Any books on how Stockholm syndrome actually being the basis for true love
>>24792645Holy shit violence is actually literally and unitonically the answer isn't it
Any books on what sort of insane impulse compels people to think like OP?
>>24792645No, because that's false. That's mere dedication, and dedication alone isn't love. Dedication to a piece of filth does no one any good.
>>24792657>>24792666dark romance is what made me think of it
>>24792645kill urself lil nig
>>24792760What’s with these Reddit tier responses?
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>>24792645it's not a true love.It's usually stems from abandonment by the family where the abused doesn't know where to seek for help. And they don't because of additional learned helplessness by the time the abuse starts getting violent.
>>24792645>if you love someone that's a sign they're abusive Modern psychology literally teaches women to be unattached psychopaths who drop mem if they aren't directly serving their every selfish whim. Liberalism has done such a number on the human soul.
>>24794060No it's "if you love someone who is abusing you you have stockholm syndrome"
>>24794097Replace the word abuser with "partner" and most of these are normal. What happens is this gives an excuse to people specifically woman who are usually narcissistic themselves to interpret everything their partner does as "abusive". "Oh I had an argument with my boyfriend and he was kind to me after and it made me feel better, according to this chart that's a symptom I've been manipulated by an abuser who I am now allowed to abuse to protect myself"here's a reason why pop psychology is so popular with narcissistic people
From my experience in subbing (and domming) in BDSM relationships with 3 man and a woman the only reason for that being the case is because most partners are really fucking boring and emotionally unavaiable these days. Think of the average man in his 20s, what is he doing right now? Jerking off, listening to podcasts, playing Fortnite for multiple hours on end, engaging in culture war bs, watching instagram reels and so on. How fucking boring is that? Imagine being forced to date that 80% of the time and even worst being forced to spend the rest of your life with that utterly soulless mongrel. Now change it to some random lunatic who might even be a little less attractive but he's just completely off the rails. He tells you about hanging you and punches you and puts empty guns inside your every hole while licking your neck and muttering nonsense. You think he's disgusting but suddenly he's acting all sweet and going on schizo rants claiming you are thhe best thing in his life and how your piss tastes like fine wine just to ditch you and slut dhame you afterwards. You're completely mentally fucked and at a loss for words but it sure as hell is better than most of the relationships you have been in because at least you feel a little something from it that most people don't have the spirit to give youThe dark romance phenomena is not some type of modern woman being degenerates (though there is a grooming aspect to it specially given a lot of them are targeted at teens) it's just that it's really REALLY hard to feel anything towards an absolutely average boring fucking manchild partner with a mid dick. The thrills from abuse and how dirty it feels really just drives you towards actually going mad for someone. I say this as someone who loves fucking self harm and body art for others.>t. slavic foid
>>24794014Most marriage throughout history have been arranged. I think that overtime when people grow to rely on each other that’s what creates love especially if they are indifferent or adverse to each other. It seems like the love at first site is the weakest form and collapses most of the time
>>24794150That’s my point women love being a damsel in distress more than they like being saved by a simp. That’s why I’m looking for a book that argues that Stockholm syndrome is misleading
>>24794109>Replace the word abuser with "partner" and most of these are normal."refusing to leave someone who is abusing you is the same as not randomly divorcing your spouse for no reason"
>>24794189Well, yeah I've seen good looking women staying married with uggo men just because they had a kid. With one kid a divorce is still possible but is already less likely, with two the chance of it falls down tremendously.>people grow to rely on each otherIt doesn't create 'love', it just creates a dependency.
wasn't stockholm syndrome a meme
>>24794195No no no you got it all twisted, as I expected most man would. It's not that woman are into abusers over people who are nice to them it just so happens that abusers are usually more interesting people and that most relationships feel really apathetic or boring with a lot of the compliments and little treats we get feeling empty or half hearted for anyone with half a brain
>>24794195>>24794222stockholm syndrome has long been debunked, it persists just because its a convenient excuse for how a woman could possibly fall for a tall attractive confident and domineering man such as the guy that did the act that got the "syndrome" coined (olsson i think was his surname, should be incredibly easy to google anyway. look at the photos of him and the faces on the women). its also strange how its only women that get affected by it. its also strange how similar symptoms can arise (again, only in women) even if the woman never even meets the man, for example the classic "sending a love letter to a serial rapist/murderer". olsson also got letters from women while he was in jail after the event, somehow this "stockholm syndrome" is contagious. again remember this was pre internet, every woman that sent him a letter did it because they wanted to, not because of a ticktock trend
>>24794285>its also strange how its only women that get affected by itFrom personal experience, specially on hinge, I can say plenty of man are too!
