Why do these women insist on becoming public educators and then destroy literacy? What a tragedy it was to let holes vote.
>>24809101Because you fail to fuck her cunt.
>>24809104I'd rather just read my books in peace.
>>24809104Okay so why terrorize children though
>(((levine)))It's all so tiresome.
>>24809101Women aren't really the problem. It's always just been the Jews
>this literal who on twitter with 5 likes sure deserves a thread on /lit/why are you guys like this
>>24809101>Be like Odysseus and embrace the long haul to liberation (and then take the Odyssey out of your curriculum because it’s trash).https://greekcitytimes.com/2020/12/31/teacher-proud-removing-homer/And Jews wonder why people hate them
>>24809101Who gives a fuck. Public school is for faggots and trannies. I don't care if it's ideologically poisoned.
>>24809101Actually a pretty good idea. High schoolers just read a summary of it or watch a video summarizing it. Should make them read something obscure so it's harder to pretend to read it.
>>24809158If you knew how the education system worked you'd know everyone is like this dumb cunt.
>>24809101My senior year in High School was after covid and all the female English teachers petitioned to change the curriculum to modern post-2008 YA novels and short stories. I ended up getting a D one of my semesters because my teacher was evil and had to do an online makeup class where I ended up learning about and reading bits of Hamlet and Beowulf, part of the original curriculum that was replaced.
I agree. (((Women))) and (((Men))) hate Society.
I graduated high school recently, and I had to read the Odyssey TWICE (as in, for two different classes). My anecdotal evidence > your anecdotal evidence
>>24809164The funniest thing about that quote is that there is no "long haul to liberation" in the Odyssey. Odysseus didn't have to return to Ithaca, he could have been immortal on Calypso's island. The whole point is that Odysseus places his family and his home over his own life.
>>24809243>trust me its like this single example of someone trollingno, you just wanted to whine about something
>>24809101>bot spamming ancient repost as engagement baitdead internet
>>24809108This. Tge problem is that quitely reading unless its titillating murder porn is considered basically a criminal act by women because it has NEGATIVE SOCIALIZATION VALUE. Have you ever been say out reading peacefully and the beach or quitely enjoying a moment reading at home? You're giving off a negatove socialization aura women can detect which makes them literally hostile.
>>24809101Odyssey is a book written by a woman about womanhood.
>>24809101>2020Well, they sowed the wind. Now they are reaping the whirlwind and it’s not pretty
>>24809293This is a literature board how is your spelling and grammar this fucked up.
>>24809104This is what 19th century men thought was the cure to every woman's mania
>>24809400It still is
>>24809101>(((levine)))I wonder what she has against the greeks and what she gains from obfuscating their historyhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q3NVe8m_kB8
>>24809158Because 10 years ago, the literal who was advocating to cut boys dicks off and sterilise little girls on Tumblr, and now the ideas from that literal who are being campaigned for by elected politicans and could become codified law
>>24809379A question ends with a question mark, not a full stop.
>>24809502It was not a question because I already knew why.
>>24809101Why is she proud? What a whore
>>24809158She's a professor or teacher somewhere obviously you dumb cunt, twitter following is not the only or at all an important metric.
>>24809101>Levine
>>24809101I thought they were against book banning
>>24809101>>24809158You’re right that some fucking context should be given for a twitter screenshot from 2020. This is what remains of a WSJ article concerning Heather.
>>24809101I think it's insecurity.>Cunts can't produce anything of worth>See the achievements of men>Cunts get jealous>Tear that down>Rest content in the shitpile, on the lookout for other achievements by men that they, femalia, can't achieve.It's the same pattern that happened with gaming and nerd interests around 2010s. Women, and female coded men like trannies, homos, and pedos, didn't like men enjoying gaming things, discussing gaming thing, creating gaming things (coders were all men); so, lacking brain power to create their own games, they invaded the industry and made it bend the knee to their cunt and gash and bussy agenda. The same with literature. If you can't create something on pair of Ulysses, or Lolita in the worst case, then remove them and replace them with 10th rate feminist slop and sell the notion that you liked previous literature because of patriarchal male gaze brainwashing.At the root of contemporary feminism, now ubiquitous in all male spheres, is jealousy at make achievements and being unable to compete with said male achievements even when given equal rights. Women are children. They should stay in the kitchen (and they suck even there; see the amount of praised male cooks).
>>24809112The boss yells at the man The man yells at the wifeThe wife yells at the children The children yells at the dog The dog yells at the catThe cat yells at the mouse One must imagine the mouse happy
>>24809630That is the core nature of women and debased men. The only escape is putting true men in charge, and that won't happen by vote or just oblivously moving through time. If Indians and Africans (and all non whites, as they are feminine in nature as well) become the rulers of Earth, then there will never be a beatific light, the candle is blown.
