Science kills faith because it slowly robs the world of the conditions where belief could even make sense. Once you start seeing the universe not as a stage for divine providence but as a system of impersonal forces and mathematical regularities the old framework collapses. The Christian promise of a purposeful cosmos overseen by a personal God gets hollowed out until it's just poetry without substance. What's left is this mechanistic machine-world indifferent to our existence where "meaning" is no longer baked into the structure of reality. That's why atheism and nihilism inevitably grow in the soil of scientific rationalism, it strips away the illusions that kept people anchored in hope. Nietzsche saw it clearly, the same devotion to truth that Christianity demanded ends up killing Christianity because science takes that demand to its logical conclusion. And when you stand in that stripped-down landscape you don't find God, you find a void. The more science advances the wider that void becomes until faith looks less like a foundation and more like a coping mechanism that can't survive its own children.
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what's funny is that scientific reduction also reduces the human person and identity to an automaton guided by impersonal forces. if we are an impersonal bundle of mechanical actions just like the rest of the universe, then both God and us are purposeless. at that point, when everything's been reduced to meaninglessness, you might as well see the world in the same enchanted wonder that primitives used to, because the fact that you experience an illusion of "meaning" shouldn't make sense at all.
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>>24758817meaninglessness begets meaning
>>24758817What I >>24758844 mean is we need to keep following the logic and this issue resolves itself
>>24758842Replying to your own threads? Anyways, just give us the transactivist lust ideology and save us the trouble of a 10+ non-sequitur strawman memes
>>24758848Can you elaborate more? That sounds interesting
>>24758817science being overrun by leftists
>>24758817Cope, "secular naturalism" is every bit as dogmatic and based on aesthetics and feels as religion. One is not "forced to it by the facts," one rather interprets the facts through it as one's interpretive lens.
>>24758817You're painfully naive if you think science just nobly "killed faith" and left us with some enlightened, meaningful worldview. Nietzsche didn't think "science kills faith" in some straight line cause effect way. For him the death of God came from the whole Western obsession with truth, Christianity's own moral demand for honesty eventually turned back on itself and dissolved its metaphysics. Science is just one symptom of that, not the lone executioner. He also never claimed atheism is "forced by the facts"; every worldview, Christian, atheist, scientific, is an interpretation shaped by human drives and values, not a neutral reading of reality. He mocked both naive scientism and naive belief, seeing secular naturalism as just another value laden faith, a "last morality" rather than some objective final stage. And look around: we don't have meaning today, culture is spiritually hollow, people fill the void with consumerism, distraction, anguish, or far more oppressive religions. Some atheists just collapse under the weight and kill themselves. Even today you can see the cracks: atheists and agnostics show higher suicide rates (correlation, but still telling), clearly not because of some "they saw the truth" reason, and it's exactly the kind of meaning vacuum Nietzsche warned science alone could not fill. Your post is a shallow, half digested TED talk version of a thinker you clearly don't understand.
>>24758817based and truegods love is the source of all great art
>>24759522You don't understand philosophy, chatGPT
>>24758817Retarded premise. Science confines itself to the empirical realm. It has nothing to say about belief.
Read Prometheus and Atlas. You've fallen for Descartes lie
>>24758817This is false. This is only a lapsing judgement of the few enforced on many by rhetoric. The true geniuses, scientific or otherwise, heard the music of reality. This song is very spiritual, it is absurd, it is extreme, it is sublime, what it isn't is ordinary.
>>24759901>arguing with a computerAre you stupid?
Kant solved this
Doesn’t Buddhism start with the premise that at the bottom everything is in fact a void and reality is just a sort of mirage?
>>24759522Higher IQ also correlates with higher suicide rates
>>24758817I just want to say that atheists still absurdly believe in morals and christians still exist and their population is growing.
>>24758817Correct>>24758836>if we are an impersonal bundle of mechanical actions just like the rest of the universe, then both God and us are purposelessYour philosophy says more about yourself than reality
Spengler explained all this better.
some have to fight for god, lose and not die to see through it and nothing else would do the trick
>>24761980>atheists still absurdly believe in moralspsychology even. anything but unpredictable behavior
>>24758817Wrong from the start, "science" tries hard not to embrace any absolute structure like mathematics.
>>24761692they don't believe that jesus rose from the dead though
>>24758817Sounds about right
