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nigga is talking about heaven and hell. I thought Buddhism was proto atheism
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>>24773136
Buddhism believes in those things without being a "theistic" religion
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>>24773136
>nigga is talking about heaven and hel
They put all kinds of stuff into his mouth. He was an atheist and did not believe in heaven or hell or any superstitious nonsense.
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>>24773191
>He was an atheist and did not believe in heaven or hell or any superstitious nonsense.
get a load of this faggot

>everything that is fake and added by other people in the Pali Canon that happens to conflict with my modern physicalism was convienently added by other people depiste Buddha's teachings being based on the whole idea of ending the cycle of rebirth
kys
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>>24773136
every single religion is telling you to get a grip on yourself or else you will be damned. it ain't complicated.
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>>24773203
You need more Buddha in your heart, fren
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>>24773136
wholesome intentions lead to wholesome states
unwholesome intentions lead to unwholesome states

What is kamma?
>intentional actions in thought, word, and deed
>the results of intentional actions—past or present—which are shaped by the quality of the intention behind those actions

How do actions determine results?
>Skillful intentional acts—those that would lead to no harm for yourself or anyone else—tend toward pleasant results.
>Unskillful intentional acts—those that would lead to harm for yourself or others, or both—tend toward painful results

Kamma is like a seed.
When you plant a bitter melon seed, it’ll tend to produce a bitter melon vine.
When you plant a grape seed, it’ll tend to produce a grape vine.
You can’t expect a grape seed to produce a bitter melon vine, or a bitter melon seed to produce a grape vine.

When you plant a “kamma seed,” it’ll tend to give pleasant results if it’s skillful, and painful results if it’s not.
Acts of generosity, over the long term, tend to lead to wealth.
Taking intoxicants tends to lead to mental derangement.
But how strong those results will be and how long they will take to ripen will depend on many factors in addition to the original actions:
the actions you’ve done before,
the actions you’ve done after,
and the state of your mind when the results are fully ripe.

How your mind acts around the ripening of old kamma seeds is the most important factor determining whether you suffer from those results.
If your present actions (new kamma) are unskillful as they engage with the results of old kamma, you can suffer even from the results of good past kamma.
If your present kamma is skillful, it can minimize the suffering that would come from bad past kamma.
If you treat the pleasure coming from past good kamma as an excuse for pride or selfishness, you’re going to suffer.
If you treat the pain coming from an unskillful action as an opportunity to comprehend pain so as to release yourself from its power, you’ll suffer less.
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>>24773211
>What is the process by which rebirth happens?

The Buddha’s short explanation is that,
>at the moment of death, an act of craving heads toward a new birth in a new world of experience. If you cling to that craving, you’re reborn.
The analogy he gives is of a fire jumping from one house to another. Just as a fire depends on the wind to sustain and carry it from one house to the next,
>when you cling to craving here and now, at the moment of death, it sustains and carries you to the next life

In a longer explanation, the Buddha lists four stages to the process:
>First, based on ignorance, there’s craving, which can be for any of three things:
—sensual fantasies;
—becoming—a particular identity in a particular world of experience; or
—non-becoming, the desire to destroy a particular identity in a particular world of experience.

One of the Buddha’s discoveries is that this last craving(non-becoming/suicide), instead of putting an end to becoming, actually creates new becoming.
This is why the path to the end of kamma and rebirth has to develop DISPASSION for all three forms of craving so as to put them aside.

>Next, based on craving, there’s clinging—you feed mentally off the craving, in hopes that it will take you to even more food.

>Then there’s becoming, in which a potential world of experience, together with a potential identity within that world, appears to the mind.

These worlds can exist on any of three levels:
—the sensory level—ranging from the pains of hell and the animal realm, through the mixed pleasures and pains of the human world, and on up to the pleasures of the sensual heavens;
—the realm of form—heavens in which the inhabitants enjoy the pleasures of pure form;
—the realm of formlessness—heavens in which the inhabitants enjoy formless pleasures, such as the pleasure of infinite space or of infinite consciousness.

The range of worlds and identities that will appear in this way at your death will come from your past actions—in body, speech, and mind. Unskillful actions will produce painful becomings; skillful actions, pleasant ones. This is why it’s important to develop skillful actions throughout life. In this way, such practices as GENEROSITY, VIRTUE, and MEDITATION not only lead to happiness in this lifetime, but also provide the possibility of happy future lives.

>Then there’s birth, when you move into taking on a role in one of the potential worlds of experience.

These four steps are the same process you experience when the mind goes for a distracting thought while you meditate—which is why learning how to keep the mind concentrated on a single object without getting waylaid by distracting thoughts is an excellent preparation in learning to die skillfully.

https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/KarmaQ&A/Section0004.html
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>>24773211
>>24773218
unironically a bunch of word games
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Buddhism is atheist but not materialist, Buddhists absolutely believe in other universes and reincarnation. If your karma is really shitty then you will find yourself in a world of pain. Of course according to Buddhism, once you achieve enlightenment it should not bother you. But it is extremely difficult to achieve enlightenment in realms of extreme pain or bliss (no realm is completely one or the other)
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>>24773136
Buddhism has an absolute, it's called "unconditioned reality". they just approach it apophatically and so can't say anything positively about it (only what it is not). theists (at least classical ones) choose to use analogical predication to say that the absolute can be known as a 'person', and that's because whatever preconditions that allowed for the emergence of human consciousness must pre-exist in the absolute nature of reality, ie. "what is higher redounds to what is lower", in a platonic sense.
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Buddhism works as an angle in a novel, but let's be honest it the least 'looking facts in the face' religion (quote unquote) going, isn't it? Sorry and all but the West win this round.
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>>24773136
Everything the left says about Buddhism is a lie. Just read any good or old book about Buddhism and that will be immediately obvious.
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>>24773203
they did this to jesus too, bro wasn't even dead before they started fucking up his message



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