>that embarrassing and cringe era from 2018- 2021 where I was OBSESSED with this guy and basically treated his political views as the word of God>>Now I look back at it and see how much of a dildo this guy is. He wants NATO expansion into Russia and China and holds many other garbage opinions like that which are essentially just mainstream SocDem or neocon but worded with nasty hand grotesque language I can’t believe we used to love this guy on /lit/ back in 2019. That is an embarrassing era to remember..
>>24780947>He wants NATO expansion into Russia and Chinabased. i want this also. whites need to deal with the asiatic menace.
>>24780964His entire shtick is he says stuff you would find on CNN but with crude sex remarks tossed in. It is very old very fast.
>>247809642016: why supporting Donald Trump is socialist2022: why supporting NATO is socialist2030: why supporting Adolf Hitler is socialist (after all, he waved around red flags and threatened to destroy America. Right?)
He's pretty bad desu. Even Evola is less embarrassing.
>>24780988We are on the right track after all
>>24780947australian here, i have no idea who that is. thought it was old luke skywalker for a moment
>>24781058He was really big here in 2019 when he destroyed Jordan Peterson at the height of his influence but then 2022 and the SMO came around and he showed himself to be an establishment NATO shill. Also he was banned off of RT so his influence ironically, went the way of Peterson’s. In fact, Peterson made a come back recently so Peterson might be more influential.
>>24781064>when he destroyed Jordan PetersonDid you not watch the "debate"? Peterson showed up prepared for an actual debate about capitalism vs communism, Zizek gave some completely unrelated canned speech he'd already given at some college a few months earlier, Peterson realized that they didn't actually disagree about anything, and the two of them were practically best friends by the end.
>>24781071Yeah in retrospect I actually agree with your take. I should put destroyed in quotes. How is it defending Socialism when he concedes the eastern bloc was a dump and then goes on to support all these neocon talking points? In retrospect I have more respect for Peterson.
>>24780988Supporting Adoilf Hitler was always socialist.
Could never get past his spittle filled speech patterns myself
>>24781064>>24780947>nato is bad because>i-it just is!!!!thank you sergei
Trump should have invited Russia to join NATO desu. The seethe would have been absolutely hilarious.
>>24781114What sort of socialist wants a military alliance to be expanded? Don’t call yourself a socialist then.
>>24780947>I can’t believe we used to love this guy on /lit/ back in 2019.Who's "we", faggot?
>>24780947I think this is a common thing for youth to do, hold onto idols.I somewhat avoided this cringe era by being hopelessly unsure of everything including my own opinions.
>>24780947Calling anything cringe, especially of ones own life, is an indication of spiritual death.
>>24781131The several hundred or so regular posters who watched the debate and posted pro-Zizek memes in 19 and nowadays outgrew him and don’t like him at all.
>>24781131guenonfag is that you? Now all we need is butterfly and we will have a namefag reunion.Also, is it just me or did guenonfag popularize the meme use of PBUH?
He supported the 1999 bombing of Belgrade and even if I was a blissfully unaware kid back then, I'm not convinced it was the right thing to do to solve the situation in Kosovo.He is old now, so he has retarded takes - like Nick Land and other boomers now, he admits it himself, pic related.That said, he still has a special place in my heart because he was really refreshing when everything about American/global politics was either about gay redditors supporting Hilary as a groundbreaking left figure or pepe-posting Trump shills on 4chan. 2015-2016 was fucking hell, and Zizek kept me sane in moments of doubts. I will always be grateful for this. Let the man die in peace.
>>24780988He admitted his support of Trump was due to Hillary being more interventionist neo con. Also keep in mind he advocated for a complete breakdown, reduction to anarchy, and rebuilding of left wing movements around the world sometime around there as well. Most people don't realize that Zizek's particular revisions entail he almost has to change his views, this is something you will frequently see commentators on of his philosophy point out. If a Hegelian overlay is opted for then there is something of a reversion to ontological collapse where a jouissance is just the intended outcome. Zizek still retains the option of doing without speculative dialectics but if he choose for dialectical materialism he is obligated to reject a unified totality and will in most cases defend the negativity of the natural state. My personal guess is that he did this to avoid backsliding, but the result is one in which a normative left identifying person might view him as non-left due to social issue differences but is unlikely to be able to pose an argument with him on other issues. Almost all the hate he gets from that side is the result of his social opinions so it seems likely he did this for a purpose. >how many Hegelian criticisms of popular movies and TV shows are really needed?
>>24781064>Peterson made a come back recentlymore like a "coma" back lamo
>>24781131Why's this motherfucker's forehead so fucking small. There must barely be a prefrontal cortex in there
>>24780964I want genocide of all Slavs so I hate him.
