Can books radicalize people?
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>>24761702its reddit, actually
>>24761689Holy shit I hate leftist normies.
>>24761689>These books which have nothing to do with my talking points actually do and they are pro me btwAlso constantly saying pro-Antifa gives the game away who made it.
>>24761725For the left fascist means healthy good person but is also a projection of themselves.
>>24761712>>24761725This is made by right wingers though
>>24761689On the topic of radicalization...I wanna try to get redpilled on the 764 and the accelerationist groups that are spawning as of late, is picrel a good introductory reading list?>>24761702If it's bait, who's fishing?
>>24761712Read carefully.
>>24761689Yes, retards are people.
>>24761689Jesus fuck, communist here, these fucking suck. They're Septic and aimed at the performatively stupid. Genuinely stupid people know when you're fucking with them, and can "taste" this shite.ABC of Anarchist Communism doesn't condescend.
worst false flag since the uss liberty, these impotent powder-kegs need to get some better material than just "how do you do fellow chuds?" and "I can't breed! *shoots up church*".
>>24761754>Yes, retards are people.What if we systematically treated retards as if they weren't people, as if they were life unworthy of life?
>>24761784then you'd finally have a real justification for your persecution complex.
>>24761784Life would become never ending high school, which is exactly what it is for the vast majority of people and ironically the ones that turn life into never ending high school (the ones who never grow up) are the ones who hated high school.
>>24761689>Fight Club>pro-left wing terrorism>Fight Club...left wingLOL FUCK. They couldn't get it more wrong if they actually tried.
>>24761734Only the left believes that fascism = when the government doesn't give free estrogen and doesn't teach little kids about gender ideology
>>24761820And? This is still made by right-wingers. Antifa is a terrorist organization.
>>24761689Feel like left should read 1984 closer. I'm not sure anything fits the destruction of language so much as what they've done with gender, but even their therapy language feels like newspeak.
>>24761798I don't particularly remember Fight Club being left wing or right wing or very political at all reallyIf anything, maybe it was anarchic
>>24761689Is there a radicalizing the right image for comparative shitposting?
>>24761834I noted that a long time ago. It's incredible how prescient that book was. Not only that, but consider the recent Charlie Kirk assassination. Jimmy Kimmel went on TV and used his massive platform to tell a blatant lie that went against all facts. Yet he told the lie bold-faced like he believed it. It's the adherence in facts one wants to believe, rather than the truth itself, that really underpins the culturally Marxist left.
Weed, porn, grifting influencers and a community of likeminded retards are responsible for the majority of the radicalization that happens. If you're a degenerate stoner and you have a bunch of witless cumbrains telling you the malevolent booklovers are ruining your life, you might one day go into a library and open fire.
>>24761689Yikes only 1 possibly 2 non white male authors? Maybe the person making this list is actually the fascist
>>24761833Saying thay 1984 is pro-antifa is coaiming that our current government is similar to 1984's. Same happens with Handmaid's tale, even though that's true in countries with Sharia Law. I doubt a right winger would make those claims.
>>24762330>Saying thay 1984 is pro-antifa is coaiming that our current government is similar to 1984'sThat makes no sense. Claiming that 1984 is pro-antifa is claiming that the leftists reading 1984 think the current government is similar to 1984's. And that's exactly what a right winger would say. Same happens with Handmaid's tale.
>>24762358whoa the ol reversaroni, masterful
lol is this what conservatives are afraid is creating antifa terrorists? dr suess?Meanwhile on the right wing you have insane books that are explicitly about murder and terrorism like Turner Diaries and Siege but those are just fine of course
>>24761689Apparently reality can't radicalize people.Being under constant psychological attack from corporations since birth can't radicalize you. that isn't radical. That's entirely normal and healthy. It's radical to think perpetual corporate psychological warfare isn't healthy. It's great. God is demand, and the worthy are those who can manufacture it.
4chan radicalized me by demonstrating in 4K how the right wing psyche is driven by malicious sadism and not mere ignorance.
>>24762369To be fair, Marx's whole schtick is that violent revolution is historically necessary and that ethics are made-up nonsense
>>24762358>this picture was made by a right winger, it claims 1984 is antifa because a right winger would think that a left winger would think that 1984 is similat yo our current government and thus the protagonists would be part of antifaThis is your argument. Read it slowly and think about it. Be honest with yourself.
>>24762379To be fair, you see the same kind of sadism on the lefthttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B6lkerabf%C3%A4lle
Scratch the paint off of conservative ideology and it reads "excuses to be evil."
