsche is a shit poster he’s not even a philosopher
>>24754737NTA but you took a massive L on this one
>>24754816last time i try define terms
>In general I make the demand that whoever wishes to make himself acquainted with my philosophy shall read every line of me. For I am no voluminous writer, no fabricator of compendiums, no earner of pecuniary rewards, not one whose writings aim at the approbation of a minister; in a word, not one whose pen is under the influence of personal ends. I strive after nothing but the truth, and write as the ancients wrote, with the sole intention of preserving my thoughts, so that they may be for the benefit of those who understand how to meditate upon them and prize them.
>>24754281He was kind of the opposite of elitist if you read his criticism of Hegel. He was trying to get away from obscurantism and hated careerism.
>>24754737No we don't. Fuck you.
>>24755636This is a good point. Schopenhauer has a tendency to come across as elitist but throughout his works you'll find multiple sources that produce an anti-elitist result. If you value money as the highest good.>money is nothing but happiness abstracted. It is the default option for those who cannot find something fulfilling, once this happens the person can only pursue more money until they realize happiness cannot be un-abstracted.Material possessions are the highest good.>perfunctory dealings in everyday life will leave you under the impression most just value material possessions, it is best to let them carry on since anything else is an affront but there is nothing to be gained by arrogance whether material or abstract.You need a nation state to provide morals.>it's not possible for a nation state to provide grounding for moral decisions. There is no origination worth searching for and all means are perfunctory and self-defeating.You need the validation of others.>society cannot provide a sense of completeness. If you cannot do this in solitude then you will never gain it from others. You need a cause.>politics can never provide a means for emancipation or a restoration. It's just made up for resolution of disputes. He may have even claimed somewhere that politics as a science lacks any metaphysics at all. >you still have to do this shit but it will never leave you satisfied.If you remove all of these considerations you can still say Schopenhauer was elitist due to things like some people are profoundly good at music and art but the process of removing all the other considerations makes this ascetic and more of a paradox extraction than a glorification.
>>24755719in my opinion he was thoroughly elitist and saw overly complex language as the opposite of high culture. so there is no contradiction. if you consider Greeks and Romans as high culture you ought to write lucidly because that's their tradition. a child can pick up and read Aristotle or Seneca.
I find it really funny when anons actually read
>>24754815>he can't entertain someone btfoing him without strawmanning in his mind bot
>>24755859That is my case, right?
>>24754281>hurr durr if it has lots of words it must be deep.
>>24754281He's the opposite of an elitist, to be honest.
>>24754291I don't trust a person who isn't at least a little contradictory (in a good way).>>24754673>>24754684>>24754691Based.
>>24754308You’re genuinely retarded. He did it because he thought clarity was important in philosophy, and hated Hegel because he thought he hid nonsensical ideas in obscure language. But keep parrotting whatever shit you’re fed from youtube videos, /lit/ memes, or wherever you get your information from.
>>24755719>You need the validation of others.Maybe you do
he had claritas in mind
>>24754281I love him so much, bros.
>>24757943He was so fucking based.
Was he really a womanizer in his youth?
Schopenhauer was genuinely too pure for this world. If there’s a Heaven, he’s there.
