Are there any indigenous animals other than the worms on Arrakis? What do worms eat that they can be so huge?
>>24766385Nocturnal Mouse called Mau'dib
But what do they eat
>>24766402Sand trout, which is what dead worms becomes
>>24766408How do they farm enough sand trout for the whole population and where and how do they move the trout from the sand to the peoples mouths and what preparation does the trout need. How do they have proper nutrition from one livestock. This world falls apart very quickly.
>>24766385>What do worms eat that they can be so huge?The standard American diet.
>>24766408That's impossible due to thermodynamics. If you eat the dead you get diminishing returns on how many calories you can get because nothing is ever 100% efficient. You will lose after a while.
>>24766413The worms eat the sand trout., not the people, and a drowned sand trout coughs up bile which is the water of life.
>>24766419Next you'll be telling me that spinning the earth in the opposite direction doesn't rewrite history.
>>24766425How tf thr eople eats
>>24766425>The worms eat the sand troutWhat do the sand grout eat? Where's the bottom trophic level on Arrakis if there is no flora?>>24766435See above. At least on Earth you need a constant and ample amount of energy from the Sun to have a working ecosystem. Everything comes from the Sun (except for weird ass tube worms that eat lava)
>>24766436Whatever they can but usually it's laden with spice which enhances and sustains their physiology.
>>24766385they eat sand. are you dumb?
>>24766444Sand has no nutritional value that I'm aware of.
>>24766435he didn't spin the earth, he just moved faster than the speed of light, arriving before he leaves. The Earth rotating backwards is a visual representation of time going backwards like the rocks going up and things un-destroying.
>>24766442Fucking bullshit copout may as well have written a romantasy novel
>>24766440Sand trout eats the spice and I believe other sand trout but its been a Few decades since I read it so cant be sure.>>24766440Dune is a magical place.
>>24766451I thought the worms made the spice.
>>24766446He rewrote, changed history. >>24766449Dune is as fantastical as three theories humans believe in, the big bang, self creation and evolution. All three requires leaps in logic and the more than occasional shark jump to even retaim the slimmest of believability.
>>24766453The big ones make the spice.
>>24766461>shark jumpWhat's a shark jump?
>>24766446>he just moved faster than the speed of light
>>24766473Not what this faggot thinks: >>24766461
>>24766473>>24766486The big bang states that a meson sized singularity self created from nowhere for non reasons possessing several Universal Masses in an area smaller than a particle and expanded 32 trillion times faster than light.Demonstrate that scientifically, with observation and test.
There's sand plankton and sand trout
>>24766408Aren’t they also larval worms?
>>24766445Yeah but what if the worm has a stomach that heats up the sand and when the sand melts and emitts light the worm has photosystems that absorb the light just like a plant. Bet you didn’t think of that one
>>24766461Im going to assume this is bait but if it’s not i suggest you read on the miller urey experiment and also take a college level generics course
>>24766752I was thinking that very hot sand might do something.
>>24766385Did you read the fucking book? The desert is full of wildlife, but notably vultures and the hopping rat muad'dib. Worms eat anything that moves, as well as a shitload of spice and sand and rocks, but they also have elaborate internal chemical-bacterial ecosystems that do most of their energy production, produces all the oxygen on the planet and produces the basically-magical spice. It's not exactly hard sci-fi, but he's put in some effort on the planetary ecology. It's half the point of the book.
>>24766440Worms eat sand trout, other worms and basically anything that moves.
>>24766385did you miss the stuff about muad'dib?
>>24766777>Did you read the fucking book?Thanks Mr. Negative.
>>24766388What do Mau'dib eat
Come to think of it, these guys spend all their time sitting around drinking their own shitty piss water. That's nasty.
>>24766867You know that tap water is largely recirculated, right? You're drinking poop water.
>>24766425>>24766435And next he'll tell us you can't trip space acid so hard you see the future and learn to talk to all your ancestors or even be possessed by them.