>>24781078>eastern block was shitty when under Russian rule>what do you mean you oppose Russiam hegemony over the former eastern block reeeee
>>24780947yeah just another "based" zogbotthey are all the same, trying to shill status quo propaganda just with an air of intellectualism
>>24781315>me, my daughter, and my dad are being attacked by demonsthis bitch is fucking crazy. How many times did she almost kill him and her kid now, 6 times?Get the old retard away from her, he is too dumb to understand that he completely failed as a father and created a schizoid bpd whore who will be the end of him
>>24781966>schizoidschizo
>>24781064Peterson was already passé as fuck in 2019, he was in little need of being destroyed. Lefties massively overestimate his hold on the new right, he really didn't do much aside from being the first "respectable" person, back then at least, to take a stand against lefty lunacy and not crack under media pressure right away. A year or two later the chud meta was already way past jerking off le free speech and le old school liberal values.
>>24780964Same. It’s obvious western style democracy is the only way. The rest of the world is literal savage tier, countries ran by despots only do ok until the succession is fucked and some moron gets absolute power. We’ll see in the end, but I’m already smug towards the doomers.
>>24782011>It’s obvious western style democracy is the only wayThere's not been a worse time to espouse this opinion in nearly two centuries
>>24780947>I can’t believe we used to love this guy on /lit/ back in 2019Speak for yourself faggot
>>24781952When I first got into philosophy and political lit before reading the major works, he appealed to me and seemed so knowledgeable with how he namedropped stuff from Hegel or Kant but now it seems soooo fucking cringe that I EVER liked this dude or respected his opinion on anything. He’s the talking head pundit equivalent to someone’s geriatric commie relative who goes into long winded rants meant to style himself a free thinker but really just repeating stuff you could glean from the headlines of the CNN channel while spouting the most revolting and crass sexual jokes and comments under the mistaken assumption that it makes one folksy
>>24780947I can believe that. You have always seemed like a retard.
>>24781927He simply stored 80% of his brain in his inhumanly long midface
>>24780947Who didn't read embarrassing shit a few years ago? There was a time when /lit/ would be full of spam about Stirner, Evola, Marcus Aurelius, Deleuze, BAP, and the occasional Cockshott. I don't know if things have gotten better because most of the election tourists have left, or if everybody is now just too cynical to be obsessed with an author at the risk of feeling cringe in hindsight. In some ways, I miss the sincerity of the larping.
>>24782195Cockshott is a math genius and leagues above those Redditor favorites.
>>24781064>SMO
>i got tricked by the orthodox marxist who holds orthodox marxist views
>>24780964based
>>24780947>he wants nato expansion into Russia and ChinaBased>just mainstream SocdemBased
>>24780947>I can’t believe we used to love this guy on /lit/ back in 2019. That is an embarrassing era to remember..Nothing he says is what he actually thinks or means: he is playing the public pervert.
>>24782342>filtered by CoJ>still stuck in the primitive stages of ideological attachmentWait until the cynicism ack*sniiiiifff*ually hits.
>>24781315>>24781966They are fucking. An incestual relationship. Father and Daughter, peen in vageen. Sex.
>>24780947Zizek was at zenith of popularities in early 00's, known to philosophers as early as 90s, you couldn't do media studies without hearing his name if you were in college then, his books however were what people talked about back then, they are far more serious than his public speaking, by 2010s he had became a meme, certainly sp by point of Peterson debate, still is, and was even when I think most millenials became acquainted through occupy and his pervert guides and his n-word pass video which was among his first major meme moments>t.Oldfag
>>24782195The entire Covid era /lit/ culture was really fucking gay. Book club, Zizek, Greta Thunberg, Peterson, traditionalism and guenon
>>24782719The issue was spam moreso than content. If we just had a single guenon or peterson thread each or maybe two it would be fine. But the shitposters insisted on filling the entire catalog. Not to mention the guenonposters in particular had bad habits of copy pasting walls of texts and being unable to understand any possible criticisms even good faith curiosity without asserting that the interlocuter was hylic and misguided.
>>24780947I for one was never on his bandwagon
Zizek's description of the right-wing populism of the future from around 2011 (?) or so was really prescient:https://youtu.be/ZLFtJGnRehU>>24782700All facts
>>24780947He's basically Hasan but for people with >100 IQ. I never bought what he was selling but I've seen enough of his stuff to get the appeal.
>>24784813To me when I was 20 the novelty of someone erudite making a sentence with both Immanueal Kant’s name and the word Incel in it was mind boggling like he must have some hidden insights I had to listen to but now in retrospect after reading some of those guys he mentions I find his analysis of everything really shallow and lame. Like that was cool when I was 20 or so but not now
