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What does /lit/ think about Don Quixote, and Cervantes as a writer?
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>>24777866
I'm reading it now but I'm losing steam. After an interesting opening to part 2 addressing the false quixote, its starting to drag. I'm probably going to push through the rest anyway
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>>24777866
I stopped reading about 200 pages in, around the part when Quixote and Panza enter the Sierra Morena valley and meet the guy who's oneitis cucked him with his friend. I sort of lost steam. It's a good book, though.
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don quixote is unimpressive and purile. it only get's recognition for being the "first" novel, but tale of genji is way older.
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>>24777866
>and Cervantes as a writer?
Pierre Menard was better.
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>>24778939
>purile
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>>24777866
I read it for novelty, but it wasn't all that interesting
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>>24778939
What even makes something a novel? if its written in prose instead of a poetic style?

I would also posit Chretian de Troyes' work from the 12th century to also be an early contender, but im still uncertain of what makes a novel a novel instead of something else.
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i don't read it for the same reason i don't watch silent movies.
they're a product of their time and the world has moved on. it was great 200 years ago or whatever i'm sure, but eating grass and berries was also great when we were less evolved, doesn't mean i have to pretend to appreciate it now
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>>24779075
I havent read don quixote yet, but I do have a hobby of reading books from different time periods. its a pretty interesting mental excersise (depending on the book ofc) since you eventually develop a kind of understanding of a world that is quite a bit alien from your own, by time, place, and indivigual experience/attitude. I would very much recommend it as a way to expand your appreciation for things.

you dont have to living in the wild for a year only eating berries, but who knows, maybe the local wildberries, if they are safe, mayapeal to your pallet.
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I enjoyed Don Quixote. I read the Grossman translation which has notes that explain some of the more obscure references, which helps. The comedy holds up a lot and the moment in the second book where Don Quixote and Sancho reunite was touching. While I felt the novellas he put in the first book dragged it down, it was interesting to find out that it is the subject of the lost Shakespeare play.
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I would just end up saying the same thing as this guy: https://warosu.org/lit/thread/16556202

Hate that book
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it feels like a short story collection where every story follows the same skeleton
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>>24779075
Silent films are great even outside of their time. You sound like you were born after 2001 to be honest. Just give up the arts and find a new hobby.
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>>24777866
The musical is much better.
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>>24779901
you don’t need to be born after 2001 to be unhistorically-minded. even children can feel at home in a mid-sixteenth-century english castle, or a bronze age galley, or late-eighteenth-century dublin thieves' kitchen.
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Why was he shitting on something that wasnt even popular for a 100 years by the time he published?
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>>24780003
I haven't read don quick-goatsy, but the musical numbers from the musical are fantastic
youtube.com/watch?v=ALWV_EA6x8I&pp=0gcJCf8Ao7VqN5tD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo7VlD66ISM
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>>24780087
The musical gives it actual soul instead of keeping it cynical reddit slop. I still cry every time at his death scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbvfM-OubIA

Lee is also pretty amusing.
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>>24780149
jesus fucking christ there are some absolute 0/10s posting on this board these days
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>>24780149
Yah, it really does touch something elemental in you. You can all it hokey or sentimental, which it is, but I think it speaks to our deep instincts to make reality just a bit more ideal.
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>>24780149
I do have to say, im not a fan of this particular remake. I think the electric guitar and other backings are a bit much.
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>>24777866
I go back and read the parts I like. I love his monologues about lofty ideals etc etc. Rutherford clicked much better for me than Grossman, some of the older ones are good too with their own charm.
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does he actually tilt windmills?
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>>24781536
He nukes them.
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we should do a /lit/ readalong :)
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>>24780232
Did you hear Sancho in the other one.
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>>24780156
You'll get it when you grow up.
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>>24779075
Eating berries is fucking awesome you retard
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A pretty good book elevated to godhood by spanish people wanting their own Shakespeare or Goethe
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spanish people consider him their shakespeare
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>>24778939
It's puerile you pseud
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>>24778956
Underrated post.
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>>24782026
shakespeare is their shakespeare
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>>24779075
i could tell you didn't read it, you don't need to write it
>>24782008
nigga did you know cervantes was born before those two, right? it was worldwide famous when he was alive
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>>24778939
performative contrarianism
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It's on my top 3 favorite books ever and my opinion counts more because I'm Spanish and read it in its original medieval Spanish as it was intended.

>people in this thread thinking they read El ingenioso hidalgo Don Quijote de la Mancha when they actually read a poor man's quixote translation
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>>24782360
Was it famous in the ubiquitous and singulaar way goethe and Shakespeare were?
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>>24777866
Could tell it was brilliant for its time but I understood basically 0 of the references and humor. Still quite imaginative though.
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>>24782377
>It's in my top 3 books ever
>btw it's also one of three notable novels ever written in my native language
Maybe your grasp of English just isn't a strong as you think it is.
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>>24777866
Never read it but the pinball machine looks fun
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>>24783573
Quite possibly, because I don't understand what you mean.



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