Is opium /lit/?
>>24756820It's by far the most /lit/ drug. Coleridge, Byron, De Quincey, Strindberg, etc.
Only if you're William Burroughs.
>>24756820/lit/ is my opium.
>By 1882, Nietzsche was taking huge doses of opium and continued to have trouble sleeping. In 1883, while staying in Nice, he was writing out his own prescriptions for the sedative chloral hydrate, signing them "Dr. Nietzsche".>Paul Reé and Nietzsche were in love with Lou Salomé who was an author herself.>After their advances were rejected they spend weeks together and Salomé hoped they could live in some kind of platonic study group which she called "the trinity“. >Nietzsche wrote: "Every morning I despair how to survive the day... Tonight I will take so much opium that I will lose my sanity: Where is one more person to worship! But I know you all through and through.“>He went on insulting them for days and then left. They never saw each other again.
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>>24756835The Chinaman shewed me his thigh, he knew he wanted me to know it, he knew he wanted to know him knowing him knowing it. He puffed, I puffed him.
Copium is.
>>24756820Yes. Opium and laudanum and morphine and hashish (eaten) and absinthe and syphilis and tuberculosis.
Opium, absinthe and leaving your syphilis untreated are the quintessence of the /lit/ lifestyle
>>24756975>If we combined our philosophical powers we could change the world!>Please marry me.>Please marry me.
>>24756820Only if you light it.Which, I mean, you have to to smoke it. So...
>>24756833>blocks your path
Opium is always lit nigga
its the best drug ever, nothing comes close, not even other opiates
>>24759095I knew you gay niggers will be here.
>>24759287I lament that I never tried opium. By the time I had access to order some, I was taking such large Oxy doses that people told me I wouldn't feel the opium especially as it was an expensive niche item on most sites that would have to ship from Spain. Then it was on to #3 Heroin, and finally Methadone. Every day for the past year with no slip-ups. I don't long to use heroin but I do wish I could try Opium.
I'm writing a story where the protagonist is a Civil War veteran who was wounded in the war and became addicted to opiates, and the antagonist is a lawman who is also an addict. They're in some far-flung western town, and rob and kill a Chinaman of his opium to avoid dope sickness during a medicine shortage. Anyone know slang words for opium that wouldn've been used in the 1880s?
>>24759479stupid argument from the people, just gotta take more, simple as. I smoked #3 and took lots of oxys too, but only when i didnt have opium. Jesus that fucking long duration, that warm tingling feeling in your gut and legs, that slight psychedelic aspect that other opiates dont have, the nice bitter poppy taste. Makes me salivate just thinking about it even tho its like 5 years ago till i last took it. Now just taking kratom and low opiates like once or twice a week, sometimes a oxy to treat myself every few months. If you got a garden or a balcony you can grow it yourself, its not that hard. You wont get much, but enough for like 2 or 3 proper doses if you have limited growing space. But gotta refine it. Raw opium feels really dirty
I only ever took DXM and DPH do I still qualify as /lit? I never wrote anything in my entire life btw if that matters.
>>24759552Are you trying to compare cough syrup to drugs?
>>24759493Did you take opium in tea-form?
>>24759493Interesting, I will of course one day be trying it, I would like to grow some poppies. I am on 50mg a day of Methadone so unfortunately I fear that I would not be able to feel it, and I don't want to accidentally dose too much and pass away from respiratory depression. If I ever unlock myself from these liquid handcuffs, when I'm say a year clean from it, I will give Opium a try. Though that might just start the addiction cycle again from the beginning. Opiates make feel just right, makes living tolerable, no pain, no boredom, heavy relaxation, and warmth, dulled emotions but not zero emotions like benzos or something shit like that. Just takes the edge off and unlike alcohol doesn't make you feel like shit the more you consume.
>>24759560Nyesn't
>>24759580was exactly my main reason, they kind of jumpstarted my life, i was a lonely basement dwelling neet doing jackshit and afraid of the outside. On opiates i stopped giving a fuck and started to go restaurants, operas, concerts to the cinema, to horse races and other stuff all alone on my own. They gave me the courage to discover and experience so much the outside world has to offer and i would never had the push without them. I dont get people who take this stuff to just nod out on their couch, but they have probably different demons to battle, so i try not to judge.>>24759567i mostly did drink it as a tea, yes. sometimes i smoked it in a crackpipe or on a foil, but rarely
>>24756975>>Nietzsche wrote: "Every morning...Source for this quote? Google just shows a reddit thread and /lit/.