>>24809101Lol, which one of you faggots read Odyssey at 15? Nobody and don't lie - in fact most of you have not read it even as adults, as majority of retards on this board are polniggers and vtards who want to feel intellectual but dont read at all. And why should high schoolers read Odyssey? Do you want them to develop hatred towards reading? Your average highschooler does not read books at all and you want to force Odyssey onto him, a book that is far above his reading comprehension? And that's not commenting on the fact that to most highschoolers Odyssey is 'boring ass That's how you teach him that reading is boring - which the contemporary publishing industry has already achieved.
The arts, at least anything below 40 years of age, is just women talking to women about women and about how oppressed they are by men in publishing or whatever (where no men are present).Now that in itself is weird but whatever. It is a pity however because men just get drawn to neofacist maga low iq white trash shit instead when they, indeed, should be reading the Odyssey.
>>24809860>Lol, which one of you faggots read Odyssey at 15?I think they do in Greece. Kinda how in English schools you'd read Shakespeare.
>>24809860> you want to force Odyssey onto him, a book that is far above his reading comprehensionIt used to be within their comprehension and a required part of the curriculum. How do you think one increases reading comprehension? By giving people dumber material and infantilizing them?
>>24809101Rape.Rape is the solution.
Imagine how great the world could be if people didn't choose to make it awful because of their insecurities
>>24809936Yeah broski, best way to get into running as coach potato is to try to run marathon. You know shit about fuck. And let's not act like milennials read odyssey in high school LMAO. No majority of any generation has read Odyssey in high school
>>24809860I read both the Odyssey and the Iliad between 12-13. I'm sorry you're a soulless golem.
>>24809630>It's the same pattern that happened with gaming and nerd interests around 2010s.Bro, it's the same pattern that happened with all of mankind before the ice age. How do you think we managed to spend four hundred thousand years anatomically identical to now without developing civilization? Tribecunts tore down anyone who stuck out.
>>24809965This. Pretty much no one has a good reason to be evil it's all silly shit in the mind and yet it rules everything. Trillions of lives ruined or destroyed.
>>24809316trump’s approval rating is ass lmao. he’s getting rekt in the midterms
>>24809991I see why bloom was so depressed in his later years. Soulless bugmen like you always have to reduce everything to utility
>>24809158>if it didn't receive enough likes, it's not a real problemGet me off this ride
>>24810931Poor baby bear :(
what could possibly be their problem with odyssey?
>>24809860>>24809991All of my teachers were people like you. From personal experience, I know that the students who love literature will love Homer no matter what age they are exposed to him. Condescending to readers at their most impressionable is a surefire way to make them hate reading. After years of being assigned simplistic and moralistic drivel by people like you in Middle School, I started to feel as if all of my childhood favorite books - Journey to the Center of the Earth, White Fang, The Time Machine - were not serious literature because they didn't explore family trauma or the immigrant experience or have a simple moral message. It was not until I read Homer and Shakespeare in high school that my love of literature for itself was reflected in the reading that I was assigned. People like you are determined to kill the few remaining readers.
>>24811040Same with me. I read a lot as a kid but hated what we read in school apart from Shakespeare. Then got into literature in my late teens reading Homer of my own volition and have read daily since. Let these kids read the good stuff and stop infantilising them
>>24809101I didn't really like the Odyssey. Iliad, Aeneid and Metamorphoses were all better.
I think some people believe they know better and that their role is to make the future better. It is an activist belief.It was common among Millenials to be educated for this. Like " be a rebel, make a better future, look at John Lennon and Che Guevara".>>24810993They think it is sexist that Ulysses had sex with that goddess while his wife didn't have sex with anyone.
>>24811040>the students who love literature will love Homer no matter what age they are exposed to himNot true.Source: I hated all the books they forced us to read. None of us liked them at all, the kids who wanted good grades regurgitated the spiel at the exam and promptly forgot all of it, the rest of us didn't even bother regurgitating it. 20 years later I rediscovered those books on my own and finally liked them.I kept reading as a kid DESPITE school's best efforts to make it a worthless, annoying experience, because I was reading (at the time) shit like Stephen King and the Animorphs, which is actually interesting to kids. Afterwards I started craving something more ON MY OWN.
