>>24787011picrel shows you already know the asnwer to that question
>>24787030le egg came before the chicken thougheverbeit or however the egg is scrambled (chicken).
>>24787011WOVON MAN NICHT SPRECHEN KANN, DARUBER MUSS MAN SCHWEIGEN
>>24787080nothing is beyond language but many things can be limited by it
>>24787011If you believe in God, language invented man because God spoke the world into existence.If you don't, then man would have invented language to codify concepts.In either case, after the initial starting point it's sort of a ladder of man inventing language inventing man inventing language. Codifying concept into language creates a system that raises more questions about the concept necessitating more language that further broadens the horizon of concepts. They continually change and refine the other.
cute little chicken look how tiny but stern and confident he looks
>>24787122so the wor(el)d is both a feedback loop but also a fractal sounds like free energy
>>24787150They're adorable.>>24787011To answer the question, I do not know. The concept of man exists because of language but physical humans predate language.
>>24787150in his head hes still a dragon
>>24787170Thats similar to Bergers conception of religion in Sacred Canopy being a dialectic between man and his environment which in turn reproduces him. I finished it last week.
>>24787181i find it interesting when the story starts reading itself to find out its the book as well
>>24787011man obviously invented language... and god.
>>24787487but was man man before language did language not play apart into homosapiens evolution into what we know as man some say psychedelics may have played a part in the formation of language could that not be a form of symboitc evolution itself
>>24787011Shakespeare invented man. Harold Bloom proved this
>>24787011Egg came first because whatever chickens evolved from were probably also born in eggs.
>>24787678language is eternal man is but a symbiotic vessel indeed
>>24787181https://dreams-of-an-electric-mind.webflow.io/dreams/conversation-1712185367-txt
>>24787122Nah. Understand that god is equivalent to inevitability. Resource constraint will always increase. Population inevitably increases competition, competition inevitably increases resource constraint. Eventual automatic formulation of language is one of many geometric shortcuts that form to temporarily cheat this ever increasing resource constraint. Anything incapable of automatically inventing language becomes subservient to that which does automatically invent language. Geometry, baby. If that still doesn't make sense to you: try to visualize the chemicals required to fabricate the VERY first neural circuitry that forms language comprehension. It is 'just' circuitry. It is inevitable. That doesn't make it any less miraculous.Instead you are to logically tie both of them together as mutual inventors of one another.
>>24787011>In the beginning was the Logos, and the Logos was with God, and the Logos was God.>>24787716God made all of those as they are, although "muh competition, muh nature red in tooth and claw" is just the Fall and a fallen way of looking at the world. >The glory of Him who moves all things >penetrates the universe, reflecting >more brightly in one part, and in another less.(Paradiso 1:1-3)
>>24787011https://youtu.be/YYfajPXdvSM?t=421
>>24787011The one, then the Apeiron.
>>24787678>Egg came firstTHen where did the egg come from?
