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Is he on the same level as Stevens, Whitman or Frost?

>>24754541
Damn, he's like a male Rupi Kaur.

>>24754549
That's Bukowski. He's a modern Bukowski.

>>24754555
For all the memery Bukowski was at least witty, this is just instagramposting

>>24754575
>For all the memery Bukowski was at least witty
was he, though? I'm yet to find wit in one of his poems. maybe I'm reading the wrong ones.

>>24754541
He's kind of a fascinating person, I barely knew who he was until recently. Everything he says is performative obviously, a nice affable narcissist, bullshit American values, etc.

>>24754593
First one I recall offhand is where he‘s enjoying a summer morning in detail and says near the end that he‘ll disregard whatever atrocities have been done to achieve this. I thought it was a pretty clever statement on the illusion and temporality of tranquility while living despite that.

>>24754549
I can't believe I will say this but even Rupi Kaur is somehow better than this lmao although not by much.

How is a man almost twice my age wrestling with thoughts I had when I was 14?

>>24754541
A bit like Adrien Brody's paintings

>>24754593
You’re definitely reading the wrong ones or being a contrarian faggot just for the sake of it. He has ALOT of edgy stupid lowbrow duds (though almost all of them seemed heartfelt and not forced) but he wrote some pretty insightful stuff too. Not everyone’s cup of tea not even mine really I don’t care for naked lunch or on the road or any of the vulgar beat bullshit but I can find a lot to appreciate in bukowskis works.

>>24754818
But Bukowski wasn't a beatnik. I like the one where he tells his readers to drink gasoline. A brighter mind would add "and also light up a match."

>>24754543

Lmao these Hollywood actors will spout inspirational quote shite like this and then steal all of LA's water for their penthouse pools during droughts.

>looks off to the side
deep af nay profound

>>24754543
But I'm not anyone's sibling nor parent.

>>24754606
Sorry its not up to your level, Ivan

>>24754541
I give him credit for thinking and writing

>>24754631
this is what all celebrities go through when they reach the 'I'm probably dying soon' age

>>24754543
Stevens and Frost, no.
Whitman, emphatically yes.

>>24754631
>How is a man almost twice my age wrestling with thoughts I had when I was 14?
Celebrity is always a case of arrested development, where due to constant praise for their extremely easy life circumstances they never have to change until their circumstances do, much like someone who was born rich.

>>24754555
>>24754593
don’t ever get the idea I am a poet; you can see me
at the racetrack any day half drunk
betting quarters, sidewheelers and straight thoroughs,
but let me tell you, there are some women there
who go where the money goes, and sometimes when you
look at these whores these onehundreddollar whores
you wonder sometimes if nature isn’t playing a joke
dealing out so much breast and ass and the way
it’s all hung together, you look and you look and
you look and you can’t believe it; there are ordinary women
and then there is something else that wants to make you
tear up paintings and break albums of Beethoven
across the back of the john; anyhow, the season
was dragging and the big boys were getting busted,
all the non-pros, the producers, the cameraman,
the pushers of Mary, the fur salesman, the owners
themselves, and Saint Louie was running this day:
a sidewheeler that broke when he got in close;
he ran with his head down and was mean and ugly
and 35 to 1, and I put a ten down on him.
the driver broke him wide
took him out by the fence where he’d be alone
even if he had to travel four times as far,
and that’s the way he went it
all the way by the outer fence
traveling two miles in one
and he won like he was mad as hell
and he wasn’t even tired,
and the biggest blonde of all
all ass and breast, hardly anything else
went to the payoff window with me.

that night I couldn’t destroy her
although the springs shot sparks
and they pounded on the walls.
later she sat there in her slip
drinking Old Grandad
and she said
what’s a guy like you doing
living in a dump like this?
and I said
I’m a poet

and she threw back her beautiful head and laughed.

you? you . . . a poet?

I guess you’re right, I said, I guess you’re right.

but still she looked good to me, she still looked good,
and all thanks to an ugly horse
who wrote this poem.

>>24754543
>>24754541
There’s literally nothing wrong with this.

>>24755712
Hi Matthew

the two poems posted ITT are terrible. I thought that clown was more self-aware than this.

bump

there’s a bluebird in my heart that
wants to get out
but I’m too tough for him,
I say, stay in there, I’m not going
to let anybody see
you.

there’s a bluebird in my heart that
wants to get out
but I pour whiskey on him and inhale
cigarette smoke
and the whores and the bartenders
and the grocery clerks
never know that
he’s
in there.

there’s a bluebird in my heart that
wants to get out
but I’m too tough for him,
I say,
stay down, do you want to mess
me up?
you want to screw up the
works?
you want to blow my book sales in
Europe?

there’s a bluebird in my heart that
wants to get out
but I’m too clever, I only let him out
at night sometimes
when everybody’s asleep.
I say, I know that you’re there,
so don’t be sad.

then I put him back,
but he’s still singing a little
in there, I haven’t quite let him
die
and we sleep together like
that
with our
secret pact
and it’s nice enough to
make a man
weep, but I don’t
weep, do
you?

>>24754541
It's awful, but he's still a turbo Chad.

free verse was a mistake

>>24754606
>Everything he says is performative obviously
On what basis is it obvious?

>>24756851
not him, nor do I care about this guy, but you can easily just assume that all actors are narcissistic and you wouldn't be far from the truth

>>24754541
I do hate the term performative male. But if there ever was such a thing, McConaughey's the guy.

I like the cumboys take on him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEyWnjCCC5I

>>24756859
Matt strikes me as an unselfish, straight guy. He's the type to tell you how it is and not mind the merited clapback. To let you know when you're way off and when you've done alright. All of this destructive criticism hinging purely on gut reaction is undeserved.

>>24756869
Why do people like you exist? It must be some kind of spiritual test that I'm failing.

>>24756927
hero worship is quite normal for the impressionable young male
would it be better if it was Caesar or Napoleon rather than some rando actor?

>>24756928
Yes, it would. By a significant margin.

>>24756928
At least they did somethin you know.

>>24756928
why are you referring to yourself as "an impressionable young man"

nigga u a flagrant homosexual

>>24754541
>>24754543
Not poetry.

>>24756851
Listen to this and tell me it's not performative https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48L6B0fays4

I had no opinion of this guy, other than he was an occasionally decent actor, having never heard him interviewed.

Then I saw his podcast, with that "sadguru" pajeet. I've despised this fake ass, narcissistic hammy retard piece of shit more than anyone in Hollywood. I boil with rage listening to this motherfucker speak anything other than scripted dialogue on screen.

and get the fuck off my fuckin' football games you bald cocksucking texan faggot FUCK

>>24756928
>would it be better if it was Caesar or Napoleon rather than some rando actor?
You're naming people with actual accomplishments compared to a useless sack of shit who plays pretend for a living. Yes it would be better.

do you read the whole thing in his voice?

>>24757024
hollywood actors like to larp as litterateurs because their occupation is to psyop reets.

>>24754541
>fails to list an example of an ideal he would defend passionately
it's always the same with actors

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>>24755712