>>24762383>>24762358Is similar to*phoneposting
>>24761689How come those organizations on the bottom are pro-israel?
>>24762382You didn’t read Marx, he explicitly said the natural contradictions of capitalism will cause the state to wither and die and trying to speed things up with revolutions before material conditions have been established is fruitless and stupid.
>>24762391And Cuba, Venezuela and North Korea are doing so well, right?
>>24762391Marx also explicitly said that this will inevitably lead to a violent revolution and that it is nothing short of destiny.
>>24762372It might probably radicalize some weirdoes who at the end of the day only care about material pleasures and comforts and seek nothing else other than to gratify their cravings.
>>24762391So Marx thinks capitalists, the state, and private property will inevitably and naturally just vanish into the ether? What a retard.
>>24762383>claims 1984 is antifaThe picture does not claim that. It claims that leftists reading it get radicalized because they think it is antifa.
>>24761689wait, the grapes of warth is pro commie? I might give it a shot then
>>24762402No, anon is an obfuscating moron. Marx thinks that there will inevitably be a violent revolution because capitalists do not listen to reason according to him. Schumpeter was the one who thought capitalism will wither and die from its success.
>>24762402What a retard who wrote the seminal volume 3, a book full of mathematical formulas that exactly predicted the TRPF and immortalized the LTV and Keynes Hayek Milton all seethed endlessly over this graph kek
>>24762396>hurr durr sanction countries so they can't participate in a global economy>like a low IQ retard, use that as evidence that communism doesn't workgee how about all the capitalist shit hole countries that aren't sanctioned and yet still became a failed states kek
>>24762396USA just bailed out neoliberal Argentina with $20 billion
>>24762418>TRPF and immortalized the LTVThings that literally only marxists care about, who think that their economics is like the secret key to the universe. And all because it gives their meaningless lives meaning.
>>24761845>"prescient"1984 is a criticism of the USSR and all the Hegelian and Marxist BS propagandized back then. They're doing the same things they've always done.
>>24762426>IT WAS SANCTIONS SAAARAnd why people flee those countries and not the other way around? >>24762428And Mexico keeps bailing out Cuba. On top, there are two millions of Venezuelan refugees in Argentina and they get constant influx of migrants from adjacent countries and not the other way around.
>>24762429Yeah, marxists operate in the real world and deal exclusively in material conditions. You operate in fantasy land and larp as a neonazi tradcath.
>>24761689any so called "leftist" radicalized by this shit is beyon retarded
>>24762446The only one who radicalized anyone there is The Handmaid's Tale and it was women with a latent kink for submission.
>>24762445Matter is incomprehensible. And marx's "material conditions" are vague and logically conclude in biological determinism, which I do not subscribe to. The truth is that yoyr understanding of the world is largely a fabrication. A string in a maze.
>>24762391Payaso marxista
No such thing as the far left. The far left is normal. It should be like a human being. A normal healthy human is "far left", you add some retard to it you get more and more right wing
>>24762456>Matter is incomprehensibleOk, brb just gonna continue accurately predicting the trajectory of global economics. Good luck with trying to understand matter, let alone money. You’re gonna need it.
>>24762460The far left in practice are bad people larping as good. There's a reason why commies in the US lost the support of the working class. They hate them.
>>24762466They lose support because most of the masses are brainwashed into being slaves for capitalism with music, tv, sports all promoting consumerism and the hustle. This is why a dictatorship of the proletariat is needed to force people to open their eyes
>>24762418This is pointless. Of course profit rate of profit is gonna decrease as easily exploitable resources are exhausted and market niches are filled and satyrated LOL. It's obvious for everyone.
>>24762461>just gonna continue accurately predicting the trajectory of global economicsSomething that Marx was hilariously bad at. Good luck gratifying your ego, though I can't say that you're going to need it.
>>24762469Kek
>>24762466>commies>most richest powerful capitalist empire in human history where even the most retarded impoverished nigger enjoys housing, food, and a standard of living much higher than in developing countriesThere are no commies in America. You are so brainwashed and delusional you think Sanders is a communist for trying to cap healthcare insurance premiums for your own sick and elderly.
>>24762469The irony being that marxists have to advocate for people to support their revolution and they do this by appealing to people's desire for pleasure and comfort as well as a bit of meaning and catharsis for the angsty teens who wouldn't mind knowing what it's like to murder someone.