>>24760022>googling in current yearngmihttp://www.nietzschesource.org/#eKGWB/BVN-1882,360>An jedem Morgen verzweifle ich, wie ich den Tag überdaure. Ich schlafe nicht mehr: was hilft es 8 Stunden zu marschiren! Woher habe ich diese heftigen Affekte! Ach etwas Eis! Aber wo giebt es für mich noch Eis! Heute Abend werde ich so viel Opium nehmen, daß ich die Vernunft verliere: Wo ist noch ein M<ensch> den man verehren könnte! Aber ich kenne Euch Alle durch und durch.Bonus:>in opio veritas
>>24756833Alcohol and tobacco are definitely above it. It's in third place followed by mushrooms.
>>24759852> dont get people who take this stuff to just nod out on their couch, but they have probably different demons to battleright on the money. some people just need to tend their wounds. some people just had childhood's akin to a serial killer's and need to tend that.besides, what more do you need? you're already high. our man burroughs said that junk relieves you from the complete process of tension and relief, leaving anything else useless. he also talked about how nodding off and getting high reminded him of his mom. sometimes a son of a bitch wants to feel blanketed, you know?i enjoyed reading what you wrote about opium btw.
>>24760101read them sadly too late, was just reading the most basic classics when i was high on opium. But have been reading some burroughs now and finished confessions of an english opium eater and sometimes it was really scary how much i saw myself in them sometimes. But way more in dequincey than in burroughs lmao, that guy was just a madman. Wish i had discovered them sooner. But the blanket you describe is more like an armor for me when i go outside. Im probably from the other side of the spectrum thats why i swek experiences while others have experienced too much. But still dont understand how people can say that this stuff is better than 1000 orgasms or shit like that. I had several experiences sober that i can never reach with any substance. Opiates are more like a buff you have. For me its the same feeling as a warm summernight with a slight breeze thats warm but not hot, so it nearly feels like being submerged in warm water. Or the exact same feeling you have in your dreams. Where you dont feel to cold or too hot but just right, and even when its night its still kinda bright. Like being in a filmstudio thats shooting a nightscene so you still got the headlights. You can still distuingish colours and contrasts. Or being on top of a hill and see the city at night, seeing a party on the other side of the river, you hear faintly music and laughter and the lights of some bonfire and lampignons reflecting in the ripples of the lapping water. And opium is the bridge for me to say. i know it sounds corny, but for some reason i associate opium very strongly with these images. maybe you will get what i am saying, but when i piss in a pissoir on opiates it feels exactly like pissing in a dream. That kind where you feel midstream that somethings wrong and you wake up, check your underpants and thank god that you havent pissed yourself in your sleep. The exact feeling i have when i piss in real life on them, only that i cant wake up. Sometimes just for a fraction of a second i am afraid that i will wake up and will have pissed my pants and bed only to slip back into reality. But only when i pee standing up. Dont have this feeling when i pee sitting. Sometimes i get flashes of real distant memories too. Have you read cities of red nights? Was the last book of burroughs i read. Naked lunch was actually pretty understandable if you read junkie before.
>>24760207that's cool. i haven't read de quincey. should i?>more like an armor for me when i go outsidehappened to me too, but i ended up feeling embarrased about talking too much nonsense and, like burroughs said again, i ended up talking to people who i wouldn't give a fuck about sober and vice versa. i feel like i get you but maybe i'm more withdrawn.>Have you read cities of red nights?no. should i? loved junkie and naked lunch. been meaning to get into his later work.i think i get what you mean with your descriptions. they were nice btw. opium just feels fuzzy and right. had to quit because it made everything too much of a living hell tho.
>>24756820>>24756833No, it's /ic/. Fuck off /lit/ nerds, all you retards deal with is ink
>>24760655if you loved junkie and naked lunch you will like cities of the red night too, it actually has a story thats pretty coherent for burroughs standarts. It actually contains several different stories that are connected. It has noir, bit of scifi, occult and adventure. Bit of lovecraft influence. Reminded me of cloud atlas. In the end it gets a bit too spacey and burroughs rehashes a few things and motives from his earlier stuff but it was a pretty fun read. And it isnt too long. But the penguin edition has one of the ugliest covers ever, so beware, maybe get another one. Fucking ginsberg made the coverpic i think. I hate this fuck so much. My biggest criticism of burroughs is that he was friends with that fucking prick
>>24756975theres a book titled "A Philosophy On Walking" which has an entire chapter dedicated to Nietzche and how his extreme volume of walking coincided with his cognitive ability. i dont recall a single mention of him using opium. i felt like the chapter was kinda sus bc i never heard of this habit of his before and the fact that it directly implies his exercise alone dictated his mental health makes me disappointed in that book after reading this
>>24760888His walking is well known. I've heard of it before.
>>24756820How does one score opium nowadays? Is that even possible?
>>24761178Ah, wait: according to a Google search, it turns out here in the west, pure opium can't really be found easily, and most "opium" that can be found in non-medical settings is Heroin, an opium derivative.How fucking gay