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It seems like DeepSeek understands Esoteric Hobbesianism better than you plebs
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>>24758644
yah/ so does microsoft copilot? any ai word agrigator would better regurgitate any doctrine better than 99% of people.
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DeepSeek is dumb as fuck. Use Grok or GPT-5 instead
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>>24758672
I don't know whether deepseek is dumber but it seems to elaborate more than chatgpt. I think they edited chatgpt to be more simple.
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>>24758644
I actually referenced Hobbes and Berkeley in an essay years ago regarding the "all seeing eye of the state".
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>>24758644
yes, it stitches together what's been written about it seamlessly
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>>24758690
Yes, all idealism is inherently tyrannical. They are nightmare philosophies where everything is forced to follow abstract laws or principles. Hegel or Marx's "dialectic," Spinoza's notion that God's infinite power necessitates that he produces everything in his power to produce (a notion shared by neoplatonism), Descartes proposition (one of Leibniz's main problems with Descartes) that matter necessarily goes on to take on all forms that are possible because it just mechanically follows its transformations, and so on. Hobbes is seemingly an "authoritarian" but actually de-totalizes the state by grounding it in the equality of men (for Hobbes, the basis of the war of all against all is that every man has the capability to kill every man, with even a weak man being able to resort to schemes to kill a strong man, and this is the fundamental equality of beings). Ironically, Hobbes is the one who values individual sovereignty most of all.
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>>24758644
>Esoteric Hobbesianism

You people have completely lost your minds.
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>>24758708
Slaves of the world mind can't understand esoteric hobbesianism
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'The Soul is the cage of the body' - Foucault
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>>24758713
they have yet to transcend level 1, the material
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>>24758722
According to Hobbes, "Matter" is synonymous with "Substance." It is merely that which is knowable about beings. Any time we cognize another being it presents itself to us as "matter" i.e. it has numerical properties of extension and temporality. The Esoteric Hobbesian recognizes that because all beings are originally free and equal, and because there are now abstract laws, there is no necessity that forces beings to appear to us in this way. The true, inner essence of beings may not be "substantial", i.e. material or numerical/mathematical, because they are hiding themselves from us. Beings voluntarily become substantial when they agree to participate in the common reality that allows them to interact with other beings in order to achieve their own ends. This does not mean that their inner essence is negated, but it does mean they take the external form of "matter."
Wang Fuzhi is a "materialist" because he believes that "only concrete things exist" and "the way is the management of concrete affairs." This statement of materialism is not some kind of crude scientific materialism, it is simply the recognition that beings are not controlled or determined by abstract laws, but the abstract laws or principle is produced by the essence of the being.
For UG, matter is again the only way through which we can "know" other beings. "Matter" is something that the collective knowledge of humanity, passed down through the world mind, uses to interact with the world. According to UG, the true "body" is not necessarily material because it cannot be grasped by thought. The body is not a material but a LIVING being.
Thus, the materialism of the Hobbesianism is a practical materialism, not a dogma about what kind of beings can exist or what the essence of beings can be. Hobbesianism, as a nominalist philosophy, rejects the notion that beings can be determined by abstract principles from the beginning, thus they cannot be inherently constrained to the form of matter.
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>>24758644
I use it for debugging because I don’t need the FBI looking at my source code.
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>>24758720
Keyed
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>>24758752
... anon
I...
Nevermind, you will continue to do as you do.



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