>>24794298are you talking about the "i can fix her" mindset? because thats a different phenomenon, it also tells us more about you than it does about your hinge matches
>>24794298damn u use dating apps what a slut
>>24794204What is love?
>>24794273Woman logic post feet
>>24792645Women will dream about guys like this and read about them in dark romance smut, but as soon as a real life man does it then it's suddenly too far. *rolls eyes.* Make up your mind!
>>24792645https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misattribution_of_arousalDon't know of any books on the topic, just a bunch of research.
>>24794150>Complains about men watching porn>Is totally brain-fried from dark romance smut that normal relationships are considered boring.Boy you female niggers are stupid.
>>24794374Smut is erotic, porn is pornographic. I don't even read smut personally but I still think it's a higher form of arousal than porn. And yeah most people are kinda boring and dull hylic like golems I don't know what to tell you man.
>>24794382>our wholesome smut, their twisted porn
>>24794382>>24794386It's even more dangerous than porn because they don't see how bad it is. At least men generally agree that porn is bad for you
>>24794386>>our wholesome smut, their twisted pornYou forget that if a woman is doing something, a man can do it a 1000 times better.
>>24794395Woman also agree smut is bad and disgusting though??? The difference is they get off to the idea of it being smelly and disgusting much like one would smoke a pack of cigarettes with an enormous "WARNING: WILL GIVE YOU ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION, YOUR DICK WILL ROT AND YOUR TEETH WILL FALL AWAY" written in bright red on the box. It symbolises decadence and the subcounscious idea we all have that we are whores and bad people cursed ever since naively taking the apple and offering it to Adam, that all woman have some deep evil in them being only held back by societal norms and the patriarchy. How true that claim is can be up for debate but most woman I know do either counsciously or unconciously feel like they are just the worst most deranged rotten creatures on this earth. Posting smut collections are just a coping mechanism for that.Smut is not purely mechanical it deals with the relationships and dynamic between the characters rather than just the physical platonical ideal of it all (like porn does), it's not in any way deep but the main instrument of arousal is the characters' dynamics and how that is directly reflected in their sexual output as opposed to merely looking at dick, no one enjoys just sucking dick but the feeling of it be it of submissiveness or caretaking or comforting is what really gets peoole going, just ask fags>>24794409The best smut is written by mentally ill man. Much like the best sex is done by them
>>24794416you just keep digging this hole kekeither by the things you type or by the posts you refuse to respond to
>>24794416>this much copeSurely smut is better. Surely real life sex is not being trivialized and made boring by the reading of it (like porn). Surely you read smut because you're fucked up and not fucked up because you read smut.
>>24794420>>24794423*sigh* can't have shit with hylics man, humankind has turned spiritually dull and it shall only get worst
>>24794448have fun with your spiritual smut I guess
>>24794150Disgusting degenerates like you should drop dead
>>24794477Hot!
>>24794273I'm interested in the roman empire and gardening, building things that last. You're interested in violent apes. It's likely an adaptation rooted in fear, an environment full of some form of chaos triggering ancient female survival instincts, even if that chaos is just sporadic affection from absent parents.
>>24794541Being interested in the roman empire and gardening does not exclude you from being the type of man im speaking about, it's not a violent ape, otherwise I would be around gangster all day, but one deeply passionate that doesn't seek to hide it from others no matter how violent it all is. It's the direct opposition to a modern society that seeks to cage people emotionally as much as possible to slowly rot them into unthinking slaves that have no will to act on their own. I don't want to be enslaved to a man nor do I want him to be enslaved to me, I want both of us to take actions to assert ourselves for the things we want without compromising our flawed nature as humans in the process. Him getting all worked up for me is more of a personal fantasy really but it should manifest as a trait of the things I mentioned before and not as a simple act of indulgence, or even worst, need to personally affirm his own ego by claiming me or my body as his own, the latter being preferred by most modern moids and being directly reflected in their steroid taking habits. Im also into gardening :)
>>24794557You need to stfu and listen to a man. Listening to your opinion (female or homo) created the fall of not only western civilization but all of humanity
>>24792666>Dedication to a piece of filth does no one any good.lolwut?
>>24794557>I should be allowed to cheat without repurcussjons.
>>24794360It's just spoiled girls. It's the "Stockholm syndrome" not the "Baghdad syndrome" after all
>>24794600It's okay to admit you're not smart enough to take part in actual discussions. No one expects this from you. Pick up your club and go search for some apes from the enemy camp.