>>24811040I was mostly the same way, except I had a few good teachers. a middle school english teacher really put his passion into the class and turned me on to what would be considered "easy canon" like steinbeck or hemingway, made me love well constructed characters and never made reading feel like willingly imbibing propaganda (as most of my other teachers did constantly talking about the lessons the author wanted us to take away from the work). latin teacher taught me a years worth of english class grammar each month and I had him all throughout high school, i remember creating more modern translations of some of catullus's poems as an optional assignment with no effect on my grade, and writing "book reports" on the aeneid in latin. unfortunately (or maybe fortunately, i cant stand teaching) it wasnt enough to get me to study it in college.
>NOOOOO YOU MUST READ STORIES FROM OLD WHITE MEN TO BE LITERATE this board is so dumb lol
>>24811040>were not serious literature because they didn't explore family trauma or the immigrant experience or have a simple moral message.I made a thread on here seething at this anti-white diaspora literature. But it's not just the diasporafags, so much of what gets published is just entitled whining. That South Park joke mocking Prince Andrew's memoir as "WAAAAGHH" is pretty accurate to a lot of it. It reminds me of how these women behave in real life. They think whining about having it hard makes you important, because important and successful people are always busy and stressed out, and I'm important, so I must express being stressed out! You go into a social situation with them and they expect you to just care about their non-problems. Even if it's some DINK earning six figures with a husband earning six figures. Then you read the old memoirs of actual famous philosophers and writers, and many only did 3-5 hours of reading and writing a day, and lived like comfy NEETs the rest of the time. And there's just minimal complaints and a comfy life, and they know they have a comfy life, and appreciated that they had a comfy life. >>24811122Then write something interesting that's not so self absorbed. It's not hard, don't make it ME ME ME. It's not like those old white man books are hyperfocused on their racial and ethnic identity like the modern slop that gets churned out.
>>24809860What? The Odyssey used to be a part of the curriculum in many schools, hence the tweet in OP in the first place. In fact, I did read it in high school. Why does it matter if it makes the average (read: illiterate) high schooler hate reading? That's hardly my problem. I got something out of it.
>>24810993I honestly don't get it either. Odysseus is, dare I say, even "progressive" with the way he conducts himself during his travels, like with the Phaeacian princess and her maids
>>24811116you had bad teachers. im >>24811121 and I also wasnt a fan of shakespeare until later, but who would be when youre just given a story about drama queens on an island written in archaic english and told to write a 5 page essay on what the author thought about rage and gender?>>24811122if they wanted to replace them with good authors, i wouldnt be as worried for the next generation. if youre going to remove shakespeare and homer from the curriculum, you should replace them with simple, regular verse so students can get used to regular rhythms in speech and you should teach it that way. instead theyll abandon verse or throw students into free verse without given them a grounding in the kinds of poetic devices that would help them appreciate it as more than "aesthetic sentences"
>>24811040Modern schooling is horrible. I didn't read Shakespeare until I was 26. And I have a bachelors
I think Shakespeare/Homer are OK to be taught.What isn't OK is Naturalism. By Naturalism, I don't mean people who like to be naked, they are called naturists, but extremely boring novels by soulless authors who write like they are being paid to bore you and to use as many words as possible. Reading naturalist literature made me a worse reader since it taught me to skip paragraphs to try to make the torture end faster.
>>24809136You're so close
>>24809860You're seriously arguing a story is bad and will put people off reading despite 3000 years of evidence to the contrary. Did we recently evolve into a new species disconnected from the common human experience recently?
>>24811379>Did we recently evolve into a new species disconnected from the common human experience recently?Have you spent anytime around zoom zooms and ipad babies?
>>24809860Italian here. I did. I loved it. The Odyssey, the Iliad and of course The Divine Comedy were core in our literature curriculum. Latin or Latin and Greek are also standard, and we did translations of ancient texts. I don't know if any of this has changed over the years, I'd say probably.We had Shakespeare for English lit and I shared my love for Wordsworth with a tomboy classmate who had a great smile and incredible titties and could recite all of Julius Cesar by heart.Classic literature is great. I can't imagine reading whatever modern slop instead.
All this autistic screeching about DA JOOZ itt is why she gets to be in a position where she can "ban" Odyssey while you are stuck here, you know.
>>24811476Revolution and free HRT for all in two weeks comrade.
>>24809101>What a tragedy it was to let holes vote.Indeed, but we were warned
>>24811122who are you quoting?
>>24809104Chad only
Female educators have no interest in actual education. The only thing they're interested in is having power over people. They realized they were too dumb to make it in the corporate world, or in politics, but they can have complete, unquestionable power and control over a group of children who are too young to realize when they're being emotionally manipulated by a vindinctive bitch. So you wind up with all these angry, crazy women who enjoy drilling obedience into kids who they actually hate. Banning books like The Odyssey is just a natural extension of their overbearing desire to be supreme ruler of the universe. It's not about The Odyssey, it's not about education, it's about being the boss. Things must change because the boss decides what stays and what goes. It makes them feel important. You see it in management all the time. We're changing the way we do things because this thing that's been working for 20 years needs to change for no reason. Now its broken, but lets stick with it because I'm the boss and this change I made is good.