>>24766385A bunch of hares and vulture-like birds
>>24767800Who the hell drinks tap water?
>>24769682Tap water here is fantastic. They actually (controversially) pump water for bottled water from where we get our tap water here.
>>24766867Shit water too. Don't the suits they wear also filter shit?
>>24769682people in countries with modern infrastructure, ramesh
Do worms eat sand?
>>24766385Apparently nobody ITT has actually read the book in question.Many such cases on /lit/.
>>24770776>Ameriturd swallows ameripoop tap water like he does cum
>>24766777>as well as a shitload of spiceNo, spice is a shitload from a worm.
>>24766385It's largely cannibalistic. I'm guessing a lot of bacteria and micro-organisms are the ultimate source of "outside" nutrition.It's weird and not fully fleshed out.Just remember, Dune is a Space Opera.
>>24771182they especially haven't read the appendices in Dunethis place is such a fucking shithole now
Marge, i'm confused.What does "faggot" mean in this context ?
>>24771606>read the appendices in Dunelol wut. turbo-nerd alert
>>24772005i'm having a hard time picturing a luminous gray original poster
1984 > 2001 Simple as
>>24766413What are the tax policies of the sand worms?
>>24766385and what is their tax policy
>>24774128Have you seen the extended version? It's free on youtube and 3 hours long.
>>24766408>>24766402Sand Plankton
>>24766435So you admit it's stupid then lol
What makes the spice if not the worms?
>>24774834And it's even shabbier and more incoherent than the orginial. Hooray.
>>24775011It's great take that back.
Kek
>>24766385Arrakis is a desert and it has a desert climate, meaning that there are shrubs, insects, rodents, lizards, mice, etc. Hares are mentioned, meaning there are bunnies on Dune. Birds are hunted, apparently. The Fremen grow some kind of roott vegetable called tabaroot which they grind into flour and make bread out of. Apparently donkeys can survive there so there must be shrubbage of some variety.I think a takeaway here is that Arrakis isn't actually THAT horrible. People can live there if they have technology to cover some of the gaps. Of course in reality the stillsuits would just kill you faster because perspiration is how you avoid boiling to death and by capturing it all you're preventing yourself from cooling off--but maybe they have some kind of heat pump system in the suits powered by bullshit but it's more likely Herbert just didn't think it all the way through.
>>24774128Ian McNeice was the single best performance in any Dune media across the entirety of the property's history. Nobody has done, or will do, or probably could do Baron Vladimir Harkonnen better than the Rome Advertisement guy.True Blood, for True Harkonnens.
>>24777073>Arrakis isn't actually THAT horriblethis idea was a subplot, the barony was supposed to think that the deep desert was impossible to live in. the people living in the deep desert paid the people that would show that the deep desert is livable to not show that it was livable (the guild weather monitor people, iirc)the duke before he even arrived said that there are probably people living out there and that he will need their help to carry out his plan >perspirationi thought about this as well and while its a big issue not being able to sweat the books do specifically mention there being several layers to the stillsuit and that the sweat does indeed evaporate to cool the skin, if you have the pdf version im pretty sure the exact line was "...perspiration passes through it, having cooled the body..." so you can search for it. obviously though that just moves the issue to how do you condense the vapour. maybe it addresses this but i dont remember
>>24777087>guild weather monitor peopleim pretty sure it was actually the guild weather control. if you have the pdf im pretty sure that it says "dreadful high price". later when paul ascends he realises what happens while hes still in the tent
>>24766385Sand plankton
>>24777077>Could do better What about Brian Blessed?
>>24777175Okay fair, maybe. But it's still a maybe, McNeice was really, really fucking good. Like the way he occasionally slips into rhyme was just so perfect, felt 100% Vlad.
>>24775011based
>>24766425>a drowned sand trout coughs up bile which is the water of life.It's a poison that gets converted into the water of life by a reverend mother.
IF YOU WALK WITHOUT RHYTHM YOU WON'T ATTRACT THE WORM
>>24766419I'm 100% efficient but I'm built different