>>24762445lmao. marxists are convinced they're so intelligent, but they can't convince the working class to support them. it isn't because they're dumb, it's because they see through the marxist's lies. the average marxist today despises the working class. they have more sympathy for a shithead criminal then a working class victim. they love destroying and stealing. when you destroy and steal something someone worked hard for they get mad. marxists think having anything is bad. a guy who worked for years to acquire tools and a work truck is bad and it's okay to fuck with his livelihood. there's a reason why most marxists are stupid college students or professors.
>>24762471>It's obvious for everyone.This dunce here >>24762473 denies it altogether. Why do capitalists hate statistics?
>>24762478You’re describing a liberal Democrat not a Marxist
>>24762469you're just as equally retarded as the guy you're replying to. the fuck does "brainwashed" mean? it's a completely non dialectical approach to the matter at question. read "settlers" by j. sakai, he explains the whole amerikan "communist" movement.
>>24762469Commies hate the working class. Commies are just thieves pretending to be revolutionaries. They make the lives of people who work hard for a living harder. Commie thought condenses down to having anything more than me is bad and i'm good for stealing from you or destroying your property. Commies have zero sympathy for working class people. They don't care when they have to suffer from anarchist criminals. Most communist activists are pussy rich kids who never had to work hard for anything or criminal low lives. That's why they have zero problem fucking with working class people. Commies do a lot of the leg work for capitalists.
>>24762478Yeah man I really want to steal a hammer from a random guy's truck. Lenin is telling me to steal a hammer right now
>>24762488Communists make their lives harder? Lol. Definitely not the capitalists who make marginal increases in wage which is completely decimated by inflation and profits that go to the ruling class
>>24762488It's almost as if commies weren't working class people, but medium to upper-class people who only got access to the concept of communism thanks to capitalism and that feel bad because poor people exist but don't actually do anything to help them other than support communism on the internet.
>>24762485 Man, Kantbot is such a retard
>>24761689American ideology is so fucking cringe, holy shit
>>24762485>Commie>Twitter for iPhoneEverytime.
>>24762444>And why people flee those countries and not the other way around?Cuz they are sanctioned, retard. Do you think that just means that there is no more McDonald's and Burger King? When supply chains break, it means social order is brought to the edge of collapse because we live in a global economy; if you decide that a country suddenly isn't allowed to participate anymore, that was almost like a death sentence a couple of years ago. Now things have changed tho. US sanctions have lost of their power. The DPRK is a good example of that; for decades, they have had thousands of people yearly flee over to South Korea. Now that US sanctions are becoming more and more irrelevant and the financial situation is improving, the number of people fleeing the country has gone to almost zero, so yeah kill yourself
>>24761689RIGHT WING BASICShttp://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1pi20Rr9_BxBbMIfcZUTTGslfZTifEiCmgoogle drive easy to use interfacedownload the whole blob or pick and choose
>>24762488>if you don't allow zogged out billionaires to accumulate money to the point where society is only made up of the poor and rich, you're the real capitalist!?ahahaha these zogbots are so raped
books don't radicalize people. people seek out to radicalize themselves and others, and books were often an important step in that. not so much anymore.
>>24761689books are vehicles of information. the information can change a person's perpective
>>24762551I'm Venezuelan and moved to the US. Sanctions made exactly 0 difference for the average person. Really they only had an impact on government officials with American bank accounts loaded with millions of dollars, for everyone else it was just another tuesday since the country was already neck deep in the shitter before sanctions
>>24763059>bro I'm totally a Venezuelanlisten mutt I appreciate the attempt, but you do realize that AFTER the sanctions were put on Venezuela, the mass refugee crisis occurred? That we have documented reports of supermarkets being completely empty, and that even a retard should realize if the main export product of a country is being sanctioned, that this would obviously have big ramifications for its economy kekAlso, Venezuela was glaze to hell and back, because their economy did so well before, so yeah once again kill yourself
>>24761689>Being anti-war is a "problem" to conservativesBloodthirsty psychopaths.
>>24763474Just go back to plebbit. You are shitting up the board.
>>24763753>1st step: retard has no arguments anymore>2nd step: bring up reddit in the year 2025sigh
>>24761689>I lost a couple of friends to Qanon. The answer is no, no one book can radicalize anyone, it's a start but radicalization needs constant echo chamber reinforcement to keep up the worldview of extremism needed by the radical to constantly reinforce their belief system.
>>24761702/thread
James Joyce made me do it...
>>24761689Not those
>>24762471most would rather not think about what would happen after that and if they did they'd not want to live to see it
>>24762369Books on the extreme right or left have nothing to do with radicalizing anyone. That would in fact be the CIA, Mossad, and Russian & Chinese disinfo farms, along with good ol' ideological possession via cultural Marxism. It's all a product of propaganda and the powers that be's power plays against each other.