>>24809630>Men create hobby>Women join>Women ruin hobby>Men leave and create new hobbyThe circle of life. They have even named this phenomenon. It's called "Male flight."
>>24812691>"Male flightIts a shame that its called that. Its really "Male disinterest".
>>24811122as opposed to the great literature from ancient sub-saharan africa, like...?
>>24811122>ancient greece>white
>>24809630>Women, and female coded men like trannies, homosLeave the homos out of this
>>24812251Me. I say that.
>>24812748whiter than the guys who fucked your whore mother, mutt
>>24812670This is only their secondary goal. As someone who's worked in education, I know from experience that 99% of millennial female teachers enter education because they were nerds in high school and want a second shot at being the cool kid. They spend all their time in little internet bubbles on twitter, reddit and tumblr where they absorb what they believe to be cool and hip (ice breakers where you name your pronouns, steven universe tenderqueer shit, talking about trigger warnings and safe spaces, deconstructing the white male canon etc.) and then regurgitate it in the classroom because they think the kids will find them cool and relatable and not cringe and outdatedFrom a holistic view, it looks like some coordinated propaganda campaign, but from a sociological perspective it's much simpler. The kind of woman who wants to spend time around pubescent children is usually in a state of emotional and mental arrested development and wants to live the ideal high school experience they were denied because of that same arrested development. There are male equivalents as well of course. Just check out the r/teachers subreddit and you can be certain that almost all of the posters complaining about their students making fun of them formulate their lesson plans around shit they read on tumblr and reddit in a way to make them seem cool and with it
>>24812828This is so tiring, I had a teacher like this in high school and every lesson with her was pure torture of le quirky reddit chungus shit being beamed into your head with no possibility of escape. I can't imagine what it will be like for the next generation when older teachers die out and every teacher is like this.
>>24812828>Just check out the r/teachers subredditYou people need to get off the internet. Holy fucking shit. Teachers become teachers because it's all you can when you get a literature degree or something equally worthless. Most people are not terminally on fucking reddit like you, fucking sperg. Then yes there's the one redditor who pushes these things and they get approved simply because 90% of other teachers don't give a fuck. The problem as always is the indolence of the majority
>>24812888>Teachers become teachers because it's all you can when you get a literature degree or something equally worthless.you can't actually teach with a literature degree unless it's some catholic private school. degrees in education are a separate curriculum for the exact kind of person described above. you sound real mad, did that post touch a nerve?
>>24809498No one is cutting boys dicks off or making girls permanently sterile you tard. The amount of trannies who get any major surgeries in their teens are infinitesimaly small
>>24812976>The amount of trannies who get any major surgeries in their teens are infinitesimaly smallEven if it was 1 it would be unacceptable
>>24812976what >>24813001saidseethe you disingenuous faggot retard.
>>24812766this. there are 3 kinds of homos: men who have "moved beyond" women and would rather approxamate normal sex with someone they have a genuine connection with, ones who are vain hedonists obsessed with aesthetics, and ones who want to become womanly but aren't quite trannies. the first two can create good art (although the first ones arent detectable as homos from their works, the second kind are) and the third can only immitate or destroy. with homosexuality being broadly accepted in western society now, only the third kind are vocal about being homos and enforcing rainbow flags everywhere (and no matter what, it's never enough) while the other two kinds stopped being pushy when they got what they wanted.
>>24813562Your category #3 is actually the same as trannies, they're just the thin end of the spectrum. It's not meaningful to remove other trannies from this category of homo.That aside, you're correct.
>>24809101"""Levine"""" The funniest part is that all the Turd Wave Feminist find "The Odyssey" empowering b/c it has "badass bitches and witches" that "cuck men" to do their bidding, etc....etc....They practically worship Medea for being a Stronk Kween and killing them babies. Go Grrrrl!!! Truly schizo behavior.
its a shit test she wants you to impregante her women need to be domesticated by men it's on men if we let them go wild
>>24813562So which one are you?
>>24809176You should give a fuck since the vast majority of people you interact with on a daily basis were educated in a public school, retard
>>24809267fuck off zoomer faggot
>>24812976>No one is cutting boys dicks off or making girls permanently sterile you tardGreat! So you should have no objection to it being made illegal then, since it's not happening.
>>24812792You're calling your own quote dumb?
>>24809860>which one of you faggots read Odyssey at 15?If you read it, it was likely a modern translation and not original greek. Nobody here REALLY read it.
