This might be the most extreme and dangerous book I've ever read. Fucking devastating.
why?
>>24770756Mainländer's philosophy is the most terminally online blackpilled shit ever. The entire system is built on the idea that God literally got tired of existing and offed himself, and the universe is just his decomposing corpse. This means everything from a rock to you has a deep unconscious will to death and is on a cosmic suicide mission to return to the sweet bliss of nothingness. It's an entire worldview designed to prove that non-existence is the only logical win.
>>24771391And why should we believe anything about it? What arguments does Mainlander have for his view? Or is it just Kraut whining?
>>24771399>What arguments does Mainlander have for his view?For that I recommend you to read the book, he presents his arguments much better than I could in this post.
And yet nietzsche read it and he said yes to life. Cioran read it and didnt kill himself despite being extremely pessimistic. I read it and i disagree with his conclusion of nonexistent is better than existence.
>>24771399Exhibit A: Life sucks
>>24771391From our modern perspective, what could the universe's "mission" be?If it had one, it would be expressed as a universal trend.And modern science tells us this trend is "increasing complexity."What that means is "more and deeper non-trivial relationships."Meaningfulness and significance of elements to each other.This trend is expressed in human experience as love and beauty.The universe seems to be on an endless quest to enrich itself, to shimmer every more brightly with beauty and liveliness, by eternally grasping beyond the immediacy of what it is towards possibilities of what it could become.
>>24771399Unlike all other famous pessimists (Schopenhauer, Cioran etc.) he actually killed himself. >>24771504The Wikipedia article for Mainländer claims that Nietzsche turned against Schopenhauer after reading "The Philosophy of Redemption" which is slightly amusing if true.
>>24771391Well clearly what he calls god is not god.
>>24771547> From our modern perspective, what could the universe's "mission" be?The purpose is to be like god. The purpose is for gods creation to become like god. Like a child developing in the womb and then growing up to be like it’s parent.
>>24771665>Unlike all other famous pessimists (Schopenhauer, Cioran etc.) he actually killed himself.Four members of his family committed suicide, it was probably genetic since it ran in his family.
It's the atheist blackpill and the culmination of atheistic thought.>God is dead.>Everything is random/meaningless.>Biogenesis was a random accident.>The Earth is being raped.>The future is hopeless.>Life is suffering.>The science suggests you are just a Boltzmann Brain.>Your death means nothing.
>>24770667The true endpoint of Abrahamic religion. First it's the absurdity of pic related, then pure antinatalism and nihilism. We should applaud Mainländer for his honesty. He's the ultimate Christian after all
>>24771870Although your apparent intent is an insult or criticism, or to indicate the self-defeating character of such a worldview, your intent is happily overshadowed by the truth itself. The truth is the controlling consideration, and it is the truth of the meaningless of things which defeats your apparent objection.
>>24771528Counterpoint: I imagine Sisyphus happy.
His story is a familiar one. Hating life leads to communism leads to suicide
>>24771391That's pretty basic
>>24770667His autobiography is so based>rich parents bought his conscription off>demanded to fight anyway because he felt embarrassed by his privilege>wrote part of his magnum opus in the trenches>killed himself after it published
>>24771706Stop injecting your pedophilic thoughts into metaphysics.
>>24771706And then what?for what purpose?Trying to cover up your nihilism by positing more stuff.
>>24772359>>>demanded to fight anyway because he felt embarrassed by his privilege>>wrote part of his magnum opus in the trenchesFucking metal
>>24771391>non-existenceWhy this is bad thing again?You are either some overzealous idealistic faggot or subhuman slave to selfpreservation instinct.
>>24771870>>Everything is meaningless.It is.>>The Earth is being raped.Again, it is.>>The future is hopeless.And it isn't?>>Life is suffering.Absolutely.
Not to be born is best. But once you're born, that's an unsolvable puzzle.
>>24772482>>24772483Have you tried having fun yet?
>>24772497I have fun all the time but then what.
>>24772499Fall in love with natural beauty, and study science to deepen its beauty with the light of understanding. Explore art, the medium doesn't matter, the experimental joy and wonder does. You are the universe creating with itself, but as "the universe" is just another way of saying "all of us," we are a way to create with each other.Imagine this vibe as your baseline:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWnA4XLrMWAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxVVm75k_8QThe more you seek beauty in the world, the more beautiful it becomes.
>>24772478Why are you still alive then?
>nihilist huh?>why haven't you kys then
>>24772359Wittgenstein alternate ending
>>24771391>terminally online>19th centuryMaybe the "terminally online" blackpillers have a point if old boy from the pre-compter era had the same ideas.
>>24771391This is retarded because it initial premise is retarded, only faggots that are already depressed would be impacted by this.
>>24771665>Unlike all other famous pessimists (Schopenhauer, Cioran etc.) he actually killed himself.And that is supposed to prove anything? It just proves he was suicidal, and that Schopenhauer and Cioran weren’t, and they also saw suicide as ultimately futile. Mainlander was a sick man who tried to rationalize his depression and compulsions into a very literary philosophy, if he was alive today he would a tranny.
>>24771870Everything you listed is correct though
>>24772359and then his sister who was supposed to write a memoir of him killed herself too
>>24771391comfy af but if the author really entertained those notions he would never have written or published so it just comes across as purely cynical hypocrisy
>>24772826Suicide is not a guarantee of non-existence.
>>24773001it follows that god created us to eventually invent time-travel so that we can go back into the past to prevent the advent of godwhich makes a lot more sense than anything else I've ever heard of
>>24771391>terminally online blackpilled shit everStop talking like a retard
/lit/'s intellectual capabilities have fallen quiet a bit
>>24771391>non-existence is the only logical win.Its not like you can escape it.
>>24772359Ah yes the trenches of 1874-5
