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I hate them so much.
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Yeah, fuck Anglos.
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I thought gray was English not American hub
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fuck Brits but grey is the way
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>>24811016
e is more feminine than a and grey is a feminine form of black so I agree
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I'm ESL and I use both while and whilst with different meanings. Am I retarded?
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>>24811034
>I'm ESL and I use both while and whilst with different meanings. Am I retarded?
There's a subtle tense difference most native English speakers won't recognise.
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>>24810981
British English sounds so much better than muttspeak it's unreal. I hate American pronunciation.
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>>24810981
>slight differences acquired from spending 4.25 centuries on a different continent
ARGH!!!!!
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>>24810981
I live in a northern US city and the spellings 'theater' and 'theatre' are equally common, the latter particularly on older buildings
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>>24810986
You're brown

>>24811058
Don't worry we hate you too
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I seriously wish I could leave america. This country is fucking horrible. As if the very soil is stained with some form of diablerie. Its people are even worse.
Just get me the hell out of here.
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>>24810981
>dreamt/dreamed
>learnt/learned
Do Americans really say "dreamed" in place of dreamt?
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>>24810981
Americans ruined English
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The differences are a very small part of the English language, and we can understand each other perfectly well. Many words, phrases and concepts that we think of as well-established, Old World features of English are also American in origin, only they came back over the Atlantic in the 17th, 18th or 19th centuries and so seem far less foreign to us in England today. How many people would refuse to teach a child 'Mary Had a Little Lamb' because its author was American? Not many.

The notion of spreading the English language beyond Britain was a major factor in selling the idea of emigration to the New World. Ennobling the English tongue by giving it greater reach was seen as a worthy goal. Writers in the mid-18th century, in both America and England, predicted the bright future that the language would enjoy as the US grew in size, stature and population. Most white Americans are of at least partial English ancestry, so it's no less 'their language' than someone born in Kent, Norfolk or Northumberland.

The one and only thing about American English that I loathe is that braindead phrase, 'I could care less'. That one makes me want to smash someone's head against a brick wall until it is nothing but a grey smear speckled with flecks of pulverised cranium.
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>>24810981
maintaining the learnt/learned, blesst/blessed distinction is a good thing
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>>24811058
Many Americans have pleasing accents that are easily understood.
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>>24811462
In Pennsylvania at least I mostly hear and say "dreamt" but "learned" instead of "learnt."
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>>24811584
this post turnt me on
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>>24810981
Americans are right about everything, except "pajamas". That's just retarded.
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>>24811622
I’m going to plough your arse
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>>24811517
I couldn't care less.
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>>24811630
Aluminum is a war crime.
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>>24811462
Yes. How do the English sing "I dreamed a dream"?
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>>24811462
Some American accents do, but a lot pronounce it the same way it's spelled in Britain. I think it's spelled that way just to make it into a regular verb instead of an irregular one.
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>>24811762
*spelt
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I'm not gonna lie, I'm glad Britain is dying.
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It's common for people to say that America "changed" the language, but actually Britain changed far more than America did in terms of English pronunciation and spelling. Modern British accents don't sound anything like the ones British people had 300 years ago, if you wanted to hear something similar you'd be better off looking in North Carolina than England.
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>>24811784
So this is the power of mutt retardation. Whoa.
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>>24811460
pray to Augustus Trump and maybe it will happen
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>>24810981
Just mix and match as desired. Tire, favorite, grey, moustache. Problem solved.
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>>24811784
You can enjoy speaking English and love America's contribution to Anglophone literature without making things up, you know.
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>>24812003
He does make a valid point though.
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>>24812012
based retard
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>>24812066
Mad, anon?
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>>24812081
Never read it, sorry
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>>24812003
It's true though. British English is the one that has rapidly changed over the years, American English is in places almost totally unchanged from how it was spoken before the Revolution.
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>>24811418
England is 100% Indian now anon.
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>>24812116
>American English is in places almost totally unchanged from how it was spoken before the Revolution
LOL
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>>24811784
>Modern British accents don't sound anything like the ones British people had 300 years ago, if you wanted to hear something similar you'd be better off looking in North Carolina than England.

People say this a lot but it doesn't make any sense. There were numerous British accents then and there are numerous ones now. Are you saying every single British accent changed while somehow this one regional accent in the US didn't?
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>>24812128
American English had begun to diverge by the time of the Revolution, as it was in the early/mid 1700s that people first began commenting on differences of accent between Americans and the English. Americans were complimented on the fact that they spoke 'without idiom'; in other words, that they had a very forthright way of speaking, presumably because the colonies were populated by men and women from across England, where dialects were almost as numerous as people, as well as Scotland, Ireland, the Netherlands and Germany. This 'levelling off' would explain why American English has fewer vowel sounds and a characteristic drawl.

