>someone restores the /lit/ wiki after Fandom shut it down>site admins update the sticky with the new site>https://lit.trainroll.xyz>no account verification>no captcha>wiki spammed with bot pages>wiki admin deletes>bot spam returns>repeat x100>pajeet porno links on main page>(Deletion log) [Anonymous Admin (807×)]>wiki admin completely locks the wiki down>whole thing is now read-onlyPage creation, file upload, and even login are all disabled. Before the whole thing got locked down you could create pages and accounts with zero verification or captchas, even though Media Wiki supports both of these:https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UserVerificationhttps://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/CAPTCHA(the only form of captcha before was a basic math one, and only subsequent edits to a page, meaning you could create accounts and pages with zero hindrance)The /lit/ wiki is now just a museum. But I'm glad we still have my favourite articles on The Ultimate Guide To Finding The Perfect Couch For Sale In The UK and Welpen Aus Yorkie Zucht: Ein Comprehensiver Leitfaden Für Zukünftige Besitzer. Charts and reading guides are for fags anyway.
>>24772775We can never have nice things.
>>24772775Was funny when I found this book being snuck into the UK/Irish Recommended Reading list. I thought it'd be some random self-published author, but nah, trad pubbed, has reviews in the Guardian and the New York Times. I did not think that paid shills would go so far as to start editing obscure, half-dead wikis, and lol at the file description:>"Bonding is the work of an author whose importance already feels assured" (the Observer)
>>24772775The charts are in the mega anyway.
>>24773340Sure, and they're on the still-accessible wiki too, but the problems is that just like the now-locked-down wiki it's only the maintainer who can add files to it. With the Mega folder maybe the maintainer floats around making additions, but eventually he won't, and he can't catch everything. The wiki, meanwhile, (under normal conditions) allows user submissions and can have multiple admins and pass the torch if one person doesn't want to maintain it. There are dead links to previously-shared folders floating in /lit/'s archive, or un-maintained folders, and stuff easily gets lost if you rely on methods like that. Providers will also go down too.The wiki can and does also contain information not suited to charts. It's far more versatile.
>>24773476Sounds like someone got greedy
>>24773518I don't get your point. As far as I can tell, the wiki admin took on and then abandoned what's supposed to be a public resource for /lit/, all without implementing simple measures to prevent that. That's lame.
>>24773476Almost anytime the mega is mentioned, it's me, the maintainer doing it. I'm a bit disappointed you didn't know the mega allows user submissions and others can and have been added to change stuff on it. It's easy to pass the torch. I can't catch everything and don't try to. Yes, the wiki is more versatile.
>>24773476Stuff gets lost regardless, at least in terms of public accessibility, regardless of the method or provider.
>>24773567>I'm a bit disappointed you didn't know the mega allows user submissions and others can and have been added to change stuff on it.You could lead with that. Speaking generally in terms of file share versatility, those are features I only know of Mega allowing, and ones that have to be turned on. It's also non-obvious to most users because it isn't a common feature; I can see your included text files pointing to the upload link, but that's buried, and, again, non-obvious. Maybe you maintain yours well, but relying on shared folders generally isn't a good permanent solution, and most people won't do as much upkeep as you.>It's easy to pass the torch.If you account gets nuked, I don't imagine that folder remains. I don't figure most file shares die as planned events, as they're generally considered passive, so passing the torch could still be problematic; someone could re-upload, but would all of the old links suddenly die? I don't imagine you can maintain the link between accounts.The only place I see your folder occuring is as the parent folder of the sci-fi general. That's not an obvious place, whereas the wiki is in the pinned thread and prominent (even if mostly ignored). An obscured Mega link is not a replacement for what is nominally /lit/'s official wiki.All of the features you're mentioning are non-obvious, the link location itself is non-obvious and unofficial, and it still relies entirely on you organisationally. And the versatility is important.Also, going through your folder, are all of the charts supposed to be in Charts and Culture > zBoards > lit - literature? Is your collection actually complete relative to the wiki's? The wiki contains far more files than I see in your /lit/ folder.
>>24773602Yes, but administration can at least be passed off so that the material doesn't freeze in time because one person stops maintaining it. If however it's being hosted becomes a problem then it'd be a challenge (as happened with Fandom deciding to throw the original out), but I'd consider a standalone website to be more reliable for this purpose than third-party file-sharing links. I'm not arguing against backups---obviously they're important to keep in many forms---just saying that /lit/'s wiki being locked down is a bad thing and unnecessary.A folder of charts is not a replacement for a standalone wiki, not in fundamental capacity for reliability, nor in versatility.
>>24773640>>24773640Buried? It's on the top level. If you know a way to make it more obvious, let me know.The mega is at the bottom of the charts page on the wiki and has been since 2019. I have no control over what's in the pinned thread. Obviously if it's taken down there's no link to the new place, it's the same for the wiki. Surely there are many who don't know it's on a new location because there's no link.I don't want it to rely on me, but it's difficult to find anyone willing to help. That's how it goes. Lots of complaining, not much doing. You could make a mirror of the wiki and do all things you want it to do. No, that charts are in the Books folder. The zboards are just for random stuff related to the boards.
>>24773654Whether administration can be passed off is irrelevant if the administrator has no intent to do so. If that were the case, you wouldn't have have made this thread. You don't even know if the admin comes to 4chan any longer, let alone would see this thread.
