Well /lit/, is he right?
>>24771255I didn't read it. Not going to validate the effortpost that you feel didn't get enough attention when you first made it.
>>24771255didn't read, fuck you
Didn't read, no one cares about some bullshit someone is writing about some nonsense word salad ideas.
I honestly agree. Amerimutts cannot comprehend art for a purpose beyond making money. It's why so many of them cling to AI generated slop, as they're not interested in the medium, only to make money.
I like how the thread proves the point of that poster.
I can’t read
>>24771255It’s so true. I was reading the history of Appalachia and so much conflict was driven by land speculators seeking out more and more land. It was the bitcoin of their day. Americans literally only care about money and we worship those who have it. Even better when it gets wrapped around Christ or Ben Franklin talks about productivity or work ethic. America is what happens when you take religous freaks and criminals ship them halfway around the world and let them genocide the natives and import slaves and eventually subjugate the rest of the world.
>>24771255He is right about everything. Americans were a mistake. An abomination.
Hey kiddo, Americans are the reason why you're not in a Nazi totalitarian hellscape or a Communist shithole right now. Be thankful we still police the whole fucking Earth you ungrateful little shits.
>>24771291>>24771315>>24771316>>24771639AI posts
>>24771255I admit the term "American literature" has an unusual sound to it. It exists, but I wouldn't consider it literature like I do with the rest of the rest of the world. It's like saying something such as "concrete masterpiece". It could technically be a thing, but the two words have two completely opposite implications, almost as if they're oxymoron.
>>24771982Wouldn’t that be nice?
>>24771971Lmao, america is becoming the totalitarian shithole. Remember, pay your taxes so you can bail out Argentina!
>>24771971The United States has been a shitty hegemon and a poor ruler of the West. The last 80 years is enormous proof that Americans are great warriors but they're poor monarchs. The West has basically collapsed under America's control, which is proof of their inadequacy.The world and the West was better off when the British ran it. Or, well, the British and the French.
>>24773090Although I agree with your post (besides the great warrior part since Americans lost most of the wars they were the main participant in) you posted a k-on image which makes me think that you are a latinx so you are wrong by default.
>>24771255>the chinese don't do thisgo to a northeast chinese ski slope and tell me how "happy" them seembeing uptight and money focused in not a uniquely American thing>>24771722again... all of history is people wanting more land
>>24771255Just goes to show that foreigners don't understand America or Americans at all. They just make stuff up and rationalize it under "well it's America, and the news told me this once, so..."Ancient people used to draw sea monsters on maps where America is. Even now, you can tell it's all cartoon-fairyland to them. Any behavior they or their countrymen possess is rationalized as good and right, while that same behavior when seen in America or by Americans is met with finger-wagging scorn.The poster in OP's pic whining about Americans deriding "fun" is the same kind of person who freaks out over the concept of American football. The amount of times I've seen foreigners shake their heads and overanalyze anything American for the sake of finding something to get upset at, only to immediately turn around and go "why Americans so mean :( " whenever someone takes issue with whatever crazy shit happens in their country is unbelievable.The America that pops into the minds of foreigners doesn't exist. It's a fantasy sold to them that allows them to ignore their domestic issues. Any foreigner who claims to understand anything about America is proving that the people of wherever they're from are just liars. And they probably won't even realize it, won't ever consider it, will scream "no you evil Americans just don't understand! Propaganda!" because they're the best at lying to themselves.It's amazing how the people who whinge the most about Americans always act the most like the harmful American stereotype. Literally, "Let me tell you about your country." Bunch of dishonest hypocrites.
>>24771255Not a real dichotomy honestly. As someone who lives in the heartland and owns books by James, Dewey and Peirce, I think its important to understand that action and thought can coexist separately. Things can be useful but the ordering of use is a mental thing, much like how autistics such as myself order subjects by level of importance, situation, and sentiment that it gives us as subjects. That actually, insists by definition that we have sentience, apart from purely utilitarian conception of right action. I guess James' "Varities Of Religious Experience" touches upon this subjectivity but its sitting on my shelf now, will be reading/looking into it after I complete Berger's "Sacred Canopy"
>>24771333I doubt you've ever encountered or talked to an American in your armpit sized wooden hut fishing village.
>>24773757Not reading all that but I‘m American and hate it more than any non-American could because I have to live in this swamp. I dated a European for a while and when she came to visit, going places would pretty consistently turn into road trip bingo of all the dirty American stereotypes we could confirm. The only things foreigners miss is that they fail to understand just how broken the American mind is to defer to jews (implicitly) and negros (explicitly.)
>>24773783>Not reading all thatThen why pretend like you know what you're talking about, "fellow American"?
>>24773783parroting r/politics tier Reddit libshit talking points is so gay it’s unreal
>>24773785Because you‘re performing the same whine as every other time one of us wants to pretend we‘re not the rot of the Earth.
>>24773790Damn I gotta go to /r/politics if they‘re talking about how fucked up it is that Americans worship jews and niggers
>>24771255Kinda. Iirc many authors have said something similar. Americans are more practical and care more about real world results than Europeans. More empirical and operational rather than rational and ideal. A rightist content creator I respect named Whatifalthist once said that the some of Americas biggest flaws are:1. Inability to make trade off decisions2. Delusionality3. Anti-intellectualism4. Greed5. Lack of self awareness
>>24773792You didn't even read the post, you just followed along until it made you mad then you bitched about America while claiming to be from there. If you consider me pointing that out to be "whining" then you're just out to try to justify your victim complex.