It's understandable that people would insist that they speak an older or purer form of the language though, as it gives greater credence to notions of ownership or authority. The Romans teased the native Britons for attempting to speak in archaic, literary forms of Latin that sounded unnatural. Until a decade ago, when internet access exploded across India, it was a common trope for Indians to speak in a Victorian form of English, deferential and with a handful of odd words and phrases that'd lingered from the Georgian age (e.g. 'Britishers')
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>>24812128
Relatively speaking, the more drastic changes happened in Britain as compared to the United States. That's a fact.

The reasons for why this happened however are harder to pin down. I happen to believe that a lot of the change happened because the UK had to make themselves somehow "different" from the dominant Americans, sort of like how Canadians always feel the need to do that. There was a psychological and sociocultural "differentiation" effect that took place, especially as radio and television made us more connected and they heard how we speak more frequently. British people changing how they pronounced things was one part of this differentiation technique. This effect only became even more pronounced over time (no pun intended) as the United States became more influential. As they say, "a city on a hill cannot be hid." It is the way it is, after all.
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>>24812155
impressive schizobabble off the cuff tbf
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american > british
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>>24812415
?
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>>24810981
>Yeah, let me change the spellings of arbitrary words and then change our measurement system to some nonsensical shit like feet and yards just to be different.
I'm not like the other girls energy.
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Why do Americans get so mad about this? I've made posts that have nothing to do with language and some American will single out a word or phrase with hatred.
We have different spelling, words and idioms, that are born out of our own communication, our own culture, it's not a war for supremacy.
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>>24812415
yes they do tend to have a bigger weight and waistline
although both populations are definitely getting fatter by the day
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>>24810981
Scene: OLI is sitting on the bathroom floor in the foetal position, rocking back and forth and mumbling to himself.

[enter EMI]
EMI: Oli! What's wrong? Please!—you need to speak to me!
OLI: Emily…
It's those vile Americans
and their wanton use of the letter ‘zed’.
It nauseates me as much as it makes me sick.
EMI: Oh, right… of course…
Yes, it's um… it's terrible, isn't it…
OLI: A feverish race of circus performers
paroled unto the world on the sick whim of some incorrigible Tartarian gaoler, and nothing besides…—utterly anathema to we in this civilised country.—Precisely the form of chthonic brute who'd have the audacity to fancy himself improving his God-compiled logos with a de-Francofying quill wedged between the clove in his hoof, while sat beside a hatless so-called ‘gentlemen’ dictating him republican backwash without so much as a nod of acknowledgement from either of them towards the irony of the whole thing. And don't even get me started on what these clowns have done to the Word…
It's like reading graffiti, Emily!
EMI: Oli—if you don't like it, don't read it.
This country has a proud literary
tradition with a wealth of talented
authors you could be reading instead—like
Banjo Patterson, or that other bloke
who wrote Robbery Under Arms…
Let's be honest, brother: you aren't exactly
missing out on anything important
by forgoing all of American
literature wholesale. Very much unlike
Australia’s rich vein of profound works.
OLI: Apart from Melville…
EMI: Well obviously
apart from Melville!—but the rest, I mean…
OLI: Poe’s not bad either, now you mention it…
EMI: Oh? You like Poe? I never would've picked
you for someone who likes Poe, Oliver…
OLI: O, absolutely!
One’d have to be a rather tremendous
wanker to bethink oneself above reading
for the sheer morbid enjoyment of it—
and where better to get that than with Poe?
He is the grandfather of Pulp, after all.
EMI: Can't argue with that! Who doesn't love Pulp?
OLI: And of course there is no Poe without Hawthorne…
EMI: Oh yes,—one cannot overstate Hawthorne's
importance to the literary canon.
OLI: An unsung juggernaut, truly…
EMI: Truly…
There'd be no Emily Dickinson either…
OLI: O Emily—Emily—Emily!
How could I ever forget the other
Emily? You'd have to be bereft of soul
not to adore Emily Dickinson’s verse!—
just a real miserable fucken prick.
Any cunt who doesn't should honestly
hurry up and kill himself already.
EMI: A little harsh, but yes—I do agree…
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>>24812695
ranjeet detected
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>>24811762
What are you talking about? Dreamed has a long e pronunciation and dreamt has a short e pronunciation.
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>>24812956
la creatura detected
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>>24812980
No, I'm English. That's why I use feet and yards like a normal person.
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>>24812695
>nonsensical
>laughinggirls.exifdata
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>>24813126
"I'm English" means you're from England to us native English speakers. People from England use the metric system. This doesn't past the smell test, Vikram.
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>>24813126
>>24813245
ragebait
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>>24812695
imperial is original measurement system
metric is french bullshit whipped up in the 18th century
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the bonkers UK pronunciation of certain words bothers me much more
lieutenant, for example
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>People from England use the metric system
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>>24810981
The english are faggots that speak english wrong, but queue is better than line because homonyms are evil.
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>>24813410
>The english are faggots
We enjoy it. We also write great books
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I'm glad bongs are about to be an extinct species on 4chan.
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>>24810981
>Plough/plow
Why can't we do more of this?