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>>24763753Gusano sob stories are redditslop sir.
>>24761702Probably not, actually. These people aren’t reading Lenin and Marx. They’re reading slop
>>24762391How’d you read all that and still get it wrong. Marx explicitly said violent revolution was necessary. Lenin affirmed this. You could look at the revolution as the method by which history removes capitalism but the two agreed that it was required. The whole thing is utter nonsense though
>>24764618No one who has serious influence anymore is a Marxist in any real sense.
>>24762551>Now that US sanctions are becoming more and more irrelevant and the financial situation is improving, the number of people fleeing the country has gone to almost zeroTo be fair, North Korea also greatly increased their border security
>>24761689Yeah look at all the Communists that haven’t even read Marx, the Christian pastors that haven’t read the Bible, and the Jewish supremacists that haven’t read the Talmud
>>24761689Yes because there's never really been a good argument for government existing beyond a army and police force so we don't get raped by other governments. Really liberal democracy is only popular because it keeps different ideological factions fighting for control of the government instead of fighting each other and because changing to a new system would be extremely destructive. Idk if that makes sense I'm super tired lol.
Hello fellow Venezuelans, we sure do hate reddit don't we? It's almost as bad as communism. When you think about it US sanctions are BASED and actually what's causing the refugee crisis. is CRINGE tranmy leftists. When I swam to this country on nothing more than an old wooden door like that scene in Titanic I had witnessed my entire village being slaughtered by radical transsexuals palestinian guerrillas. As my abulita was mercilessly cut down with a machete she made me promise two things: that I would go to America and make a new life for myself in the land of capitalism, and that I would donate a part of my wealth every year to help our greatest alley Israel perform the necessary blood sacrifices to summon the antichrist. After years of hard work I managed to work my way up the ranks from Walmart greeter to Walmart regional manager and eventually opened my own Walmart franchiseed SuperStore in my new Florida hometown. It was hard work and sacrifice, but I am living proof that the American dream is real. When I think about how hard my life was under the oppressive thumb of communism, how I watched my own family members toil for days in forced labour camps before eventually having their organs harvested and being turbed into soap by the brutal prison commisars, it brings a tear to my eye to know how far I have come and how it would never have been possible without capitalism america freedom. Anyways usually I think books are onions but lately I've been reading this Carl Jung fellow. He's kind of obscure, but if you're a young man struggling with politics you should read him.
>>24761689what would the right-wing version of this look like?
>>24765321It has the same books and the same type of menopausal women behind it.
>>24761689I heard Johnny Got His Gun is good if harrowing
>>24763509Depends on the type
>>24761689>Can books radicalize people?Radicalization isn't real in the sense that there will never be revolution. the "radicalization" they provide to the reader is only skin deep and can only ever be that deep because they will not, and cannot, change anything about the world.A "communist", a "nazi", a "anarchist", a "revolutionary" all pay their taxes and kneel.
>>24765268I don't know what's sadder, that you genuinely spent time of your life that you are never going to get back typing this or that you used AI to make it for you. Or even worse, that you are not even creative enough and just copied it from someone else.
Christian nationalism is such a crude joke. So you‘d deport jesus because he’s from the levant. Bravo ameriga
>>24761842Well it'd just be fox News, Twitter, Facebook and tiktok. Americans and rightwing people don't read.
>Johnny Got His Gun>Pro-ViolenceIs this pic real?
>>24761689>1984>anti-conservative>pro-violence>pro-antifaUWOTM8There is not a single mention of conservatism in the book because it had been completely erased. Not only from Oceania but also from the planet, as both Eurasia and Eastasia are communist dictatorships.How is it pro-violence if the protagonist is too much of a faggot to do absolutely ANYTHING at any point? Even when he was being tortured, he did not grow a pair of balls to at least try to fight; he just submitted.And how is this shit antifa? Because communism won and turned the world into a proletarian paradise???I don't know any other book from the list, but if the person who made this crap fails to acknowledge that 1984 is the biggest anti-communism propaganda ever written, then he must be brain dead.
>>24766324Orwell himself was a socialist you dumbass
>>24766364So what? Even I was a member of my country's communist party before realising it was stupid and turning to fascism.
>>24761765Communists claim they are moral and hate christianity while enjoying the fruits of Christian morality. its hypocritical, ironically and ignorantly narcissistic.
>reads book>shreds a Van Halen solo on my Tele>hops on my skateboard>drops 15 feet into a half pipe>does a flip