>>24794670You want a man to drag you by your hair
>>24794409pic unrelated. unmasturbable
>>24794609You're such a cuck you immediatly thought about cheating even if I didn't mention it in the slightest ffs
>>24794811>Masturbates to eroticaWoman detected. Opinion discarded.
>>24794360>as soon as a real life man does it then it's suddenly too farhaha anon>me with girl "perfect boyfriend">good dynamic, no weird power dynamics, sex is great, any issues are talked over, no red flags>1 year in>oh uuuuuuhhhh I don't feel in love anymore?? like uhhh I uhhh???>literally every relationship to the point where I ended up being unable to commit to anyone>girl abused in HS>ugly psycho BF literally punching her in the guts>7 years with abuser>girl abused in HS #2>5 years>several other girls abused>4-6 yearsI couldn't even dream of staying with a girl for more then 1 yearthe funny thing is that there doesn't even need to be the excuse that the guy is a chad thundercock, he just needs to be an abuser. a good amount of these were manletsall the woman haters who rant here are probably still better people than the utter niggerbrains women love to get withit's just a horrible unswallowable blackpill that not being a dark triad nigger in this world is genetically a fucking L branded on your forehead. you will ALWAYS be seen as inferior, your normal person temperament is rejected by the lizard brain demanding big ooga booga apeshit behavior regardless of modern social norms and advancement, literally having a bigger brain is worse than having a nigger brain, that's why humanity runs on a net negative, we had a pool of genetics that allowed us to get somewhere but it slowly expired because women drive the needle regression, it's all a loss, you were literally trained and conditioned to lose at life in the name of a system that thrives on the kind of people that women can't commit to. It's so fucking cucked on so many levels it's unreal, our society is completely unnatural
>>24794609It's more like›I want to cheat on him, then have him abuse me to prove he wants me
>>24795010I feel like this masochistic bullshit can be sidestepped if you find a high IQ girl with a father that made her feel loved growing up. Or an autistic woman because they have male brains.
>>24795010Most people are capable of having long-term relationships and acting in an adult way when they end. You don't seem like one of those. Grow up and try to understand the mechanics of abuse (gee, why would anyone ever stay in such a relationship?) instead of using the topic to cope.
>>24795060aren't you tired of giving bot tier replies like this? "you seem like" seem like what you idiot? from what? from a ranting 4chan post? are you people really this fucking dense or is it just a collective effort to troll sitewide? I wonder if there's actual bots trained to spew the same fucking tired shit every single time someone complains about women's bullshit behavior. it's just a fucking fact of life and people have fully opened their eyes now but you still keep parroting this stupid shit
>>24795107It’s a foid or tranny… they are drawn to this board like magnets
>>24795107When ever you see passive agressive shaming tactcs like>grow upIt's probably an actual woman. They can't help themselves from using manipulative language.
>>24795107Rant away, but don't wrap it up in this Secret Truth bullshit. No one has trouble admitting that many women stay with abusers and it benefits everyone to learn more about the mechanics of this, such as cutting off external social contact, DARVO etc. But your takeaway from this is just doubling down on societal bitterness. Plenty of men and women would freely admit that their desires are capable of ruining their lives. If it's such a global phenomenon, why not try to address it?
>>24792645All those symptoms are conditioned on the object being an abuserYou are right to note something that seems to be love, but you're reversing causality if you say Stockholm syndrome is the basis of love.
>>24795145>why not try to address it?I addressed it by giving up on women years ago. All things considered, you know, it's not my fucking problem. They can enjoy getting bitch slapped by retards until their pussy falls off and then unhappily marrying a balding cuck who'd marry a cow because he's lonely.
>>24795118“… needs to do”That phrase is usually female
>>24795010Those abusers are, again, probably more interesting and emotionally intelligent people than you. Just be less boring and stop sitting on your ass on 4chan all day whining. Just become like them dumbass
>>24795376>still desperately trying to gaslight
>>24795376It's a theory, but thw Stockhold Syndrome doesn't have the vocal preferences as ab influence.stated preferences do nada re women's actions. "blablabla" - women saying things they don't do
>>24794150Mid woman getting mad she has to date mid men
>>24792652>Violence, naked rape has saved more marriages than anything else.-Heinlein
>>24795698Why does the navy produce so many great authors?
>>24794318>"i can fix her" mindset?I prefer calling those cucks Captain Save a hoe
>newfags are responding to the bait and copypasted posts of a known tranny from CC and lolcow Couldn't be me
>>24795993Name one. You can't.
>>24792645The problem i see with stockholm syndrome is that it implies "normal" love is something completely pure and immune to things like material and emotional dependence, manipulation and threats.