>Neighbour/Neighbor
Like here. "Nebor". So much better. I'd even take "Nebour".
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>>24810981
ZUTTING
this is the new trendy word
moooslimes are apoplectic
>kek
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>>24810981
I don't particularly enjoy English as a language but American English is idiotic in the fact that it was purely a nationalist fantasy driven by Noah Webster who complicated basic linguistics purely because he didn't like Brits yet used their language
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>>24814026
Is English your first ? What do you dislike
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>I don't particularly enjoy English as a language
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>>24814026
Complicated how?
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>>24811462
dreameded
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>>24812701
I read the original post as slagging Americans, but perhaps I'm wrong.

In any event, the original chart isn't very good. Grey and gray are both used in British and American English, if in different ratios. Bogeyman is a word in both British and American, Boogeyman is a word used for a slightly different thing. Ageing and dreamt are both in American usage. Ass is a perfectly fine British word, Shakespeare used it to refer to someone's posterior, and Ben Jonson used it in the title of one of his plays, The Devil is an Ass. Ass, or arse, also denotes someone who hates based on minor linguistic differences.
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>>24814293
>I read the original post as slagging Americans
not at all
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>>24811460
Be pro palestine and they'll deport you
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>>24811462
Yes, they do.
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>>24810981
>tire
>theater
>pajamas
>jewelry
>aluminum
>plow
these particularly grate against me
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>>24813263
embarrassing retard
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British: Addictive
American: Addicting

Is the only one that bothers me
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>>24811499
You mean improved

>>24812124
That revelation was quite obvious from the first response I got
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>>24811792
Current British pronunciation is basically an effect of aristocratic hegemony. Don't be daft.
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>>24811462
>learned/learnt
I have a few British friends, one guy is a science teacher, I am possitive he uses lernt/learned interchangeably.
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>>24812695
>>24813293
Not only that but the metric system was enforced through democide, as well. Its amazing how the entire world just up an adopted a system of measurement which was enforced through violence. Truly the only universal language they all seem to speak.
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>>24810981
>eyeoreplane!
no, it's fucking air-plane, we invented the object and the spelling. get it right.
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>>24811058
shove it up your arse
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>>24815729
1. the word was invented before the object
2. englishers invented english, ergo they are always right
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>>24815532
Metric system was adopted because it's far more accurate and easily adaptable to. It works in a decimal system which is very easily translatable to other measuring units, can be approximated without any effort and allows for extreme accuracy due to the presence of btoh micro and macroscopic kayers. Compare that to the retarded imperial bullshit which is a genuine plebian measuring system used by villagers who literally only had their thumbs and feet to measure shit with, couldn't read and did everything based off of how it felt rather than how it should be done
The world moved on from that when the masses became cultured and literate. Everything you have today, from your house to your food to your computer and the web where you're in right now, exist because of standardized measurement systems, not retarded feel-good units kept out of idiotic jingoism
Also funny that anglos be they britbongs or amerisharts bitch about muh "enforcement of violence" when their empires are NOTORIOUS for only existing because of their tendency to execute and enslave locals without a second thought
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>>24810981
I’ve always seen most of the British spellings as more aesthetic for some reason, even though I’m American. Something nice and appealing about them.
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>>24816569
>very adaptable
>had to be forced on the world through violence
something doesn't add up here.
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>>24811025
>grey is a feminine form of black
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>>24810981
Tyre is a city, not an object.
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>>24817365
and tire is what happens when americans walk up the stairs, not what you put on a car
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>>24817286
It wasn't forced on the world through violence retard
It was the opposite, metric system was fought against during major conflicts like the French Revolution or American Revolution
It was adopted during peace time and expanded due to utility, not through warfare
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>>24811025
>e is more feminine than a
nope
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>>24812012
>>24812003
>>24811784
>>24812148
>>24812155

Its a well documented phenomenon that colonies conserve their languages better than the homelands do. USA with English, Quebec with French, Brazil with Portuguese, some parts of latin America with Spanish.

I assume its because being in a faraway land instills the colonists with a greater psychological need to maintain their culture almost to the point of parody while people in the homeland continue to undergo language reforms.
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>>24818107
colonial lag is overestimated
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>>24818107
By 1776, the Thirteen Colonies were already less than half-English. One in six of the white inhabitants were from outside of the British Isles. One in five were from Scottish and Ulster Scots backgrounds.

People first began commenting on differences in accent between England and the American colonies sometime ~1700. Americans were said to have a 'purity of speech' and to 'speak without idiom or tone', and this applied even to the black inhabitants. A levelling-off of disparate accents and dialects would make sense, especially when a Kentishman and a Lowland Scot found themselves neighbours to a family from Devon, and especially when they had to interact with Germans and Huguenots who were only occasional speakers of English.

Ben Franklin's phonetic alphabet from 1768 is all the evidence you need that American accents have changed massively in the last quarter-of-a-millennium, and that rhotic R's alone are not proof of total colonial lag
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how much of this is due to Webster's crippling autism?
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>>24819427
chudster has a lot to answer for
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it happens
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>>24811034
I use both and I'm English
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>>24816569
Metric is good for science, imperial is more human and everyday.
Anyway, what kind of books do you like?
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>>24810986
He said, in English.



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