>>24773809>Americans are more practical and care more about real world results than Europeans.Than the French, maybe. The Germans? Depends on the era. A lot of misconceptions stem from the mistake of referring to the mythical "Europeans" as if they're one coherent group. A Russian, an Englishman, a Spaniard, and a Dutchman are about as different culturally and psychologically as a Mongol, a Japanese, a Thai, and an Indian.
I don't blame the amerimutts. As always, it's Perfidious Albions fault. They dumped their mouthbreathing fuckups and zealots off in a rich new land and then couldn't be bothered to properly tard wrangle them. Now the miscegenated mutts have leveled the world beyond repair.
>>24773828>You didn't even read the post,I lied. I really did but wished I hadn‘t because you ranted and cried to no effect.
>>24773839Thanks for admitting you didn't bother to reply in good faith, that's good at least.
I dont see how any of these sweeping generalizations can exist in any rational sense when the USA is comprised of well-established European ethnicities
>>24772361>Phone poster>Can't readWhen I read the post calling all those posts A.I I knew you were Human, because an A.I would never admit to being unable to do a simple thing. >>24771255Anyway, on our topic. I agree with the general premise, but I do disagree with the reasoning. As another poster pointed out, Chinese people definitely can have a profit for profit's sake mentality. But I op makes good points about "earning" culture. I don't know if I'd say Americans are culturally incapable of understanding art, or that the millions of them that exist couldn't produce anything of artistic merit without monetary incentive. After all, America has produced counter cultural movements that seem anti-profit, even if they eventually get twisted into a consumerist thing.My question about the topic though is when did this develop? Because obviously didn't happen when the first Anglo stepped on modern U.S soil. I would argue that the U.S culture was more in line with it's component cultures until the 1900s, where it began to split off radically. Conquering, epxanding, wiping out natives isn't an innately American thing. So to actually discuss this we need to actually find what the foundations for this alleged "American culture" is. Either working back, or forwards from something aligning to the OP OP's idea.Also the cat image is literally named "Pancake cat stare" in English, just in Cyrillic.
>>24771291Fpbp
>>24773809Lemme ask though, what are the deficits of various European countries, because we all know that the place is not the veritable garden of eden the far right likes to pain it as, and I identify with them over the left many times over.
>>24771733>>24773837Little too late for that, Saar. Do not redeem.>>24773790Ikr? The left and right are virtually indistinguishable nowadays. The various claims of base minority worship both sides accuse the United States of doing is rich and ironic coming from them when the basis of their entire shared ideology is basically copying whatever third world barren landscape that two decades ago neither would have ever considered, let alone agreed with. The Iraq war essentially changed that, with every hip elitist claiming that the invasion was unjustified and the support of the invasion was the domain of ignorant Republicans. Moldbug is essentially correct though that the right just copies whatever the left did five or more years prior because Cathedral essentially is unanimously leftist and view right wingers as slow witted and dysgenic and in need of social engineering by their higher IQ brethren. However I'd disagree with his assumptions that "if you can't beat them, join them". Thats where the Khmer Rouge got it right.
>>24771255I think I wrote this while blasted a few years ago.
>>24771291/thread
>>24771255Nietzsche made a similar point.
>>24773809>A rightist content creator I respect named WhatifalthistThat guy's a schizo whose mind was broken by drugs
>>24773080You can't even bail out your father because he got shoving twinkies down his pants at the local 7-11
>>24776809Plenty of more respectable thinkers have also used drugsGonna judge them too?The point here is drugs = what cool people do.
>>24771255That reminds me of one Baudrillard's quote arguing that, to become an american is to live in perpetual present.
>>24771291>>24771315>>24771316Ameriporkers absolutely SEETHING in first few replies KEKAROOOOOOOOOOO
>>24776950I'm not sure why. It's not that unflattering of a description.
>>24777063It may be because, if you read it in a certain way, Anon implied that Americans are money-grubbing philistines.
>>24773090>The last 80 years is enormous proof that Americans are great warriorsLmfao.
>>24771255It would appear that i have made a mistake in thinking /lit/ has good comprehension, given how my thread has devolved into merely hating america to own the 'mutts', or thinking that the OP pic was describing america as money grubbing jews>>24777116he's more so describing americans as having a rather buglike mentality.>>24774381>My question about the topic though is when did this develop?most likely with the rapid growth of americas economy after the 2nd world war.boomers, though known for hedonism, were not a pragmatic people.. the mentality that the OP is describing is something that is more associated with immigrants or the poor (think asian parents who don't want Timmy Chang to study art because it wont bring in the money)there is a bit more to this but i honestly cant focus on writing right now.
>>24776873centralized states did this everywhere, how was baudrillard baffled by this "paradox".
>>24776950well, its odd, you talk like this and then get bent out of shape when we have soldiers on your soil like its some kind of invasion. for the most part we have to because historically you'll chimp out if we don't. that goes from everything from Nazi Germany to any third world shit hole, give or take.
>>24777997seethe about it
>>24776854It wasn't that he used drugs, it's that he became so brainfried that he believed he was a prophet personally guided by both God and the hermetic gods to save the West, combined with him telling his entire embarrassing life story as a means of "proving" his claims. Part of his life story revealed that his mom was a deranged schizo, which he seems to have inherited and unlocked after his trip. It's tragic and I feel bad for the guy basically Syd Barretting himself, but I wouldn't take his opinion all that seriously.
>>24777947>make useless thread>thread turns to dogshit. >shocked that this is so.What did you expect anon. Do better lol
>>24777947>It would appear that i have made a mistake in thinking /lit/ has good comprehensionit's ok anon it happens to many others as well
>>24771291um based?