>>24796352Melville.Pynchon.Salinger.
>>24794273>more interestingdoubt.jpgWomen just don't have hobbies. Men do, though, and that's why women do their best to sabotage them through infiltration. Either you've been under a rock or are retarded. This is common knowledge at this point.
>>24795993Being at sea and going on fantastic voyages helps the literary imagination.
>>24795113Ban it on sight
>>24796352Frank Herbert
>>24794150>>24795376Remarkably telling. Abusers in my experience are intensely dull and shallow people. But you've never tried taking an active interest in the people who treat you decently because to you a relationship is something someone else does to you, not something you have to actively participate in. Naturally, rather than look inward you have rationalized your dissatisfaction by projecting it outward, into a world that only exists when and how you percieve it. This way you aren't to blame for any of your behavior or feelings, as you are not even an actor in it. This is likely an outcome of parental abuse; stability makes you anxious because you adapted to an ecosystem of coercion and endangerment by loved ones early on and its presence is comforting to you. That you are slav more or less confirms this diagnosis. Seek help.
>>24794335baby dont hurt me
>>24797819Her face after reading this
>>24792645yeah the Bible
>>24796998Playing videogames and jerking off is not a hobby. Thats what most man do. Man with hobbies specially ones relating to art and creating are absolutely lacking in quantity these days because society caters to their consoooomerisms as much as they do for woman these days. I know infinitly more woman into making music, painting, gardening, writing you name it than I do for man at the same sphere. I know exactly 2 man with hobbies and one plays a guitar the other paints miniatures and even the latter kinda neat in it's own way because everyone else just doesn't really do shit other than consooom>>24795685Yeah pretty much>>24797819No one treats anyone decently they just pretend to so it fits their interests. Honesty is a dead virtue. The modern man is a spiritually dead creature and anything they want is sex and nothing more, just cut the bullshit and falsehoods of pretending to be nice to get it. Everything else is true and even as a somewhat self centered person I can tell im idealising and projecting too much
>>24797955>implying you’re interesting for calling everything boring
>>24797979Yes I am part of the cream of the crop literary elite that listens to the redscarepod, force vomits every meal and is currently writing the greatest postmodern work of my respective nation about how much life sucks and how many drugs I have done. Au revoir unenlightened peasant, kiss my heels
>>24797955>I know women who make musicno you don't. women musicians sing, they don't produce>I know women who paintmaybe a couple>gardening, writingmaybe
>>24792645Stockholm Syndrome is fake and gay.The people in the bank tried their best to get out of a hostage situation without getting killed by idiot criminals and retarded police by shaming politicians.
>>24798001>no you don't. women musicians sing, they don't produceNope. It's mostly fusion stuff with a violin and piano she can't sing for shit and has clear speech issues. Plenty of woman produce their own music specially around a couple nicher scenes like neofolk but you're too close minded to even look into anything, fucking imbecile
>>24798015every non-singer musician I've ever heard of save like seven are male. it's not that I'm not looking into it, they just don't exist. what you found is not the norm
>>24794150First, you're not a woman. Second, you're fucked in the head. Thanks for listening.
>>24794382>porn is x>porn is ySame fucking thing. And by the way your precious smut has utterly fucking ruined the traditional publishing industry and mainstream literary discussion as a whole. Last time I checked film culture is still about film as art not as pornography. It's not so with the literary world anymore.
>>24797955>Playing videogames and jerking off is not a hobby. I'm a writer and occasional musician. You're just a troll that needs to get viciously raped and I shant be reading the rest of your post.
>>24797955>No one treats anyone decently they just pretend to so it fits their interests. Honesty is a dead virtue.This is overstating the case and allowing despair to overcome your reason. Honesty is inwardly essential to pare out cancerous beliefs and align oneself to the world as it really is. It's outwardly much stronger than you'd think too, as long as it's not applied naively.>The modern man is a spiritually dead creature and anything they want is sex and nothing more, just cut the bullshit and falsehoods of pretending to be nice to get it.This is almost fair. It's demeaning to waste your time trying to sort out counterfeits when the genuine article is devalued to begin with. But stating the case fairly and without exaggeration helps heal the world. To do otherwise pushes the many deeper into despair or into desperate antisocial flailing. In any case thank you for engaging honestly with what I had to say. It's a pleasant surprise.
>Newfags STILL falling for the bait of the cc/lolcow troon
>>24797955Newsflash most men don’t like sex that much we only do it so frequently because Antichrist free love hippies and Jews brainwashed people into thinking getting laid is a status symbol
