>>24759354
He'll always be based for being the first to predict and describe incelism. From a literary standpoint, he's not amazing, but he wrote novels the way they were intended to be written since Balzac.

Looks determine socialisation, socialisation determines personality
When you're an ugly kid, you aren't given any social grace, you attempt to be funny and it fails? You're instantly shut down and mocked. Try to be nice to a girl because you have a crush on her? Your classmates find out about it, think it's hilarious and harass you for two weeks over it. Adults do not give you attention, attention just does not naturally occur unless you turn yourself into the clown, an even worse fate for most. Some through circumstances that are only ever partially the result of their own actions are able to develop a decent personality and through that they're able to build on that foundation but they're always playing catch up to the good looking kids. If you're ugly and your formerly ugly friends start catching your classmates' eyes due to puberty, your friends will feel ashamed of you being around them, they will see you as a pity project and before soon they will come to resent you. The worst are those who were ugly and then stopped being ugly. To say that ugly people remain single because they have bad personalities is not a moral indictment, it's just a statement of fact.
Ugly people are disgusting inside.

>>24759372
>When you're an ugly kid, you aren't given any social grace
Correct, people dismiss what you say regardless, which makes you walk on eggshells in every conversation and turns you into an autistic retard

it does not sound like he has read many novels to be honest

>>24759372
The worst part about all this is that its something no teacher or parent will tell you because its not appropriate or depressing or that they dont even believe it themselves. I cant imagine how terrible it must feel to be a high school teacher and watch the natural selection happening in front of you every day while knowing theres nothing you can do about it like a wildlife photographer watched a lion rip a gazelles guts out

>>24759381
>I cant imagine how terrible it must feel to be a high school teacher and watch the natural selection happening in front of you every day while knowing theres nothing you can do about it like a wildlife photographer watched a lion rip a gazelles guts out
That's only for the good (male) ones. Female teachers tare perfectly in their place and love to see normies bully ugly children

>>24759372
the vast majority of people (the ones posting here too) are not exceptionally ugly, just average by definition. the system glorifies looks, but there's no need to blindly follow its value judgements. yes, certain people are born with various advantages. is this enough of a reason to give up for the entirety of your life? nah

>>24759408
Bluepill cuck

>>24759372
>>24759381
You faggots are retarded. Most of pretty people get molested in their childhoods and teenage, everyone looks at them like prey. And if you worship bodily beauty then know that it fades away. See how pathetically Hollywood actors bog themselves in the vain hopes of delaying their demise. It must be brutal.

Life fucks everyone. There is only one trajectory and that is disease, suffering, old age and death.

>>24759418
Disney is calling you to write their new animation movie for children

>>24759411
Expand on that. I'm not denying looks have an influence on our lives, I'm just saying it's a part of the system and it's easy and sensible to blame it, but then you still have to live your life within it. In a world without physical attraction, we would place more focus on intellect, kindness, strength of character. Just new reasons to feel insufficient. It never stops.

>>24759418
>There is only one trajectory and that is disease, suffering, old age and death.

what cope is this, yeah everyone dies. you can die after having a really good time or a really bad one.

>BUT ATTRACTIVE PEOPLE GET MOLESTED

what absolute cope

>>24759446
>we would place more focus on intellect, kindness, strength of character.

and those are all examples of things that can be improved. and they are things that are invisible until you get to know someone. the problem of attractiveness is that people use it to make up their mind about you in 2 seconds. a woman knows if she wants to talk to you the same instant she looks at your face. theres nothing more to it than that

>>24759459
>a really good time or a really bad one.
No such thing. There is only present. You can have all of the experiences that you want but when your demise will come it will be same as any beggar, shopkeeper or a king.
>what absolute cope
It is not a cope, vast majority of them do get molested.

Funny how you glossed over the Hollywood and whole demise bit.

>>24759462
I think most people are somewhere in the medium range, that is, not extremely superficial unless it's an interaction at a club or something. Instant attraction is not what keeps the world spinning. Average looks can be improved by decent hygiene and dressing style. Again, there are exceptions and disadvantages, but I think the very idea of dates means people usually have to spend some time together to assess their attraction.

>>24759472
>>24759471
put it this way, im not saying attractive people live life in total bliss or being ugly is a total misery. we all live somewhat inbetween

however a lot of what happens in your life will be stuff that is invisible to you, an attractive person will get a job and think its because they interviewed well and have a good personality, but really it was just because the subconcious effect of being attractive made the interviewer like them the most. the specifics of what actually happens or doesnt happen doesnt matter, its all the stuff that is happening invisibly in the background that never gets mentioned and we all pretend doesnt exist.

>>24759354
In my experience horrifically ugly people who are seductive and abusive have far more access to sex than beautiful people. The ugliness combined with the abusive seduction really stimulates the human being.

>>24759487
i know about myself that if im in a room of 5 people im going to gravitate towards the most attractive person not for any sexual reason but just because i feel like if i can attain their approval then that is worth more than the approval of anyone else. i think other people are also like this but im not sure, ive definitely observed it many many times.

