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>God does not exist, He is being-itself.
Is he right?
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No

He is creator, not creation
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>>24784724
God is a human interpretation of something.
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>>24784738
all things are a human interpretation of something.
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>>24784724
Did 20th century mainline Protestant theology produce anything of lasting impact
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>>24784741
stellar example of eisegesis. flawed syncretism that is wrenchign specific, deeply contextual snippets from disparate traditions and shoehorning them into some woo woo philosophical universalism that ignores the theological incompatibilities. hell nah, dawg. hell nah.
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>>24784796
It was the dominant mode of philosophical theology in the 20th century
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>>24784741
Satanic hippie cargo cult nonsense.
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>>24784724
Sounds vaguely Spinozist
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>>24784726
>He is creator, not creation
That's not incompatible with OP's quote at all, a God or Supreme Being that is Being itself can still create things which are less than Being itself
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>>24784831
no retard, if god is existence itself, than he cannot make something that isn't god/existence, because making anything less would mean something exists outside of god
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>>24784837
>no retard, if god is existence itself, than he cannot make something that isn't god/existence, because making anything less would mean something exists outside of god
This is just begging the question that the created product would possess the quality of existence instead of having a shadowy pseudo-existence that was dependent on God. But if this is GOD we are talking about there is no reason why He couldn't do this, God doesn't follow the rules of rationalism invented by humans.
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>>24784852
>god defys logic, therefore i can shoehorn any nonsensical bullshit and you must accept it

whoa man thats like so deep
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>>24784724
God is being and becoming simultaneously
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>>24784852
if god can create a thing that genuinely is, yet is not god, then how can god be existence Itself????
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>>24784873
>>god defys logic
No, that can be and has been explained in perfectly coherent ways that don't violate logic at all. It only seems to violate logic if you take as your starting point a priori metaphysical assumptions that are ultimately arbitrary. But either way it remains true that God isn't bound by ideas that the human minds invents. The assumption that everything can be grouped under existing or not-existing, and that these are the sole valid categories of the universe is just an arbitrary assumption that actually is impossible to demonstrate or prove in any way, it may not actually be true. It's not ultimately justified by anything, so for you to say that anything that goes against this "defys logic" is vacuous.

In Advaita Vedanta for example they say that God or Brahman has absolute existence and that phenomena belongs to a shadowy realm of falsity or illusion that is neither the absolute existence of Brahman and nor is it total and complete nothingness. This does not violate logic because its not affirming two different contradictory things at the same time about any of these categories, and nor is admitting any of them inconsistent with admitting the other two also.
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>>24784724
>being
not defined
>itself
not defined, recursive
Wordcels gonna wordcel.
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>>24784893
none of what you said makes any logical sense, you retarded jeet
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>>24784901
>being
>nonbeing
>shadowy pseudo being

literally what in the FUCK are you talking about rajesh, listen to yourself, there is something, or there is nothing, there is no third category.
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>>24784908
or rather there is existence, or there is nothing, to be precise. they are absolutes. there is no in-between state
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>>24784724
Placing the restraint of existence on God doesn't make sense.
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>>24784724
>being does not exist
Was he retarded?
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>>24784873
>>24784893
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>>24784820
That is like the most basic Monist comment imaginable - “thinking as being” and being as above change. God wouldn’t exist as he isn’t outside of the creation but rather is part of it.
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>>24784893
I feel like you should first clarify what you mean by God being existence, and what a "shadow-existence" would mean. Perhaps you mean a shadow-existence in a broader sense, like if God is the universe's first moment and his creations are that moment's consequences, but you can't just attribute to God things that don't make sense.
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>>24784925
clive was a P.I.M.P.



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