Looking back, this book from high school really was just Jew slop made to antagonize white Christians
holy fucking shit i love buzzwords
>>24762117I loved the book but then I empathised with the blond chad that kept stealing fatties conch and eventually brained him
>>24762117>I am so butthurt they made me read a book also I have edgy internet opinions on the nose peoplesounds like you are still in highschool and you just want us to do your assignment. Fuck off.
>>24762117christians are such snowflakes holy shit
>>24762117Is the devil not waiting, just outside of society, to seize our best intentions and justifications?
>>24762117Yea, it absolutely was. Turns out literally every book we were asked to read was propaganda of some sort or another.
Every single book teachers did a read along for in school was just... the absolute worst shit. Tangerine, Hatchet, The Outsiders, Ender's Game, Lord of the Flies... Absolutely abysmal shit. I hated Childhoods End when I had to read it for class but I grew to appreciate it once I read it myself for pleasure though. That's the only instance of that happening.
>>24762146Jack Merridew, the sigma chad hunter, had red hair. He doesn't brain Piggy either, Piggy gets blasted by the boulder that Jack's crony, Roger, releases from Castle Bro. Ralph, the book's protagonist, had blonde hair. Sucks to your conch!I also enjoyed the book and empathize with Jack's struggle to hold onto power, even though his goals are overall poor and, short-sighted.
Book is a fun read.
>>24763004it's only fun until it reveals its intentions
>>24762117You never read it.
>>24762117It was based on a real event, but the boys stranded on the island cooperated and had a highly functional community. The author changed it into "mankind bad" slop.
>>24762723>Hating Ender's Game.>Hating Childhood's End.You are literally retarded. Even if they were school assigned, you're just a retard.
>>24763503the author was jewish
>>24763506He literally said he came around to liking Childhoods End? But I agree about Ender's Game though, it's fucking shit.
>>24763517I know he said he came around to it, I'm still judging him for hating it initially for being a school assignment.If you think Ender's Game is shit, you're also a retard. I'm not surprised, you seem to be unable to read.
>>24763528>Say YA sloppa is shit>Manchild freaks the fuck out Many such cases.
>>24763537*yawn*Try harder.
>>24763540>*yawn*Go back, redditkike
>>24763545>redditkikeI've never been.Emoting in text long predates that website, child.
>>24762723>HatchetFirst two books are awesome, dude. The author knew his shit, put it in and so you just have an excellent little collection about survival.
>>24763590Nah
>>24762117This book meant a lot to me at the time I read it in middle school because I’m gay, and it was around that time when my friends, who I’d had my entire life, suddenly turned on me and decided they hated me, even though nothing about me had changed. Like they were playing a game I didn’t know, or following an energy I couldn’t see or understand. Just something about being an outsider and stuck with people who you can tell feel a disdain for you that you haven’t even begun to understand, and you’re trapped with them. Lucky Ralph got saved, and I got out of there too.
>>24762706>everything that makes an ought claim is propagandaif you want pure aesthetics go stare at a wall
>>24763503>mankind badNot mankind. Only the english.
>>24762117>Jew slopwe really just making conclusions with no premise these days?
>>24763629Die.
>>24762117>source?>"I have none"great
>>24763846The book itself?Idiot
>>24763866>The book itself?>Idiotmake a claim then, circular reasoning belongs in circle jerks.
>>24763866Are you retarded? Do you think that is how sourcing works? Give me quotes that support your claims, nigger
>>24763875>>24763876The claim is that the book is antagonistic towards white christiansthe moral of the story is that white christians, instead of being cooperative and generally good people, are actually savages
/lit/ - Illiteracy General
>>24763899Where is this Christian thing coming from? Why would you assume it's about them, and not about a broader point about how fragile society is, when there is no authority to enforce the rule of law, that in a situation like that, individual violence takes over, that might makes right. So, if anything, the book's message would be more against the idea of Anarchism than anything else
>>24763899Why do you think that's a claim about white christians specifically?
>>24762117You're too poor to identify with rich British boarding school lads
>>24763946>>24763950Oh Gee anons. Idk. It might have something to do with it being a book about English schoolboys, England being a predominantly Christian nation at the time the book was written, an maybe something to do with Jack Merridrew, leader of a troupe of choir boys becoming the most savage character in the story. I'm just going to assume you're trolling and are not actually illiterate.
>>24763977>It might have something to do with it being a book about English schoolboys, England being a predominantly Christian nation at the time the book was writtenYour claim is dogshit. If anything it is the opposite, society, hierarchy and the family unit imposing morality on the primitives of the jungle is what is stopping this. That English children didn't create a utopia when marooned in this story does not imply a real world plot to spiritually degrade the culture.Any bongs want to weigh in? As a Yank maybe this means something different on your island.
>>24762120>>24762161>>24762162>>24763836>>24763846The author is literally jewish.
>>24764089Anon... Are you capable of abstract thinking?
>>24764104you are confusing him with famous screenwriter William Goldman.
>>24764137William Golding was jewish.
>>24764138He was Cornish, Source for being Jewish?Son of Alec Golding, a science master at Marlborough Grammar School (1905 to retirement), and Mildred, née Curnoe,[4] William Golding was born at his maternal grandmother's house, 47 Mount Wise, Newquay,[5] Cornwall.[6] The house was known as Karenza, the Cornish word for love, and he spent many childhood holidays there.[7] The Golding family lived at 29, The Green, Marlborough, Wiltshire, Golding and his elder brother Joseph attending the school at which their father taught.[8] Golding's mother was a campaigner for female suffrage; she was Cornish and was considered by her son "a superstitious Celt", who used to tell him old Cornish ghost stories from her own childhood.[9]
>>24764177Well it wasn't Wikipedia.In fact, I think I might have been taught that he was Jewish in school.
>>24764104And you are literally an annoying flaming fucking faggot, your point being?
>>24764419NTABut the book is subversive "whites bad" bullshitWhether Golding was actually Jewish or not, it's a questionable book, and a questionable message, to force high school students in the western world to read.
>>24762117>>24764473Fucking parade of imbeciles here.Writer was a deeply religious man who fought in a war for his country and struggled to get the first draft of the book past the publishers because they considered it overtly Christian propoganda. They literally edited it down to make it less preachy. He showed precisely fuck all interest in racial politics of any kind - I'm not sure there's even a single non-white character in all of Golding - and these morons who claim to have studied it in school apparently didn't even get as far as googling the author or reading a fucking wikipedia, because they can only understand it through the blinkers of their /pol/ ridden 21st century media.Your dismissals only prove your lack of knowledge or basic curiosity.
>>24764940Nice sourced claims there. Anyway I have the book on my shelf, read it several times, and have come to consider it subversive trash. none of what you've just claimed necessitates he wasn't jewish
It really doesn't matter what the specifics are of Lord of the Flies' origin. The fact remains, it's a pessimistic subversive book. It's is more than questionable to have it as required reading in western schools, and its message is unwelcome.
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