>>24759488
i have yet to encounter anyone that fits this description, maybe like serial killer rapist psychos are like this but it sounds like a rare type

Has he lost his teeth and chosen to forgo dentures???

>>24759555
thats just what getting old is like

>>24759487
it is considered impolite to point out the obvious. however, there's plenty of literature and academic work exploring the workings of drive and desire. Lacan comes to mind.

people who are very attractive are commonly considered to be not very intelligent simply because they didn't have to develop heavy intellectual skills to succeed. it's a huge generalization, but if we take it as true, and you're aware of this fact, you can use it to your advantage.

>>24759579
>but if we take it as true, and you're aware of this fact, you can use it to your advantage.
If we assume something is true, and we act like it is true, then we could use this perceived truthfulness to gain an advantage... Isn't there a whole New Age movement around that concept?

>>24759585
what i'm suggesting is that learning more about the societal mechanics of desire can be beneficial in said society, seeing as most people don't do it. is this something you disagree with?

>>24759446
>In a world without physical attraction, we would place more focus on intellect, kindness, strength of character.
You mean we would place more focus on... the beautiful things?
I'm not saying this about you, but most people in this thread are massively coping btw. They want to stay both weak and shallow because it's the easy way, to be bitter and drown in self-pity and pretend it's rational and deterministic.
Well, it's not. It's your own choice if you are not beautiful in any way. If you didn't build character against the odds, if loneliness didn't lead to depth, if you only see beauty by other people's standards, if you think you are ugly and do nothing about it.

The key is to chemically or physically castrate oneself

>>24759372
This is absolutely true. Without turning this into a personal blog I can personally attest to this. I was ignored and blatantly excluded from socialization as soon as I entered school as a 4 year old. Subconsciously you will eventually pick up on it and turn to becoming a 'class clown' for the attention every single person without fail requires. Eventually these missed social cues will snowball and you will fall very far behind in the real world, trouble dating, trouble finding a job, etc. Also, what a lot of people forget to mention is that people who are marginalized and therefore lonely will eventually develop mental illnesses, most commonly depression, anxiety and even OCD, which for a person already marginalized, will give broader society an excuse to further outcast this individual.

>>24759354
>le saw a woman with a flat ass today
>even if there was a g string on it's still a flat ass mon amie
>oui, le state of le society

It's a national emergency is what it is.

Best living author
> On my return I sensed that something new was in the offing. A girl was sitting at the table next to mine, alone. She was much younger than Veronique, she might have been seventeen; that aside, she horribly resembled her. Her extremely simple, rather ample dress of beige did not really show off the contours of her body; they scarcely had need of it. The wide hips, the firm and smooth buttocks; the suppleness of the waist which leads the hands up to a pair of round, ample and soft breasts; the hands which rest confidently on the waist, espousing the noble rotundity of the hips. I knew it all; all I had to do was close my eyes to remember. Up to the face, full and candid, expressing the calm seduction of the natural woman, confident of her beauty. The calm serenity of the young filly, still frisky, eager to try out her limbs in a short gallop. The calm tranquillity of Eve, in love with her own nakedness, knowing herself to be obviously and eternally desirable. I realized that two years of separation had changed nothing; I knocked back my bourbon in one. This was the moment Tisserand chose to return; he was perspiring slightly; he spoke to me; I think he wished to know if I intended trying something with the girl. I didn't reply; I was starting to feel like vomiting, and I had a hard-on; things were at a pretty pass. I said 'Excuse me a moment,' and crossed the discotheque in the direction of the toilets. Once inside I put two fingers down my throat, but the amount of vomit proved feeble and disappointing. Then I masturbated with altogether greater success: I began thinking of Veronique a bit, of course, but then I concentrated on vaginas in general and that did the trick. Ejaculation came after a couple of minutes; it brought me a feeling of confidence and certainty.

I loved my job ;_;

You mffs dont brush your teeths, dont lose weight, dont go the gym, dont dress well, cant even walk with your back straight, stutter when asking a girl out and blame your look for the rejection. Can't even smile during a job interview. and then blame all on genetics kek.

>>24760587
Fr fr nah bigger

>>24759364
I don't think he predicted it, just acknowledged it. I remember the old world still, a charmed life at the cost of anything which doesn't fit.

>>24759568
Refusing to wear dentures when your teeth fail is not part of getting old. Mikey's just crazy

>>24759809
As someone who’s decently attractive physically, I really don’t think it’s strictly a looks thing. I started with mental illnesses, and that alone was enough to cause social setbacks. People who are physically ugly, but of sound mind usually get on fine.

Meanwhile, people who are mentally unstable have more of an uphill battle. Normies have an uncanny talent to sniff out people who are neurodivergent and that makes them unconsciously think of them as an “other”.

Is it true that En Route is hard to enjoy if you aren't catholic? Is En rade really that disappointing?

>>24759381
There's a strong chance that your average high school teacher is either female, meaning she knows nothing of this, or is a male drunk on some sort of secular morality or teleology.
If they notice it, they just dismiss it or incorporate into their worldview. Makes me think of that professor who longed after one of his students only to lose her to a superior male, before he killed himself he posted some crazy ass webpage where he stated "the pessimists were right!"